Posted on 12/04/2002 2:12:24 PM PST by Diogenesis
GOTTA SEE THIS - War for Enduring Freedom 12/5/02 - Strike Video, Salman Bak, Al-Tuwaitha, al-Muthanna, Halabja, Mosul
BREAKING: Salman Bak, Al-Tuwaitha nuclear complex BREAKING: al-Muthanna - guano and tanks BREAKING: Halabja - ~20 of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan killed or wounded trusting a truce with al Qaeda and Islamic terrorists BREAKING: Mosul - U.S. and British warplanes defended the sky
STRIKE VIDEO 
Iraqi Spoon-rest Radar on a truck. (Note: mpg file is 16.4 MB)
From the DoD News Briefing
=========== Baghdad ===========
In Baghdad, Iraq, inspectors leaving UN HQ.
In Iraq, at Salman Bak, at the Al-Tuwaitha nuclear complex, ~11 miles SE of Baghdad,
Iraqis guard.
In Iraq, at the al-Muthanna complex, 40 miles northwest of Baghdad,
after U.N. weapons inspectors entered.
The tour ended at al-Muthanna with Iraqi soldiers leading the inspectors
through the stench of bird droppings.
In Iraq, at the al-Muthanna complex, 40 miles northwest of Baghdad,
after the inspectors left, the usual tours of older equipment, some cement filled tanks
used for chemical and biological agent production in the 1990s.
In Baghdad, Iraq, from space, the Al-Sajoud palace,
with small blue dome and the peacock-shaped garden on the Tigris river.
In Baghdad, Iraq, in the Alawi district, at the chain factory.
========= Halabja =========
In Halabja, ~238 miles northeast of Baghdad,
~20 of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan were killed or wounded
fighting Islamic terrorists and al Qaeda. They thought there was
a truce for the end of Ramadan and got cold cocked.
========= Mosul =========
In Mosul, Iraq, U.S. and British warplanes defended the sky
in the northern Iraq no-fly zone in the third such raid in four days.
========= Nearby Spiral M33 =========
Nearby Spiral M33, also known as the Triangulum Galaxy, is 1/4th the size of the Milky Way Galaxy
and appears twice the angular size of the full Moon.
END OF TRANSMISSION 12/5/02 .......... K
No strike on this video. ;-(
You should!!
A deployed Spoon Rest looks like this and as such it is very stationary once deployed.
Is that an AK-47 or are you just glad to see me?
I like that the U.S. is remaining relatively quiet...it has to be unnerving to Koffi and co...aswell as Saddam...and hey..even Riyahd!
They will...and it may happen sooner than many people think. Here's a question to ponder, and I believe the White House and Pentagon folks are pondering just this:
After Saddam, who's next?
I say we kick some ass in Alphabetical order...
Starting with the Arabs!!!
According to both Sec. Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers, the coalition aircraft could go after the Spoon Rest radar even if it was not actively deployed.
From DoD News Briefing - Secretary Rumsfeld And Gen. Myers 12/3/02:
Q: And the second one, I need clarification on the tape you showed of that radar unit being moved to what -
Myers: Right.
Q: could be -- (inaudible) -- you suggested in answer to one of the questions that you didn't go after it because of possible collateral damage. I was under the impression, and I'm probably wrong on it, but that you only fire at those radars when they train their radar on U.S. planes. Is that -
Myers: No, they're fair targets if -- if our air crews, coalition air crews have been shot at, then they become a fair target whether -- I mean, whether or not they illuminate or not, because they're involved in the whole air defense system. So, we could go after them. And just to clarify, I mean, we know it's not a military facility, when I said I -- it's definitely civilian. Now, what its exact use is, whether it's an old folks home, a school, residences, that's the part we don't know, because we don't spend time looking at civilian areas like that, try to -- (inaudible) -
Q: General, on November 26th -
Rumsfeld: Let me make this very clear: The coalition pilots, crews are not restricted to attacking only the things that attack them -- specifically not. They have the freedom to attack targets that will degrade the air defense capability and make the responsibilities they have less dangerous.
Q: I see. So, on November 26th, when that tape was shot, they could have been shot in part A of Iraq, and that radar could have been in another location, still, under that rule, it could be attacked then. Right?
Myers: That's correct. I mean, if it contributes -- and without getting into a lot of operational detail, they are not restricted to the thing that shot at them.
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The US drops leaflets that tell Iraqies not to threaten US aircraft. So according to this if some army unit in the Northern No-Fly Zone does fires on US aircraft or turns on his radar then an army unit in the Southern No-Fly Zone is a valid target even though they might have been following the US leaflets advice.
So at the end of the day an Iraqi air defence unit will get bombed sooner or later even if they keep down.
So logically there is nothing they can do.
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