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WHEN CHRISTMAS BECOMES ILLEGAL
DATE: December 13, 2002 | Jerry Falwell

Posted on 12/13/2002 5:19:19 PM PST by repub32

Merry Christmas everyone!

Oops, did I say Christmas? I meant to wish you Happy Holidays or a Cheerful Winter Season. Christmas, you see, contains that dirty little word ... Christ.

If you don't believe me, just ask the veteran first-grade teacher who was informed this week that she could not mention the word "Christmas" in her Sacramento public school classroom.

Imagine that. Christmas banned in a public school classroom. This interdiction is actually quite predictable because the word Christmas and the concept of a holiday bearing the name of Christ contradicts the situational ethics that pervades many public school classrooms. If there is no true right and wrong, there must not be a notion of a Savior or the need of a Savior.

However, such a ban is nothing less than religious persecution. In order to promote "diversity," these types of policies actually target individual for their beliefs. It is systematic discrimination that is unconstitutional and illegal.

Tragically, the ACLU and similar groups have convinced many public school officials that the mere mention of Christ or a biblical reference is barred by law. Nothing could be further from the truth.

In the Harry Potter series, the evil character Voldemort is so feared that his name must never be mentioned. Similarly, real-life religious antagonists today are creating an environment that virtually prohibits the mention of Christ in public school classrooms or in the public square. By twisting the meaning of the Constitution, they have produced an atmosphere of fear regarding Christ and Judeo-Christian teachings.

Across the nation, school and city officials are banning Christian themes. Nativity scenes have been barred in some New York schools. A New Jersey middle school cancelled a field trip to attend a performance of a play based on Charles Dickens' "A Christmas Carol." In Lewistown, Pa., a Christian church was denied tax exemption because it distributes food to needy families (the activity was deemed not to be religious worship). In Cleveland, Tenn., missionaries have been barred from placing religious literature on cars (even though other groups frequently do so). The Ten Commandments - the very foundation of American law - have been banned in many public arenas. (Thank God that Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore is leading the defense of the Commandments by legally defending his erection of a Ten Commandments monument in the rotunda of his courthouse.)

These alarming actions are part of a diabolical scheme by anti-religion devotees to create distinctive and unfair rules for religious Americans. These individual cases will eventually add up to a national climate of overt hostility toward Christianity (and Christians). It's really quite a frightening scenario, but we are literally watching it unfold before our eyes.

We have seen a federal court panel rule that the mention of God in the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional. Atheists are now attempting to seek the ban of congressional chaplains. Barry Lynn of Americans United for Separation of Church and State has admitted that he wants the word God erased from American coins. These people literally want a godless society, a concept that dramatically conflicts with the God-centered nation our Founders created and nurtured.

The agenda is clear. Christians must be prepared to stand ready to fight for their rights. It is apparent that our adversaries who wish to stifle us will not rest until they have silenced every last one of us.


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To: mc5cents
Not quite...

White-people baptist churches are un-PC. African-american baptist churches who support race-baiters like Jackson et.al. are PC.

Also, La Raza speeches in Hispanic catholic churches are quite PC.

MERRY CHRISTMAS
41 posted on 12/15/2002 3:30:07 PM PST by rightwingbob
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To: tubebender
Wife said there may be a time soon when stores can't sell them...

Wrong. I hear it everywhere--including my daughter's public elementary school. I see it on TV. There is a beautiful show on Animal Planet called "Animals of the Nativity" all about the story of Jesus' birth. The songs sung at my daughter's school, btw, include "Away in a Manger", "Silent Night", "Pat-a-Pan", "The First Noel". They do sing Jingle Bells, too. I suppose some would think that cancels out the others...

42 posted on 12/15/2002 7:10:22 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Search4Truth
There are several suspect posters on this thread.
43 posted on 12/15/2002 7:13:53 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I like your logic. When is Kwanza over anyway?
44 posted on 12/15/2002 7:17:57 PM PST by keats5
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To: repub32

Merry Christmas

from democrap.com

45 posted on 12/15/2002 7:22:54 PM PST by Democrap
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To: muawiyah
Interesting info.
46 posted on 12/15/2002 7:34:12 PM PST by gatex
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To: cyncooper
My remark was a cynical tongue in cheek satement reflecting the times.. a couple of days ago there was a thread abut a merchant being booted out for selling Confederate flags.

Our Grand daughter sings in several groups and is the leader of the High School chorus "The Limited" and they must observe the pc bs at school.

47 posted on 12/15/2002 7:36:23 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Ookie Wonderslug
From what I have been told (and I am not nor will I ever be a catholic) a mass is something that is done for the dead. Kind of a way to pay a person out of perdition. So are they still trying to get Jesus out of perdition for paying for all our sins? Oh wait, catholics believe that one must still pay for their own sins in perdition so I guess Jesus didn't pay for our sins anyway.

You live up to your name, "Ookie Wonderslug".

You would do well to leave the snide comments on other people's religions out of your "contributions" here. For one thing, you don't have the remotest shred of a clue concerning what you're yapping about, as the above paragraph clearly proves.

And, by the way, the giving of presents at Christmas comes from the conflation of two Catholic feasts, one being the feast of St. Nicholas (a bishop of a city in present-day Turkey who was imprisoned in the Roman persecutions, and who was famous for his generosity) and the other being the feast of the Epiphany. You've maybe heard of that one, it concerns some wise men offering gifts to the Christ child.

