***REV. PETERSON TO SENATOR LOTT: “DON’T GIVE IN TO RACIST DEMOCRATS!***

I am really disappointed in Bush's comments. I thought he was above all this nonsense. I think he works too hard at appeasing those who will never be appeased, at validating those who have no validity and at apologizing for imaginary offenses claimed by professional offendees.

BOND supports Lott get over it.

Isn't this about reducing the number of Republican senators. Two years ago the Republicans got control, and then along came Jeffers to defect.

Now, Republicans are again in control. The Democrats are seizing this oppurtunity to try to remove Lott, then they have, what, 2 to go.

They will attack one by one til they steal control.

the religion of [peace] strikes again!

The problem is that Americans are taking the bait and making a big deal over what should be the biggest NON issue of the day. Let's face it; in the overall scheme of things, what Lott actually said is irrelevant.

" It isn't against the law to say what Lott said. And as far as the racial sensitivities of the race baiters and race whores, let them go pound sand. As much as I dislike Lott, I'm not about to throw him to the wolves over some dumb comments that have been taken completely out of context."

I couldn't have said it better.

Let Lott run for majority leader.

Lott is like Ted Turner in that he has a history of making stupidly controversial remarks. It's a fault in a top political leader because you have then expended political capital for personal issues, not public policy issues. For Republicans, this is Lott's real sin. Gingrich did it too. So did Daschle. Being elected to leadership positions in the Congress seems to lead people toward making foolish remarks, thinking they can get away with it.

Hopefully, Lott will be defeated in favor of a bolder and more conservative majority leader, not this puny and foolish remark.

Of course, as poorly as he's performed many times in the past on key conservative issues and various blundering statements, we could also do a lot worse than Lott.

For those of us on the Right (as opposed to your rank-and-file RINOs), we should be thinking about whether there's a good reason for conservatives to support him and whether we could be worse off with a different Republican as majority leader.

"And, as we all know, jokes are not supposed to be taken seriously."

What evidence have you ever seen that the Rats have a sense of humor? Or common sense? Or ANY sense for that matter? It is obvious that decency and good judgement and quality of character do not figure into the liberal equation. It's all about "how can we use this for our personal political gain?" Disgraceful and deplorable people. But it is just as bad that we treat them as if their phoney "concerns" were relevant and deserving of being taken seriously.

It is hard for me to express how we feel about this situation.

First, I don't think Sen. Lotts statements were meant to say he agreed with the racist policies of the past. They didn't.. he was simply trying to honor a man who has served our country longer than any Senator in our nations history (and was elected to office all these many years by HIS CONSTITUENTS).

It is the EPITOMY of hyposcrisy for the liberals and groups who alledge they speak for ALL people of color, to crucify Sen. Lott this way.

Where was there outrage when Sen. Byrd said there were "White niggers"? Where was the outrage when Bill Clinton gave a KNOWN Segregist the Medal of Freedom and smothered him with compliments just this past October?

So, I agree with comments that Sen. Lott should not resign because the BLACK Caucus says he must (Which is such a racists name for a group.. imagine a "WHITE CAUCUS").

I agree with both the Rev. Jesse Petersen, and Thomas Sowell on this.

Which leaves me in a quandary....

I would LOVE to see Sen. Lott step down as the leader of the Senate.. I've always stated on this forum that it would behoove the Republicans if he did. (I would much prefer Sen. Nichols from Oklahoma to be the leader, or someone who is of equal stature who we can respect as we do Sen. Nichols. Besides, isn't he right under Sen. Lott in the Leadership ladder right now?). However, He should NOT step down as his states Senator.

We have had a problem with Senator Lott for a long time. It started with his horrendous treatment of the house managers. (Guess you could say what goes around, comes around Sen. Lott). But I regress (can you tell I'm still smoldering regarding that issue, and actually quite a few other things that Sen. Lott did or DID NOT do when he SHOULD HAVE!!).

So, I'm torn with him stepping down because of "this matter".

I think his words were taken out of context. We truly believe that. But now he has put his own power and interests over the good of the President and the Republican Party by NOT stepping down. (I told you we were perplexed by this issue in that we would love to see Lott resign, but not neccesarily over this "particular" issue in that we feel it truly is a NON ISSUE!).

President Bush has been put in a difficult situation because of the hoopalah over this incident. I also think Sen. Lott KNEW in advance that President Bush was going to have to speak harshly regarding the matter.

So there is our delimma. We are torn between wanting Sen. Lott to STEP DOWN, and the timing of it and reasons for it at this time. It would be in the best interest of the Republican party and America if he DID step down. I just don't think this incident should be the "reason" for it. He has never had racist policies,..and his record should speak clearly regarding that.

If for some reason Sen. Lott is FORCED out of his leadership over this issue.. then we must start becoming more active in our outrage if a liberal should mis-speak.

Perhaps it is best if he does step down and quickly. Allowing this whole issue to be set aside. A new beginning (if you will) for the Republicans.

Though it has been our ferverent wish that he do so for a long time... it is the matter at hand that concerns us. He did not mean anything offensive regarding Americans of African descent at all. Where others, liberals, have been quite clear in their racial prejudice or support of people with segregist ties, that was not the case in Sen. Lotts statements.

I'm throwing out food for thought here,.. and btw, the fact that I'm discussing this does NOT make me some kind of traitor to conservativism. That is a ridiculous accussation that I'm seeing tossed at anyone who discusses this matter (and who are not in line with other/some conservatives views).

