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'Gay' Reaction to Mrs. Stachowicz’s Murder: Silence to Applause
Culture and Family Institute/ Concerned Women for America ^ | 12/5/02 | Allyson Smith

Posted on 12/05/2002 12:41:29 PM PST by Polycarp

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1 posted on 12/05/2002 12:41:29 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: *Catholic_list; .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; ...
A devout Catholic, Mary Stachowicz met her martyrdom while working at the Sikorski Funeral Home on Chicago’s northwest side, where she got to know Gutierrez, 19, who lived in a second-floor apartment above the funeral home. On the afternoon of November 13, Stachowicz attended Mass at St. Hyacinth parish across the street, then returned to the funeral home and went to visit Gutierrez in his apartment.

According to Chicago police, an argument broke out when Mrs. Stachowicz lectured Gutierrez about his lifestyle and his lack of direction in life. Gutierrez later told police that he had issues with his mother and that the way Stachowicz was talking to him gave him flashbacks of his mother that angered him.

When Stachowicz asked him, "Why do you [have sex with] boys instead of girls?" Gutierrez snapped. In a fit of rage, he punched, kicked, stabbed and strangled the 51-year-old wife and mother of four. Gutierrez then stuffed her body into a crawl space under the floor of his apartment, where it remained for two days until he confessed to police.

Amazingly, some of the most brazenly diabolical comments referred to in this article were mirrored in comments on threads about Mrs. Stachowicz’s Murder on this very Forum.

Pinging

2 posted on 12/05/2002 12:44:14 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
But O'Reilly doesn't think it was a hate crime - just a guy who 'went off'.....uh huh.....

Soon it will be said of those who say "I'll pray for you" - 'he/she had it coming'......

3 posted on 12/05/2002 12:45:26 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: *Homosexual Agenda
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4 posted on 12/05/2002 12:53:57 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Polycarp
"mirrored in comments on threads about Mrs. Stachowicz’s Murder on this very Forum"

Ohhh man!! I wish you were joking.

Shame is brought on us all.

5 posted on 12/05/2002 12:54:39 PM PST by laotzu
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To: Polycarp
According to Chicago police, an argument broke out when Mrs. Stachowicz lectured Gutierrez about his lifestyle and his lack of direction in life. Gutierrez later told police that he had issues with his mother and that the way Stachowicz was talking to him gave him flashbacks of his mother that angered him.

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NOOOO!!! A gay man who has 'issues' with his mother?!?! You have got to be kidding me. I read a newspaper article once that said homosexuality was genetic!
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Oh and then there's this: pro-homosexualists

Is that a new term? Never heard that one before.
6 posted on 12/05/2002 12:55:36 PM PST by bourbon
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To: anniegetyourgun
Sometime O'reilly is right and other times he is a moron. This time he is playing the village idiot.
7 posted on 12/05/2002 12:56:17 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants
On the issue of homosexuality, he's lost all perspective as he attempts to prove himself right.
8 posted on 12/05/2002 12:59:49 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
But O'Reilly doesn't think it was a hate crime - just a guy who 'went off'.....uh huh.....

I dont watch him very much, but he honestly caught me by surprise last night when he said that. It doesn't wash with the fact that the killer invited her upstairs to his appartment, assaulted her and then killed her. That's premeditated, obviously spurred by her comments questioning his lifestyle. He didn't just "go off".

9 posted on 12/05/2002 1:01:53 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: laotzu
I think there is a small but vocal homosexual activist presence on this Forum. Look through the comments on this thread:

Woman Murdered After Witnessing to Homosexual; TEEN STABS DEVOUT CATHOLIC TO DEATH

10 posted on 12/05/2002 1:02:31 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
And to think, these are the people trying to worm themselves into the Boy Scouts. Get ready Christians, if they get their way, you will be locked up for believing that homosexuality is wrong.
12 posted on 12/05/2002 1:03:10 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: anniegetyourgun
But O'Reilly doesn't think it was a hate crime - just a guy who 'went off'.....uh huh.....

O'Rielly is so tiresome. We just got his radio show here in Dalls and I can not get to the radio quick enough to switch him off.

I wonder if Bob Barr and Dick Armey, and their new relationship with the ACLU, are going to be allowed to give any 'advice' on the subject of Mary's death.

13 posted on 12/05/2002 1:05:06 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Polycarp
It seems to me that the very strength of sites like Freerepublic and conservatives who are gaining such popularity on the national air-waves is their ability to not only espouse the conservative viewpoint but to shape thinking as well. In fact, the freedom to do such a thing is one of the things that makes this country so great. I'd even go so far as to say that the very thing we often want to do internationally in our foreign policy is not to merely defend ourselves but shape foreign governments in such a way that they will embrace a more democratic process for their people.

It does not surprise me that people on FR criticized and even lambasted Mary Stachowicz - it reveals a deep-seated hypocrisy. While we are busy 'Freeping' various politicians on the streets thoughout the country it is shameful and hypocritical to say anything even remotely like 'she deserved it' simply because she was sharing her spiritual convictions. Her right to do so is fundamental to what makes this country great and to affirm in any way an action that stifles that right is to be the very thing we hate.

As for the posted article itself - the homosexual activists in many ways have become the very thing they themselves fear and hate. There was a time in American history (and still exists in some places) where a gay would have been beaten if not to death then nearly so for being gay. As deplorable as that may sound there is a very real mentality as evidenced in this article that they would beat to death a critic and feel justified for doing so. They are 'right' after all. Bullhockey. It's never been right for anyone to beat someone else to death for a sin committed. (we're not talking capital punishment here)

What's the difference between a 'conservative' and a 'homosexual activist' who savors the death of Mary Stachowicz at any level simply because she's a Christian? No difference - they are the same. Despicable.

14 posted on 12/05/2002 1:07:03 PM PST by Frapster
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Maybe this will give pause to other people who similarly try to ‘help’ homosexuals."

Hmmmm... What's the message here, folks-- question them and they'll hurt ya?

Another Religion of Peace.

16 posted on 12/05/2002 1:09:16 PM PST by maxwell
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To: Polycarp
And so it will ever be as there are many here who claim to be Christians and yet pick and choose what of His Word they will believe.
17 posted on 12/05/2002 1:09:23 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: laotzu
Speak of the devil...

I see a couple of the homo activists have already showed up on this thread that I was referring to from the previous one. Predictable.

18 posted on 12/05/2002 1:12:05 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Its only a hate crime if a 'gay' is the victim. Same double standard I have come to expect from that quarter.

Unfortunately for Mary Stachowicz's family she forgot Jesus' admonition in Matt 7:6 "Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet and then turn and tear you to pieces." May God comfort them in their loss.

Thanks for the post, Polycarp.
19 posted on 12/05/2002 1:12:41 PM PST by MoGalahad
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