And no, we don't give gifts to trees.

48 posted on 12/15/2002 8:22:53 PM PST by Campion
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To: repub32
Bump.
49 posted on 12/15/2002 9:02:58 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: repub32
WHEN CHRISTMAS BECOMES ILLEGAL


Only criminals will have Christmas!!
50 posted on 12/15/2002 10:02:55 PM PST by mlmr
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To: mc5cents
Only insipid Baptists are PC. If they're fundamentalist Baptists, they are definitely NOT PC.
51 posted on 12/16/2002 7:37:20 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: potlatch
Walmart's has a wonderful selection of Christian christmas cards. I usually buy them the day after Christmas for the next year. Sometimes they're all gone but quite often they aren't. I found some nice ones at the dollar store this past year, too. They were American Greetings cards left over from whenever. They're still out there but you do have to search. Try Christian book stores as well.
52 posted on 12/16/2002 7:42:22 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: vesuvius761
My husband gives me gift certificates at Christmas and I wait until the Christmas merchandise is 75% off and I get some really neat sweaters and things for nearly nothing.
53 posted on 12/16/2002 7:44:16 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: repub32
The gates of hell shall not prevail against the gospel of Christ. Reprobate men can do what they will, but they will fail in the end and will be judged by the Holy God that created them. Dozens of successive roman emperors tried to stamp out Christianity - and not only failed but the Roman empire itself fell to the gospel of Christ (so much for the "slave religion" so-named by the infidel Neitszche!). Not learning from Rome's mistake, China tried to stamp out Christianity by force by scattering Christians all over China - this only served to spread the gospel far and wide through these solitary missionaries and there are now more Christians in China than in America.

I say, go for it, you secular culture marxists of America and ACLU (American Communists Leftist Union)! You will fail - that I guarantee! That Christ guarantees!

54 posted on 12/16/2002 7:51:34 AM PST by exmarine
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To: Marysecretary
You are much more tolerant than the Empress Palpatine, who expects thought and planning to go into gifts for Her Highness.
55 posted on 12/16/2002 7:54:34 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: redhead
Gap doesn't allow it's employees to say Merry Christmas. When I first heard about this STUPID policy I called my local Gap store where I purchased quite a lot of Christmas presents, and asked whether or not what I heard was true and the manager of the store refused to comment. It was utter insanity. I then ended the call by stating that I'd be returning all of the gifts that I purchased at the Gap, and that I did.
56 posted on 12/16/2002 7:58:31 AM PST by MatthewViti
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To: mc5cents
Catholic: Not PC

Baptist: PC. Oh, am I being unsensative? Sorry.

No, you are just painting with entirely too broad of a brush. I believe Jerry Falwell himself is a Southern Baptist, who, I can tell you from personal experience (though I'm not a member), are NOT politically correct. I won't even mention the fact that there is not a problem with homosexual Baptist preachers taking advantage of their charges (though there are probably isolated incidents of it happening to their church as well). My point is, don't become the "pot calling the kettle black", so to speak (and the word is "insensitive").

57 posted on 12/16/2002 8:05:16 AM PST by cmak9
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To: MatthewViti
Good for you! That is exactly the way to stop this nonsense in it's tracks. The anti-Christmas Nazis don't care about free speech or insulting Christianity, but they care about their wallets.

The way I see it, if a store wants to pretend Christmas doesn't exist, that's their right. But such stores should not be surprised if we don't include them in our Christmas shopping plans. All it would take to kill the PC garbage for good is for a bunch of Christians to get together and boycott the Gap until they changed their policy. As much as retailers depend on Christmas sales (they can call it "Holiday Sales" if they want, but how much of the total $$$ spend is coming from people buying Hannukah or Kwanzaa gifts?), that would scare them all into doing the right thing very quickly.
58 posted on 12/16/2002 8:17:44 AM PST by Media Insurgent
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Well, he DOES give me other things, too. But I do like the gift certificates, especially to Kaufmann's. I prefer buying my clothes at the second hand stores but I do like the after-Christmas sales and excuses for me to expand my five-closet wardrobe (smile). Merry Christmas!
59 posted on 12/16/2002 9:21:18 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: exmarine
The gates of hell shall not prevail against the gospel of Christ. Reprobate men can do what they will, but they will fail in the end and will be judged by the Holy God that created them. Dozens of successive roman emperors tried to stamp out Christianity - and not only failed but the Roman empire itself fell to the gospel of Christ (so much for the "slave religion" so-named by the infidel Neitszche!). Not learning from Rome's mistake, China tried to stamp out Christianity by force by scattering Christians all over China - this only served to spread the gospel far and wide through these solitary missionaries and there are now more Christians in China than in America.

     Psa 2:1   Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
     Psa 2:2   The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
     Psa 2:3   Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
     Psa 2:4   He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
     Psa 2:5   Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
     Psa 2:6   Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
     Psa 2:7   I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
     Psa 2:8   Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.   
  Psa 2:9   Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
     Psa 2:10   Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.   
  Psa 2:11   Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
     Psa 2:12   Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish [from] the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that put their trust in him.

These are the words of God spoken through David( Acts 4:25)

Timely

60 posted on 12/16/2002 9:36:33 AM PST by RnMomof7
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