Posted on 12/18/2002 11:00:51 AM PST by zingzang
The Catholic Bishops made two big mistakes in their handling of the sex scandal hitting the church. One, they didnt get rid of priests who sexually abused children. A new policy of no tolerance may fix that. But the other, more basic, problem, is that too many homosexuals became priests in the liberal climate of the 1960s and 70s. The Vatican may fix that problem, and this is what has some in the media worried. On the CBS Evening News, reporter Byron Pitts said, "While the church tries to close the door on one sex scandal, another is brewing. The Vatican is now drafting a document that could ban homosexuals from the priest hood."
Thats another sex scandal? Since the homosexual lifestyle is frowned upon by church teaching, why would that be controversial? Its only controversial if youre a homosexual or if you try to maintain the fiction that there is no link between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children. This is what Byron Pitts tried to say in his one-sided treatment of this very serious matter.
He presented a retired priest and psychotherapist named Richard Sipe, who estimated that 30 percent of Catholic priests are gay. Thats a high number. But Sipe didnt want them kicked out. In fact, he told Pitts that a ban on homosexuals in the priesthood would be "like a gay bar refusing to serve homosexual patrons. It doesnt make any sense." This has got to be one of the strangest analogies ever offered in defense of homosexuals as priests. His rationale is that since gay bars serve gays, the church should keep its homosexual priests. But the church is not supposed to be an arm of the homosexual movement.
Pitts presented the Reverend Jim Morris of a homosexual Catholic group called "Dignity," who assured the audience that homosexual priests are not prone to abuse kids. As Pitts reported, "Homosexuality and pedophilia, he says, are not related." A homosexual activist was supposed to be an objective source of information.
The expert who was missing from the CBS News report was Dr. Timothy Daily of the Family Research Council, who has written about a definite link between homosexuality and child abuse. He says, "Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. This is because, by definition, male homosexuals are sexually attracted to other males. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners."
Daily notes that the homosexual movement accepts pedophilia. The North American Man-Boy Love Association, NAMBLA, has been a proud member of the so-called "gay rights" movement, and pedophile themes abound in gay literature. Dailey notes that the late "beat" poet Allen Ginsberg was a pedophile, whose poetry contained explicit references to man-boy sex. Ginsberg was a member of NAMBLA. When Ginsberg died in 1997, journalists praised him as a cultural icon. Some mentioned he was a homosexual, but they concealed his perverted sexual preference for boys.
Reed Irvine can be reached at ri@aim.org
I regard the former as confused... the latter as scum in need of a bullet.
Homo priests don't bother me. They are passive clerics and God will judge them.
It's the ones that prey on on kids... pedophiles, that are the danger.
Like Michael Jackson and Paula Poundstone, these people are dimented and sick. And they are incurable!
Sect. XIV. Whosoever shall be guilty of rape, polygamy, or sodomy* with a man or woman, shall be punished; if a man, by castration, a woman, by boring through the cartilage of her nose a hole of one half inch in diameter at the least.
* Paragraph 25. H. 8. C. 6. Buggery is twofold. 1. With mankind, 2. With beasts. Buggery is the Genus, of which Sodomy and Bestiality, are the species. 12. Co. 37. Says, "note that Sodomy is with mankind." But Finch's L. B. 3. c. 24. "Sodomiary is a carnal copulation against nature, to wit, of man or woman in the same sex, or of either of them with beasts." 12. Co. 36. Says, "it appears by the ancient authorities of the law that this was felony." Yet the 25. H. 8. Declares it felony, as if supposed not the be so.... B. Fleta, L. i. c. 37. says, "pecorantes et Sodomitae in terra vivi confodiantur." The Mirror makes it treason. Bestiality can never make any progress; it cannot therefore be injurious to society in any great degree, which is the true measure of criminality in foro civili, and will ever be properly and severely punished, by universal derision. It may, therefore, be omitted. It was anciently punished with death, as it has been latterly. Ll. Aelfrid. 31. and 25. H. 8. c. 6. see Beccaria. Paragraph 31. Montesq.
Peterson, Merrill D. "Crimes and Punishments" Thomas Jefferson: Writings Public Papers (Literary Classics of the United States, Inc. 1984) pp. 355, 356.
Okay, discuss this. I knew a gay guy in college who said his first experience with homosexuality was at the age of 13 in a New Orleans bar. He said he went in with some friends, and within 30 minutes a man old enough to be his father was giving him a BJ at the bar, while another man was kissing him. Do you think the men knew he was 13? Do you think they cared?? I've always about the "chicken hawk" types of gay men, and this example seems to bear that out. Take it a step further, and I think it helps to support the theory that most homosexuals are pedophiles.
Your turn.
Your screenname is being added to the list of FR's anti-catholics.
You've just been added to the FR's anti-therapist/doctor/teacher/daycare/coaches/cops/and scoutmasters lists. I hope you realize the negative affect this will have on your permanent record.
We will be watching you.
True, one example is not an indicator. On the other hand, I have a relative who works for the DOJ prosecuting child porn/sex abuse cases and he has yet to tell me of a pedophile who was not a male and who was not after young boys.
Homosexual or not, as someone stated earlier, pedophiles need a bullet.
Is there such thing as an objective source that disagrees with homosexuals who wouldn't be defined as "antigay"?
90% or more of the priests who in this Catholic scandal were homo priests - and they abused sexually mature teenage boys (not little children). Without homo priests, there would have been no scandal. The Catholic Church priesthood has a very high concentration of homosexual priests, a great many of whom can't keep their hands (and other parts) off of teenage boys.
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