Is there such a thing as a conservative Unitarian?

[free biscet]

They seem to have left being Protestant and Christian and now embrace pagan rituals and wicca with a gay Leftwing tint. What say you?

[PresbyRev]

The Unitarians and Universalists didn't merge until 1961.

[Little Bill]

These people caused a split that resulted in the Communist Church of Christ, UCC. These people make me ill, it took us thirty years of law suits to secure our property and faith, Brownist swine, bad topic, angst.

[crystalk]

Since I see PR is on here, I will note that like the Presbyterians, they used to be Calvinist Christians.

With the Unitarians, you have to go back to 1821, with the Presbyterians, it is 1921 to 1971 more or less.

I would say maybe 8% of the Unitarians, what are left of them, vote Republican...

With the PCUSA, what are left of THEM, it is still 54%, but give them another hundred years.

[PresbyRev]

There are conservative UU's. A few years back, there was a website/discussion list and membership organization for conservative/libertarian UU's - don't know what it's current status is or is not. They seemed in general to be more 'moderate' than the UUA on homosexuality issues, gun control, national defense, pro-free market, etc.

[hellinahandcart]

Larry a Unitarian? Are you sure? That just doesn't sound right.

There was another FR poster, though, who was a Unitarian, and claimed conservatives were welcome in his particular UUA edifice, but I cannot remember his screen name in order to ping him here.

The thing is, the positions of the UUA church, which are voted on by its members, are all--ALL--either left, far left, hard left, or radical left. It would be nearly impossible for me to be tempted across the threshold of one of those places, knowing that...

[wideawake]

You are correct. They actually began a rapprochement in the XIXth century, but they didn't become a single association until 1961.

Various Unitarian groups became a single association in the 1820s.

[weikel]

Larrylied said he was at least technically a unitarian.

[MrB]

In KC, there is a Unity Church. I don't know if it's a "Unitarian" church.

Someone enlighten me on this, please?

[PresbyRev]

The Congregationalists were, as descended from the original Pilgrim/Puritan types, Calvinists of various stripes. However, a number of churches went Arminian, then Socinian and ultimately into full-blown Unitarianism = salvation by character, anti-creedal, anti-Trinitarian, etc.

crystalk wrote: "I would say maybe 8% of the Unitarians, what are left of them, vote Republican... With the PCUSA, what are left of THEM, it is still 54%, but give them another hundred years."

Maybe so - thank God we are not redeemed by our political ideologies, eh?

[Paleo Conservative]

The Unitarians were liberal Baptists and Congregationalists who came to believe that Jesus was only a man and not divine, and that there is therefore no Trinity.

Not too different than Islam.

[Paleo Conservative]

The Unitarians were liberal Baptists and Congregationalists who came to believe that Jesus was only a man and not divine, and that there is therefore no Trinity.

Not too different than Islam.

[wideawake]

Yeah, sorry LB - but what were the details there regarding the formation of the UCC?

I notice that adherents of the "Church of Christ" seem to be very conservative but adherents of the UCC tend to be extremely liberal. What's the story there?

[PresbyRev]

Yep - I see what you were getting at, mea culpa.

[big gray tabby]

My Mother-in-law is a stone atheist peacenik and she goes to a UU "church. She told me it was okay to bring my kids to their "service", but then they took them out back to "celebrate nature" or some such.

I checked them all over for devil marks or any signs of abuse, but it turns out they sacrificed sombody else's kids that weekend, so I was really silly to worry!

[wideawake]

Luckily they skipped that "Everything that Mohammed babbled within earshot is an eternal law written in stone for all mankind" part.

[wideawake]

There's no culpa - I was very imprecise.

[PJ-Comix]

Unitarian churches used to be easy places to pick up hot chicks like stewardesses. They were always loose and easy. But no more. Unitarian women nowadays are ugly and heavily into the "feminsism" stuff.

[PresbyRev]

Unity is more metaphysical, a close cousin to Christian Science. Unity incorporates Hinduism and in some respects has a very Eastern flavor, in my opinion. Emphasis is on healing, prayer, 'mind over matter,' positive thinking, etc. Very eclectic and open in faith and practice.

If you pop 'Unity School of Practical Christianity' into a search engine you will find their main website where they have listed their beliefs.

[PJ-Comix]

Unitarians were never very conservative as far as religion or politics but they were a bit conservative socially. If you want to read an HILARIOUS account of how a big Unitarian meeting in California was WRECKED by Ken Kesey and the Merry pranksters, then read Tom Wolfe's Electric Acid Kool-Aide Test. We discussed this as part of our Freeper Reading Club discussion of the book.

[Little Bill]

There ain't no conservitive Unitarians, the guy wants love, moral relitivism.

The Catholics have a thing called mental reservation, same, same.