It would be ONE THING if Sen. Byrd was censored and expelled, or if Bill Clinton had been repudiated by the same liberals calling for Sen. Lotts head. The hypocrisy here is that they didn't speak up then, when the statements by Sen. Byrd and Clinton were OBVIOUSLY racist or praising known racists!!

Again.. just writing out food for thought here for the purpose of debate. I'll be interested to read what others think regarding my "mixed" emotions in this matter.

FRegards, Vets

OK, fine. The Dems just wear less clothing, and they keep the filibuster going.

You can literally hear the relentless and building media driven
drumbeat to drive Trent Lott from office.
It was precisely the lack of same that kept the dough-boy president IN office.
I kept straining to hear it back then, knowing that it would surely come,
eventually. As you know, it never did. Lott helped some of the same hypocrites
now calling for HIS head to drive Richard Nixon from office when THAT media
driven drumbeat swept the country.
Bet he thought that that would inoculate him from the jackals in the press.
Wrong, as usual.
Personally, I wish Lott would tell them all
where to get off, and open up a can of Mississippi whoop-ass.
I also wish Santa Claus really existed. Unfortunately, political
expediancy seems to be the Senator's forte.
I've wanted Lott gone from any leadership position since 1998 when he FAILED to do his constitutional duty.
He has been weak and ineffective.
I have no respect for him, no faith in him, and I want him GONE
from the GOP leadership.....but not like this.

Don't tell anyone! I mean Lott just has to go don't ya know!

yeah right

President Bush has to stand up for his own views and the views of the Republican Party or this will be out in front on every election.

He did that today and Lott just has to take it. Lott was the one making the statement and the President is going to have to set it straight for him. Lott made the mistake - don't make Bush and the GOP pay for it.

No, that's not necessary. His actions of making almost the same statement in the past, leaving the House Managers swinging in the wind during the Clinton impeachment, "sharing power" with Daschle before Jeffords jumped and planning on mailing in the lame duck session following the November election illustrate his incompetence as leader of the Senate Republicans. But, if you think we need more proof, you could contact the DNC.

>>>You asked for conservatives who were condemning Lott. I provided a bunch. And then you say I'm polluting the thread.

I never asked for any such thing. I didn't ask you to list conservatives who were condemning Lott. Most conservatives took some exception to Lott's remarks. I said the following:

The liberal elites are the ones who have raised this issue to the level its at now. Conservatives and Republicans didn't have anything to do with blowing this issue out of proportion and turning it into a federal case. And the majority of condemnation is coming from the leftwing, not the rightwing.

You said the following:

"I'll start compiling a list of folks from the right who thing Lott should resign as Majority Leader, since you're making this claim (and not backing it up).

I made no such claim. If anything, I want you to list the vast numbers of those conservatives and Republicans, that have demended Lott resign his Senate seat. Nothing more, nothing less.

>>>Ah, now you qualify the statement. On the basis of those remarks ALONE. Gee, you're losing, so let's change the nature of the debate. That's four weasel tricks you've tried to pull on this thread.

I'm not losing and you're completely wrong. The weasel tricks have been on your part, not mine. First you tried to make the Clinton scandal and this current flap over Lott's remarks, somehow to be similiar events. They are not. Then you began attacking me for basically calling this, a liberal establishment witchhunt.

As I keep saying, this is all about two things and only two things and if you read the article context you'd understand that. First there are the stupid remarks made by Trent Lott at Strom Thurmonds B-Day gathering. Second, there are the efforts of the liberal establishment to make this minor infraction, into a major racist issue, thus forcing Lott to resign his Senate seat. The fact that you've attempted to turn it into something else, has been by your efforts alone. I told you, I called for Lott to step down from his ML position last year, but you don't listen. You hear only what fits your agenda and nothing else.

>>>And I provided the remarks of TWO strong black conservatives who said Lott should resign as Majority Leader.

Once again, the main issue here has to do with Lott resigning his Senate seat. I've not made a big issue out of anyone calling for Lott to step down as Majority Leader. In fact, I've stated time and again, that if Frist, Santorum, McConnell or Nichols, wants to challenge Lott for the ML position, they should go for it.

>>>There you go again. Putting words in my mouth.

I've not put any words in your month, but that's exactly what you've been doing to me on this thread. You're definitely confused and you need to take out your aggressions on someone else. I won't let you walk all over me, bucko.

And FYI, black Congressman JC Watts, has also defended Trent Lott, on several occasions over the last few days.

Wolf Blitzer said word has come down from the White House that Trent Lott should not resign as Senate Majority Leader and that his apologies are good enough.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/805568/posts?page=6

BUMP

If they strip for c-span, we get them on a morals charge.

"leaving the House Managers swinging in the wind during the Clinton impeachment, "sharing power" with Daschle before Jeffords jumped and planning on mailing in the lame duck session following the November election illustrate his incompetence as leader of the Senate Republicans."

Exactomundo.. those are the reasons we'd love to see him step down from the leadership postion. But not for the statement he made. He was simply trying to say (to make a 100 year old man feel good) "that that man had great idea's, and if we had followed them we'd all be better off for it" (not an exact quote).

Now,... Sen. Lott may or may not have really meant what he said.. for crying out loud, it was for a really old guys birthday. People say all sorts of nice things to the honored person/s. This particular incident is being blown way out of hand.

I just heard where the "Black Caucus" says President Bush didn't go far enough.. because he didn't as Sen. Lott to step down!!

The GALL of these racist pigs!! (and I mean that..)

Someone here just quoted Maxine Waters as telling Black people they shouldn't be destroying their own neighborhoods, but going into the WHITE neighborhoods. (Not an exact quote).. Now THAT is racist.