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Imams of Inanity (US Christian Fundamentalists=Islamic radicals BARF ALERT!!!)
The Washington Post ^ | December 3, 2002 | Richard Cohen

Posted on 12/03/2002 6:12:21 AM PST by BaghdadBarney

Edited on 12/03/2002 6:31:08 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Imams of Inanity

By Richard Cohen

Tuesday, December 3, 2002; Page A25

Back in October the Rev. Jerry Falwell called Muhammad, the founder of Islam, a terrorist. This set off riots in India and may have contributed to the good showing of religious parties in the Pakistani election. About two weeks after he made the remark, Falwell retracted it. I think Falwell is an idiot. I will issue a retraction later.

In the meantime, I will concern myself with the Rev. Pat Robertson, the founder of the Christian Coalition, who has conferred on Islam in general the distinction of being worse than Hitler. "Adolf Hitler was bad, but what the Muslims want to do to the Jews is worse," Robertson said recently. And rather than apologize or retract in the manner of Falwell, Robertson went on ABC's "This Week" and repeated it all to George Stephanopoulos.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; cohen; falwell; robertson
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To: BaghdadBarney
Islam really isn't so bad... it merely leads people to a horribly painful eternity in Hell as unwitting tools of Satan.

There, is that better, Mr. Cohen?

41 posted on 12/03/2002 9:36:14 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: Matchett-PI
Wrongo.

So you do see a moral equivalency between Christians stating that Islam is promoting hate and murder and the Islamists promoting hate and murder.

I fail to understand that kind of logic.

42 posted on 12/03/2002 9:42:12 AM PST by w1andsodidwe
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To: Matchett-PI
I thank God for inspiring our Framers to put the Constitution between them and me

And I'm grateful to the Leaders of the First Great Awakening, who very strongly believed in the right of an individual to express his religious beliefs. If it weren't for them, we'd probably still be part of Great Britain.

From The Concord Review

Although the Great Awakening only lasted from 1735-1745, it not only increased church membership but also stimulated education and promoted a separation of church and state....The Great Awakening influenced the founding of prestigious universities, including Princeton, Dartmouth, Brown, Rutgers, Washington and Lee, and Hampden-Sydney.[41] Because tolerance, one of the results of the Awakening, was associated with atheism, the Standing Order ended the Holy Commonwealth, or church-state. Thus, the Great Awakening affected not only affairs within the church, but it also transformed the colonial government and had a profound impact on secondary education.

The Great Awakening, furthermore, effected significant social leveling and led to increased religious tolerance within the colony of Connecticut....

How lucky we were to have such a religious movement in Colonial America!!
43 posted on 12/03/2002 9:43:30 AM PST by syriacus
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To: Matchett-PI
Killing Underscores Enmity of Evangelists and Muslims

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The Web site goes on to say that "new believers" are being persecuted and asks church members to "pray for a recent surge of persecution against the ministry in Sidon."

"The local `religious' leaders have written about us falsely in the newspapers and preached against us in the city mosques," it added.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/25/international/middleeast/25LEBA.html

44 posted on 12/03/2002 9:47:28 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: concerned about politics
Post 38

Not the same! But we did know who the enemy was didn't we?

Commies!

Just like Islam is the enemy!
45 posted on 12/03/2002 9:49:46 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: concerned about politics; TLBSHOW; Lotapoloosa; BaghdadBarney; billbears; w1andsodidwe; dirtboy; ...
M-PI: "There are even radical, zealots that claim to be "Christians" who are champing at the bit for the opportunity to obtain power and control at the Federal level so as to impose their version of "Gawd's government" on the rest of us, too."

cab: "What would Jesus drive?" "Choice on earth" Christmas cards."

No. Those are examples of the non-peaceful, professing Christian members of the radical Religious Left who have already obtained power and control in our government and institutions and have been busily imposing their religious beliefs on the rest of us for a long time.

I'm referring to the professing Christians who don't want Bush to say that most Muslims are peaceful in their practice of Islam. I'm referring to the radical zealots who want him to frame things in such a way as to incite, inflame and escalate terrorist activity, and gain them sympathy from other (so far *peaceful*) Muslims.

That is what they would do if they were sitting in the office of the Presidency.

GOD FORBID

46 posted on 12/03/2002 9:54:58 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: syriacus
BTTT!!!
47 posted on 12/03/2002 10:01:33 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: BaghdadBarney
Why sure! Don't you remember those buildings that the fundamentalist Christians destroyed with airliners?

Oh! Never mind.

