Bills could end child support payments from men who aren't biological dads

MLIVE.com ^ | The Associated Press

[jimkress]

Welcome to the era of fee love.

[Dimensio]

I prefer an all-or-nothing approach. If the man does not want to undertake any financial responsibility for the child, then he should not have any paternal rights.

[BuddhaBoy]

Did you read the article?

This stuff is happening mostly in married couples, not just singles.

I personally advise men to avoid marriage at all costs, because it (along with parentage) provide the state with all the nessesary means to enslave him.

[jimkress]

So, according to your logic, if I'm in a bank when it's robbed, and the authorities can't find the robber, I should be forced to go to jail for the crime?

The end never justifies the means, no matter how appealing the end may be.

[BuddhaBoy]

Okay, I'll put you down on the side in favor of supporting Fraud "for the children".

Nice.

[Hodar]

The child who is not to blame is being punished when the father backs away from his responsibilities of being a parent

So, a relationship based upon a deceitful lie is one that should be encouraged? Why should a man, betrayed by a woman, take the time and money out of his life to attempt to be a father to a child that is not his? He committed no crime. If I am the father, you may force me to pay child support.... but NO ONE may FORCE another to be a father. And again, the alleged father is the victim of fraud, and you are making him out to be the villian. The lying, deceitful mother is the felon.

[alpowolf]

Precisely. It is the mother who is punishing the child, not the man deceived into believing he is the father.

[Fee]

AMEN

[Mamzelle]

This is one serious hangup you've got here. Two new threads on this subject in one day.

[Hodar]

Many people adopt children and love and support adopted children. The adopted parent(s) are as much of parent(s) as the biological, even more so.

I agree with your sentiments that non-biological parents can be a loving, lasting family relationship. However, as any adopting parent can tell you, they KNEW the child was not their biological child. It's merely a case of informed consent.

[BuddhaBoy]

Welcome to the era of fee love.

Welcome? It has always existed. However, women are now making the mistake of letting it become public knowledge, allowing men to react in kind.

When relationships become more and more like retail shopping, men are going to care a lot more about the "quality and freshness" factors in their purchasing decisions.

Many women are going to be left on the shelves for being either too old, too picked over, too expensive, too big, too small, or with poor packaging and marketing.

[BuddhaBoy]

I would expect YOU to call supporting THE LAW a hangup. Save your breath, troll. Or better yet, if you dont like it, you dont have to be here.

[Mamzelle]

If a man is enjoying a woman's favors, chances are the kid COULD be his. Only the DNA knows for sure. I'm getting a real charge out of this perennial issue on FR--sure are a lot of enraged cuckholds on this forum!

[Eternal_Bear]

There was a Mexican family in the neighborhood that was having a Black guy (not light at all) paying support for the daughter's child. The kicker was: the child was whiter than the mom. I didn't say nothing. Just smirked.

[Hodar]

This is one serious hangup you've got here.

Let's see, a case of felonous fraud; a several clear cut cases where men are blackmailed (pay, or go to jail) into paying for children whom they did not father; and the poster has "one serious hangup"? Naturally, the problem is with the poster, not the law. < /sarcasm>

[Mamzelle]

I'm on the forum for the same reason almost everyone else is...for the entertainment and occasional elucidation.

So elucidate. WHAT is the big deal? What's it to ya?

I sorta don't think this is all about your overweening concern for your fellow fellows.

[alpowolf]

Actually most of us are not cuckolds. I certainly am not. I am, however, tired of being the scapegoat for all social problems, and everybody's meal ticket.

[BuddhaBoy]

If a man is enjoying a woman's favors,"

Thats what bothers you, isnt it? LOL! How dare a man ENJOY women! How dare we have sex with them WITHOUT promising to support them and their progeny for a couple of decades!

How DARE we like sex! Dont we know that we are SUPPOSED to PAY for it?!?!?

We do pay, dear. Every time we come across a man-hating shrew like you.

[knak]

There was a guy here in alaska that worked for my husband, who beleived he was the father of a 2 year old little boy. The mother and he had split and she told him he was the daddy, along with child welfare. He paid child support for a few years and only saw the child when the mom had "dates". Turns out two other men had been told they were the father also. When the blank hit the fan, all three men went through paternity testing. None were the father. Child welfare last we saw of the guy was still making him pay child support. He hasn't been able to see the child because he lost all visitation rights when the paternity test was done. But still was made to pay. Now that's crazy.

[CindyDawg]

Hmm. I thought that was what I was saying. I just don't think he should legally be made to do so. That just causes resentment and will hurt the child. However if he does so from the goodness of his heart, then maybe he and the children will heal.