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ATF now requires explosives license (Safe Explosives Act)
http://www.atf.treas.gov ^ | 12/10/2002 | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

Posted on 12/10/2002 11:35:19 PM PST by Myrddin

         
         For Immediate Release
         Contact: Jim Crandall 
                                   November 25, 2002
                                   FY-03-02 
                      Implementation Of the Safe Explosives Act, 
                                Applying Stricter Controls 
                          on The Purchase of Explosives in The 
                           Continuing Fight Against Terrorism

Washington, DC - The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) announces that on November 25, 2002, President Bush signed new legislation that restricts the availability of explosives to felons and other persons prohibited from possessing explosives, strengthens licensing and permitting requirements, and aids in the fight against terrorism. This legislation, the Safe Explosives Act, amends Title XI of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970.

Previously, a Federal permit to purchase explosive materials was necessary if a person wished to transport, ship, or receive explosives in interstate commerce. A permit, however, was not necessary if a person acquired and used explosives within his or her State of residence. The new legislation now requires that any person who wishes to transport, ship, cause to be transported, or receive explosive materials in either interstate or intrastate commerce must first obtain a Federal permit issued by ATF. This requirement takes effect May 24, 2003.

The new legislation creates a new category of permit -- a "limited permit" -- designed for the intrastate purchaser who buys explosives infrequently and does not intend to transport or use the explosives interstate. This permit will allow the purchaser to receive explosive materials from an in-State explosives licensee or permittee on no more than six (6) occasions during the period of the permit. The permit will allow ATF to better monitor explosives commerce in an effort to enhance homeland security, but is designed to not be overly burdensome to legitimate purchasers. The limited permit is valid for one year and is renewable. ATF intends to set the application fee for the limited permit at $25.

The new legislation requires that all applicants for explosives licenses and permits submit photographs and fingerprints so that ATF can perform thorough background checks. The legislation also requires that all applicants submit the names and identifying information of all employees who will possess explosive materials. In this way, ATF can conduct a thorough background check to ensure that these individuals are not prohibited from receiving or possessing explosives. Under previous law, no background checks were conducted for the employees of businesses that used explosives. The business owners or managers were required to be on record with ATF; employees such as warehousemen and drivers were not. The new legislation enables ATF to systematically identify and conduct background checks on such employees to reduce the risk that prohibited persons will gain access to explosives.

The new legislation also expands the categories of prohibited persons to include: (1) aliens (with limited exceptions); (2) persons dishonorably discharged from the military; and (3) citizens of the United States who have renounced their citizenship. The new prohibitions on possession of explosive materials are effective January 24, 2003.

Finally, the new legislation will require manufacturers and importers of explosive materials, including ammonium nitrate, to furnish samples of these materials to ATF, as well as information on their chemical composition or other information ATF may request. This will assist ATF in the identification of explosives found at crime scenes. This provision will be effective January 24, 2003.

Additionally, on January 24, 2003, ATF will be moved to the Department of Justice and will be known as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATFE).

For further information, including proposed regulations and specific questions and answers about the effect of the new law, check the ATF web site at: www.atf.treas.gov.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol
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Now the federal government is going to charge you $25 for a license to buy gun powder. That is half the equation to gun control. You can only buy powder six times or less per year with this permit. Looks like I'll have to buy 8 lbs at a time instead of 1 lb containers. It's cheaper that way, but the kegs take more space. The time is now if you want to stock up on a bunch of 1 lb containers of various types.
1 posted on 12/10/2002 11:35:19 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
The new legislation now requires that any person who wishes to transport, ship, cause to be transported, or receive explosive materials in either interstate or intrastate commerce must first obtain a Federal permit issued by ATF. This requirement takes effect May 24, 2003.

Start stockin' up now!


2 posted on 12/10/2002 11:56:23 PM PST by ppaul
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To: Myrddin
It's about time the government started cracking down on law abiding citizens. That's how they always show how serious they are about fighting crime.
3 posted on 12/11/2002 12:00:33 AM PST by Moonman62
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To: Myrddin
wait a second, what does this mean about buying ammunition online?
4 posted on 12/11/2002 12:03:49 AM PST by Anotherpundit
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To: Myrddin
wait a second, what does this mean about buying ammunition online?
5 posted on 12/11/2002 12:04:13 AM PST by Anotherpundit
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To: Myrddin
wait a second, what does this mean about buying ammunition online?
6 posted on 12/11/2002 12:04:16 AM PST by Anotherpundit
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To: Myrddin
Yours courtesy of the cancerous commerce clause.
7 posted on 12/11/2002 12:05:23 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Myrddin
Additionally, on January 24, 2003, ATF will be moved to the Department of Justice and will be known as the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATFE).
8 posted on 12/11/2002 12:12:51 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Thornwell Simons
You are kidding me? GWB doesn`t want conviced felons to be able to gun powder? Thats not my America, every felon should be able to have as much gun powder as they want unless they aren`t Islamic.