48 posted on 12/03/2002 10:08:25 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Matchett-PI
I'm referring to the professing Christians who don't want Bush to say that most Muslims are peaceful in their practice of Islam. I'm referring to the radical zealots who want him to frame things in such a way as to incite, inflame and escalate terrorist activity, and gain them sympathy from other (so far *peaceful*) Muslims.

So you don't believe in freedom of speech. I think that the so called radical zealots can say anything that want, that is not the equivalent of the deadly actions taken by radical Islam. Nobody died from their words. Why should they be stiffled.

49 posted on 12/03/2002 10:56:13 AM PST by w1andsodidwe
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To: w1andsodidwe
M-PI:"I'm referring to the professing Christians who don't want Bush to say that ....."

w1andsodidwe: "So you don't believe in freedom of speech. ..."

If you had read what I wrote more carefully, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself by asking such a question.

The ones I was talking about are those who are trying to control Bush's speech. Looks as if you might just be one of them. LOL

50 posted on 12/03/2002 11:06:38 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Matchett-PI
If you had read what I wrote more carefully, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself by asking such a question.

The ones I was talking about are those who are trying to control Bush's speech. Looks as if you might just be one of them. LOL

I just think that the so called Radical Christians can say anything they want. There is nobody reining in the Radical Islamists. So why not?

In your mind they might be trying to control the President's speech. I don't believe that the President is some idiot puppet who can be controlled by them. I think you insult the President by suggesting such a thing and embarrass yourself.

51 posted on 12/03/2002 11:44:59 AM PST by w1andsodidwe
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To: w1andsodidwe
"I just think that the so called Radical Christians can say anything they want."

So far they have been saying anything they want.

"So why not?"

For the same reason one doesn't yell "fire" in a crowded theater --- it can get a lot of people killed.

How about some circumspection and self-control of one's tongue so as not to incite, inflame and escalate terrorist activity, and gain them sympathy from other (so far *peaceful*) Muslims. [see #46]

I feel sorry for the President that so much of the base of the Republican party is made up of naive, emotion-driven zealots and religious KOOKS. It makes his job a whole LOT harder.

52 posted on 12/03/2002 12:08:14 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: judicial meanz
Great post #13.
53 posted on 12/03/2002 1:50:53 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: KC_Conspirator
Richard Cohen deserved every bit the @$$ kicking given to him by Ann Coulter in her book "Slander". ROTFL!
54 posted on 12/03/2002 1:52:04 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: RAT Patrol
Thanks for the compliment man. It gets tiring seeing the left trot out a neo marxist secular Jew to attack American Christians to alientate them from the real issue of totalitarianism and genocide.

I have a short fuse with them anyway..LOL
55 posted on 12/03/2002 2:03:06 PM PST by judicial meanz
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To: Matchett-PI
There are even radical, zealots that claim to be "Christians" who are champing at the bit for the opportunity to obtain power and control at the Federal level so as to impose their version of "Gawd's government" on the rest of us, too ... whether we like it or not.

I don't really disagree with your post except for the above statement. I see no signs of what you are talking about. No one in this country wants a gov't endorsed religion. Christians would like the gov't to stop being so hostile to religion. Big difference. Religion is good for society. It goes into the hearts and minds of people and motivates them to live morally, help their fellow man, be virtuous, and many other things government cannot begin to do for us. Government should not discourage religion even while it never endorses one.

A willingly transformed life can do far more good for our culture than a cold, neutral government that is funded by theft.

56 posted on 12/03/2002 2:03:16 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: TLBSHOW
ISLAM IS THE ENEMY

yes it is..and the next runner up is American people that deny the truth because big brother says it is not true..Sheeple people..

57 posted on 12/03/2002 3:14:28 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: TLBSHOW
Oddly enough, Bush is in somewhat the same position as certain political leaders in the Muslim world. He too is finding it awkward to deal with crackpot religious leaders. America's religious fundamentalists are Bush's core political constituency. He relied on them in South Carolina, for instance, to defeat Sen. John McCain in the Republican presidential primary.

And here is the point isn't it..the nutty religious right gives them elections..but like the crazy aunt in the attic they only want us in public at election time..Other than that those that call the name of Christ need to whisper and not embarress them..mark these times well the constitution is being shredded before our eyes, and the idea of a Juedo/Christian culture is going the way of a horse and buggy

58 posted on 12/03/2002 3:20:49 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: BaghdadBarney

HAPPY RAMADAN!!!
59 posted on 12/03/2002 4:08:49 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: billbears
Second, how are Christians supposed to feel when members of this administration (Colin Powell) reiterate, in not as strong words of this article, the same meaning in their public speeches?

Well, this Christian is still waiting for consistency from the administration regarding "religious tolerance."
60 posted on 12/03/2002 4:19:06 PM PST by k2blader
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