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(Oriana Fallaci) Author puts herself on front lines against Islam
wash times ^ | 12 19 2002 | Oriana Fallaci

Posted on 12/19/2002 9:58:10 AM PST by dennisw

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:39:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: imhere
Where has all the rage gone...
21 posted on 12/19/2002 12:38:36 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Hank Kerchief
If you don't agree with the left, you have no right to your opinion. Prayers for Ms. Fallaci!
22 posted on 12/19/2002 1:01:47 PM PST by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
If you don't agree with the left, you have no right to your opinion. Prayers for Ms. Fallaci!

The "Religion of peace" strikes again....

23 posted on 12/19/2002 2:01:56 PM PST by Wil H
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To: dennisw
The great Fallaci with the old New York skyline.


24 posted on 12/19/2002 2:53:36 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: swarthyguy
That my friend will happen about 1 1/2 hours before hell freezes over.
25 posted on 12/19/2002 8:56:46 PM PST by Valin
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To: dennisw
"She's a liberal icon who is now transmogrified into a not-too-convincing conservative"

Actually, it isn't much of a transformation. It is for the most part the left that has left her, not the reverse. It is the rest of the left that is stark raving mad on the subject of Islamic facists.

You have to jump through amazingly convoluted intellectual hoops to find it "liberal" to kiss Saddam Hussein's ass, to apologize for murderous religious fanatics, etc. She just doesn't. She has the class snobby, secularist opinions of a well read New York intellectual - of about a generation ago, perhaps, and without sucking up to communism, or anti-Americanism, or more recent multiculturalist claptrap. That is all.

As many a conservative has pointed out, we finally give leftists a war against obscurantist theocratic murderers, and they are against it because to favor it would put them on the same side as America. She just doesn't react that way, not being viscerally anti-American. She hates obscurantist theocratic murderers for all the reasons self-proclaimed liberals ought to hate them, but in practice do not.

Her reaction is certainly principled and praiseworthy, but it says more about others for failing to react the same way, than about anything particular to her, let alone any ideological change. The ideological change is on the commie left. They switch opinions on any subject the moment the US takes a side, to be against it, wherever it is.

What the Fallaci phenomenon shows is merely that such knee jerk anti-Americanism has spread from the outright communists, who have always been that way, to practically the entire modern left. Who no longer have -any- principles besides anti-Americanism.

26 posted on 12/20/2002 9:10:13 PM PST by JasonC
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To: robowombat
No, it has nothing to do with demographics. Her despair has a simple ideological root, not a pseudo-scientific one. She sees the west intellectually disarmed, refusing to defend the value of its own civilization and its achievements. She would not despair over anything so irrelevant as demographics, if people reacted naturally to direct attack by defense and counter-attack, to assaults on freedom by unapologetic defense of freedom as superior, etc.

She points out that in the days of facist Italy when blackshirts were roaming the streets, ready to beat anyone who dared to raise a voice against them, there was still backbiting and ridicule hurled at them. People were brave enough to stand up to them, when they had the whole government and ruthless force to face down. But now, when "the poor little dears" (Muslims) challenge anyone or anything, everyone gets out of their way, some scared of them directly, some even more scared of being called a racist for standing up to them.

To her that is an incomprehensible intellectual and civilizational suicide, a fundamental breakdown of elementary courage. That and that alone drives her to despair - of Europe and of Italy in particular, that is, not of the US. She does not despair for the US, although she does think even our reaction is far weaker than it ought to be. She is right about that. Everything is half-assed because of the level of unthinking opposition put up by the self-hating morons of the left.

27 posted on 12/20/2002 9:19:48 PM PST by JasonC
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To: JasonC
Wouldn't it be fun to see a 1hr debate between Fallaci and the air-head Senator from Washington State??!!
28 posted on 12/21/2002 2:51:43 PM PST by abenaki
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To: dennisw
Bookmarked for later reading!
29 posted on 12/22/2002 9:10:54 AM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: dennisw
She is right, the Muslim religion because of what it is is part of the militant fundamentalist cause. They will defeat us just by infiltrating all our countries and becoming involved in politics and getting voting power, as well as terrorism. We as a culture really should listen to her and get serious about stopping the spread of Islam. I thing G.W. gets the picture.
30 posted on 12/22/2002 3:32:33 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: dennisw
Finally a radical leftist gets it, to bad the rest of them won't listen.
31 posted on 12/22/2002 4:29:10 PM PST by fella
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To: dennisw
"The point is we're at war with radical Islam, but she cannot distinguish between mainstream and radical Islam."

Neither can I. Mainstream Islam is silent. When polled by Pew, 75% of Arabs opposed the War on Terror.

Perhaps there is a moderate "mainstream," but it may well be a minority. The majority's silence on terrorism and opposition to America suggest support for Islamofascism.

32 posted on 12/23/2002 7:09:41 AM PST by Uncle Miltie
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