Whitehouse Christmas Card

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[wimpycat]

I'll give that an "Amen!"

[alnick]

If he is born again, he must be born again to Satan, No?

No.

[ohioWfan]

Groove death............I like that! It's a perfect description. They do suck the joy and life out of everything!

Do I have your permission to use that description on the malcontents around here?

You know, life has so many legitimate problems......why would anyone create them just to complain? Can you imagine living a life so devoid of joy that you waste your energy complaining about a Christmas card?? I can't even begin to relate to these people! Life is so filled with JOY because of our Godly President! How can they be missing it?!

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Do I have your permission to use that description on the malcontents around here?

Absolutely.

And I can't explain them either, Wfan. I really can't.

[wimpycat]

If you want to be technical and nitpicky about it, it's un-Christian to walk around with long faces and be pessimistic. Consider the lilies of the field...

[alnick]

Do you really think Bush picked that picture?

Laura selected the artist. The artist spent some time at the White House and did several sketches of several scenes, and finally decided on the piano. He had the piano moved so that it would be lit just so. He then spent several months doing the painting from photos and e-mailing the White House with digital pics showing his progress, which someone at the White House, maybe Laura, gave input (very little, according to the artist), and the result is the lovely card posted at the beginning of this thread.

[wimpycat]

I watched that program last night, too.

The only input the White House had on the Christmas card was that the artist had to work in oils and the painting had to be vertically oriented. And that was it, except for the minor suggestions you mentioned.

I think it's kind of neat, a Chinese born artist only a citizen for the past 7 years. He fully appreciated the honor of being chosen, too. He probably appreciated it more than most native born artists.

[ohioWfan]

Actually, it's not being nitpicky......it's being Biblical.

People who are perpetually complaining and mad at life are NOT experiencing the joy of their salvation, nor the contentment of the Lord.

There's a big difference between recognizing that there are problems in this world which need to be addressed, and looking for them in Christmas cards sent by a righteous leader and his lovely wife........a BIG difference.

[alnick]

Dad. One thing for sure, I do not call him the Holy Father.

Now, I didn't want to offend Catholics with that question. I was kind of flip when I asked it and I shouldn't have been, but it was to illustrate how easy it is to find fault with another's faith since that's what he was doing.

I am curious though and now that the question is out I would be very interested in a serious response.

For the record, I stick by what I said earlier about believing that the important thing between Christians of various religions is the Christian part as opposed to the religion part, so I'm not going to knock Catholics for practicing their religion differently than I practice mine.

[alnick]

That was a wonderful program. I was happy to see that the lady who hosts Decorating Cents got to host that. She must have been so excited.

[alnick]

I'd like to apologize for the cocky tone in my post No. 558 to you regarding calling the Pope the Holy Father. I should have been more tactful. I apologize to any Catholic that I offended with my tone in that post.

I still disagree with some of your other points on this thread, but I shouldn't have taken that tone regarding your religion.

As I mentioned to someone else, I'm still curious about it. I've always been curious about that, but no disrespect was intended.

God Bless you. :-)

[homeschool mama]

**I wrote I would vote for a conservative athesist or a Jewish candidate..(no muslims I must admit) **

Thank you for clarifying. I read it to mean a Jewish candidate as seperate from conservative.

[homeschool mama]

Beautifully put, lawgirl. Thank you.

[pbear8]

Here is a source to help you in your genuine search for information regarding this scripture from the Catholic prespective.

http://www.catholic.com/library/Call_No_Man_Father.asp

[Texas Mom]

Sorry ment to say. Grand Piano for our Lords Birth? What a joke not even a mention of Christ. GWB is way to concerned what the PC world thinks.

You must have missed the scripture on the inside right under the seal. "For the Lord is good: His Mercy is Everlasting; and His Truth endureth to all Generations." Psalm 100:5 Remember the flack he got last year for including a scripture in his card? Well, it didn't seem to bother him. He did it again this year.

[alnick]

Thank you. I will read it in the morning. I'm heading off to bed right now.

[Texas Mom]

So believers should see Christ in there, very clearly. "A rose by any other name," and all that. Arians would say that Jesus is not "the Lord," but the Church worked very hard to get rid of them some centuries back.

Jesus is Lord, He is Lord indeed.. Amen!

[Texas Mom]

Now, please find something else to carp about. It seems to me that you are one of those glass half-empty people.

Well said.. indeed..

[DreamWeaver]

No I am not at asaying what you seem to read into my post of what I actually did say. I said that the card from the WH has nothing referring to Christmas, the birth of Christ which is what Christmas is about !!!

No, I am not saying the OT isn't about the Messiah ( Jesus the Christ). In fact the OT is all about the coming of Him. What I do say is that I find it strange that quotes from the NT are rarely posted, they are mostly from the OT...

Big difference what you are getting out of what I said, so, please go back and re read what I actually did say.

[ohioWfan]

I went back and read what you 'actually did say' and had the exact interpretation I did the first time.

You think the President is afraid to put a New Testament verse on his card because it's not PC. You wonder why he didn't. It's a silly thing to fret about.

This whole thread is silly. The President is a Christian who has spoken openly about his faith in Jesus Christ. No one questions that except a few picky, unaware, bullheaded, politically motivated people around here.

He and Laura sent a lovely Christian Christmas card, which people were thrilled to receive. He is the first President to put Scripture in a card, and you are griping because it's from the Old Testament. And in addition, I think you are imagining the absence of New Testament verses around here.

Why don't you find something important to worry about, thank the Lord that we have a GODLY CHRISTIAN President who honors the LORD with his life, and have a Merry Christmas, knowing that your President is glorying in the birth of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, just as you are.