I support Trent Lott, and so should you darnit!

Me ^ | 12.13.02 | Registered

[Registered]

I just sent Chester an email:

"Dear Senator Lott,

If you had a chin, I'd tell you to keep it up. In the mean time, don't do anything rash. Weather this storm!

Thanks for all you have done for us in the past Chester.

Rich"

[Cyber Liberty]

Not racist. Geesh. Just plain stupid. The press conference was a disaster.

Stupid = bad for a leader

Stupid = not too bad for a senator.

Go call somebody else scum. I am through with you for today.

[CyberCowboy777]

You should re-read the post, I did not call you scum.

I was railing against those who has decided that Lott is a racist, should resign as Majority Leader on moral grounds, but should stay in the Senate to preserve the GOP majority.

I understand your point and apologize if I came on too strong. I do not think you are wrong to want a new ML based on Lott's performance (this episode being the last straw).

I do think that those who believe he is a racist should be calling for his total resignation. To say he is a racist but they want to keep him in the senate just to hold power makes them just as much scum as the democrats that said Clinton was wrong but would not impeach him.

[cynicom]

Reg....

You are preaching to a sanctimonious,self righteous group here on FR, people that for some reason glory in self flagellation. In 04 they will be on here begging for conservative votes, baying that the barbarians are at the gates and sky will fall if we do not vote for all republicans.

[motife]

Lott has to go. His comments were totally unacceptable. He must be dumber than a post. Get a "clean" conservative to be Senate Leader. Lott will NEVER live this down.

[cynicom]

motife....

Firstly, Lott should have never been majority leader. Never. Secondly, when he waltzed around with the dems, the republican senators did nothing, I sometimes believe that the RINO senators were indeed perfectly happy to have a leader that their friends in the dem party could bend over at will. The mystery to me is how and why the man was ever elected to the post.

[Cyber Liberty]

I stand corrected, and pretty much on your side. Except I think Lott should stay in the Senate, fool that he can be.

[CounterCounterCulture]

I support Trent Lott...stepping down from the leadership position.

[Note: This is my first Lott post-gaffe comment, so here goes...]

Trent Lott right now is a liability, like a man wearing a steak medallion in a forest full of wolves, and this is not the wolves' fault. In my opinion, he has shown over the years as to being a rather poor leader for the Republican Party and this controversial statement he has made only cements his inability to lead. As Rush says, "words mean things." It was stupid, and not only did he say it this month, he said it two decades ago.

He should NOT step down because the hypocritical left demands it. He should step down because his time is over and his usefulness has long gone. Now he only useful to the left.

But it's not the loony left, who hate any and all Republicans, that we have a problem with now. What hurts us is this controversy does not help us sign up new party members, whether from the squishy middle, still trying to understand politics, to the next generation of voters. This controversy will also hurt us in fundraising. These are two critical areas we face in electing Republicans, bodies (voters) and money (to counter the leftist spin machine).

Lott must step out of that leadership position to help our long-term future. Sadly, though, he must stay in the Senate for our short-term future.

[nanny]

Not those kind of tigers. I don't like moron tigers. All I'm asking for is some intelligence. In the old days you could just blurt out anything you wanted. That don't fly today. And these guys still think they can just keep saying whatever they want just like in 'the good old day'.

What good old days would that be?

[fatima]

Lott should stay and move into low housing.Clinton made pretend he did.Gosh.

[nanny]

Lost in all the furor is the strong possibility that he was right! But of course, we can't have him speaking politically incorrect truth, can we?

Do you know uttering a word that can be perceived racist is the worse, absolute worst thing anyone can do in this country.?

When I read some of these posts, I truly wonder.

Can anyone say smokescreen? Misdirection?

Folks, we have a lot of problems in this country and the bogey man of racism that everyone sees lurking behind every word, is simply not one of the worst. It doesn't even make the top 20. Believe me the people coming after us - the people already here - the people plotting for our downfall will not care of some uses the 'enwurd' or if somehow they made a gaffe.

This country is getting carried away by this tempest in a teapot and not focusing on the things that are literally destroying this country.

I just don't get it - I don't.

[GATOR NAVY]

I DON'T WANT HIM AS LEADER EITHER, BUT I DON'T WANT THE DEMS TO WIN THIS FLIMSY ORCHESTRATED ATTEMPT TO REMOVE HIM NOW!

Me too

[cindy lou]

How many generations will it take to pass before white Mississippians will not be considered racist just because they are white Mississippians?

[puroresu]

This is the third or fourth time this has been explained to you.

Bob Jones University was singled out for punishment by the IRS in the same way that fundamentalist churches are singled out at election time. Every year, the IRS threatens conservative churches with loss of their tax exemption if they lift a single finger in favor of a Republican candidate. Meanwhile, black churches are allowed to host 'rat campaign rallies right there in the pulpit.