Why,oh, why are we fighting this fight?

9 posted on 12/11/2002 12:14:22 AM PST by bybybill
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To: Myrddin
As I am reading this directive, it seems to apply to those in COMMERCE.
That is to say, buyers, sellers, dealers, manufacturers.
It does not refer to Users, i.e., Black Powder enthusiasts, reloaders, etc.
Private individuals should not require a license unless they are reselling to someone else.
10 posted on 12/11/2002 12:29:07 AM PST by Drammach
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To: bybybill
there are about a million hobbyists, black powder reloaders, etc., who could run into problems because of this. Many/most people who do any significant amount of target shooting either buy ammunition online or reload their own ammunition. Depending on the range of this, it could significantly hinder/harm the shooting sports community.
11 posted on 12/11/2002 12:32:02 AM PST by Anotherpundit
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To: Myrddin
The Safe Explosives Act strikes a reasonable balance. Most large commercial users already have explosives permits because they engage in interstate explosives transport. These users would not be significantly affected by the Kohl-Hatch legislation. The low-volume users will be able to get a limited permit. And high volume intrastate purchasers who are running businesses that require explosives will be able to get an unlimited user permit. Also, the measure will not affect those who use black or smokeless powder for recreation, as the legislation does not change current regulations on those particular materials.

Link

12 posted on 12/11/2002 12:34:17 AM PST by Ouachita
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To: Myrddin
I should have added this copy from the original article.

The new legislation now requires that any person who wishes to transport, ship, cause to be transported, or receive explosive materials in either interstate or intrastate commerce must first obtain a Federal permit issued by ATF. This requirement takes effect May 24, 2003.

I'm not sure that purchase for private use is "engaging in commerce."
Commerce means You're running a business of some sort, doesn't it?

13 posted on 12/11/2002 12:35:09 AM PST by Drammach
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To: Myrddin; tpaine; takenoprisoner; tacticalogic
This story presents several fundamentally important issues for conservatives.

The ATF says:   "The new legislation now requires that any person who wishes to transport, ship, cause to be transported, or receive explosive materials in either interstate or intrastate commerce must first obtain a Federal permit..."

While only a low explosive, gunpowder is nevertheless classified, both technically and legally, as an explosive and as such, this new legislation and permit process would cover the sale of ordinary gunpowder.

But this would amount to an unconstitutional violation of the Second Amendment, because the right to keep and bear arms includes the right to possess ammunition for those arms (whether store bought or reloaded). Any invasive permit process and record keeping by the government of purchases and purchasers of the gunpowder, necessary for reloading ammunition, would have a "chilling effect" upon the exercise of this most fundamental right.

I support the constitutional use of the Interstate Commerce Clause, but this legislation clearly and explicitly crosses the line into an unconstitutional broach of that power by seeking to legislate intrastate commerce. The Constitution gives Congress ZERO authority to legislate in an area that (even Congress admits) involves strictly intrastate commerce. There are nearly 200 years of Supreme Court decisions that affirm this clear limit on Congress' power. Each state already regulates sales of explosives and there is no reason to believe that their efforts are not an adequate deterrence to prevent future acts of terror that might result from such sales.

By signing this legislation, Bush blew it, big time. Does anybody know of a public interest law firm that specializes in Interstate Commerce Cases?

Good catch Myrddin.

Regards,

Boot Hill

14 posted on 12/11/2002 1:45:11 AM PST by Boot Hill
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To: Drammach
Drammach asks:   "Commerce means You're running a business of some sort, doesn't it?"

No, a private person engages in commerce when he buys a product, even if it for his own use. However the Constitution does NOT authorize Congress to legislate commerce that is entirely Intrastate in nature.

--Boot Hill

15 posted on 12/11/2002 1:57:15 AM PST by Boot Hill
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To: Myrddin
FYI, FWIW, I posted your article for comment over here:

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145003

The Firing Line > The Conference Center > General Discussion Forum > ATF now requires explosives license to buy gunpowder (Safe Explosives Act)
16 posted on 12/11/2002 2:00:58 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Myrddin
I don't reload anymore.
Better stock up guys 'n gals!
17 posted on 12/11/2002 2:08:56 AM PST by rockfish59
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To: *bang_list; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Squantos; harpseal
Bang!

Heads up.
18 posted on 12/11/2002 2:15:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Myrddin
The problem is not the selling and transporting of explosive material, it's the incompetent judicial system which refuses to process criminals and punish them as criminals in a timely manner.

Bush has once again, chipped away at the foundation of this country for weak political expediency.

I will not be surprised if Bush turns on the Second Amendment, after the next election, of course.

19 posted on 12/11/2002 2:19:00 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: ppaul
AFIK, smokeless powder is a propellant, not an explosive. I don't think this applies to reloaders.
20 posted on 12/11/2002 2:27:33 AM PST by Spandau
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