In the case of BJU, they ran afoul of an IRS decree stripping chruches or church schools of their tax exemption if they practice racial discrimination. That rule is constitutionally questionable in my opinion, since it basically allows the government to grant or withhold privileges to churches, based on whether or not the government approves of their beliefs. Carried to its logical conclusion, this principle would mean Catholics can lose their tax exemption unless they ordain women, Baptists can lose theirs if they don't perform gay marriages (should such marriages become law) , etc., should the government decide it wants to go that route. That's not my idea of what the First Amendment is about.

However, right or wrong, the rule about racial discrimination is not fairly enforced. The Black Muslims ban other races outright, but are allowed to keep their tax exempt status. BJU, on the other hand, was a religious school that admitted blacks, but banned interracial marriage and dating as a violation of God's law, as they saw it. The IRS, while having no problem with Black Muslims banning whites, Asians, and Jews, and declaring whites to be of satanic origin, ordered BJU to change their teachings or lose their tax exemption.

Many conservatives at the time, including the Reagan administration and Justice Rehnquist, sided with BJU as a matter of religious liberty.

Lott was 100% correct when he said that racial discrimination does not always violate public policy. If it did, there could be no black fraternities, no tax exemption for Black Muslims, no United Negro College Fund, and so on. Howard University would not be allowed to remain "historically black", as the liberals demand, if racial discrimination always violated public policy. Howard would instead be ordered to reduce black enrollment to 13%, to match the population quota.

Anyway, I'm tired of explaining this to you. It's obvious you aren't interested in facts and are knowingly posting this over and over to try and create an ugly smear, when there is none.

[oldfart]

My wife and I were discussing 'things' the other evening. When I mentioned an article I had read about how violently racist some blacks were, she brought up another point.
Just as the rabbits, which were introduced for sport by the English, have taken over much of Australia, the blacks, who were not native to America, are taking over here too.
That might indicate that while we have been treating this as a social problem, it is in fact, a biological problem of our own making. The theory is further strenthened by the way we whites have almost annihilated (sp?) the native indian population.
Most large cities and all prisons have black and latino gangs which prey primarily upon whites but have little love for each other either. If my wife's theory is correct, the two will co-operate to either wipe out or subjugate the whites, then turn on each other. This is probably far enough in the future that none of us pecking at our keyboards now will live to see it, but our kids and grandkids may very well have to deal with it.
Until relatively recently, I had considered myself pretty open-minded regarding race relations. I still find that I can deal with people of another race or ethnic group as an equal IF they reciprocate. Too many of them (especially young blacks) seem to have a chip on their shoulders these days. I have no patience with them and they assume my attitude is "racist" and the situation only gets worse from there.
Many on this forum have mentioned how it is so difficult to tell the good cops from the bad when they all dress alike and stick up for each other under all sorts of condidtions, good and bad. The natural consequence of this is a general distrust of all cops- it's a defenseive measure on our part. Unless we make a special effort or see a special effort on the other side, we will soon (for those of us who haven't already) maintain a general mistrust, degenerating into dislike and then hate, of all blacks, latinos, jews, etc. At that point, America will be ready to be conquered by any consortium of two or three Dogpatch-style countries that can field an army of determined men.
I'm kinda glad I won't be here then.

[nanny]

Oh, I do not look at blacks, latinos, or anyone as a problem. The government is. They are just using these people to achieve their goals. The Democrats, and some Republicans, use the blacks. It seems the Republicans hav decided they will import themselve some people to use. The last thing - the very last thing any of them want is for the races to come together. We might talk and come to the realization they, the politicians, ARE THE PROBLEM.

The hypocritcal thing about this RACIST smokescreen is the fact none of them care a whit about anything but themselves and their own little or lot of power they do not want to lose.

My problem with the illegals - is the fact they are illegal. The fact so many have come and we are having to support them. I do not make it personal. I have no hatred for any of them as people - just at our government for allowing it to happen. I do get angry at the ones who steal and break our laws with no shame. But I feel that way for anyone.

I am not going to loose site of what the problem really is here and it is the government and their manipulation of the people, 'all the people, all the time.'.

[WOSG]

Second that agreement.

[Dante3]

I wondered why this uproar about Lott when Clinton (about Fulbright), Reagan (about Storm) and Byrd, a former member of the KKK, never attracted this kind of attention. Is it to block the court nominees?

[WOSG]

"You cannot say he was wrong in his statements and must resign as ML and then turn around and say we must keep him in the senate to protect our majority. That is bogus and smacks of agenda, if not hypocrisy. Either he is evil and must be removed or he was not clear and it should be forgotten. You cannot have it both ways."

Uh not true IMHO ... Being wrong in your statements does not make you 'evil', or even a reason to resign any office. What is the offense? He misspoke out of an attempt to honor a retiring senator. If someone has a long record of service, you dont throw him overboard.

OTOH, if Lott is politically clumsy, as he has shown himself quite a few times, we should find a better ML or we will end up the minority party.
As for being a senator that is for the people of Mississippi, not us to decide. That is not "having it both ways'. If saying dumb things were reason to be removed from office, there be many fewer folks in Congress and Senate. In my opinion, stand behind him now, but make a note of his foot-in-mouth disease.