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Free Republic losing its impact
Alamance Independent ^ | Unknown | Matt Maggio

Posted on 12/01/2002 1:23:55 PM PST by BraveMan

What a long way Free Republic has come! From its birth in 1996 as what began as just a place where hardcore conservatives to post the latest news and analyze it, Free Republic two years later had a significant role in the neutralization of the Clintons - as it became the organizing point for enormous protests ridiculing Bill Clinton over Monicagate everywhere he went in the U.S. early in Monicagate throughout 1998. Some top liberals even blame Freepers for Al Gore's defeat.

Very early in Monicagate, Freepers brought Free Republic out of just being a sort of giant cybercafe for dissidents to talk things over - and made it into a very-effective organizing point for giant protests against liberals and liberalism, like the one in Houston at a Clinton fundraiser that not only like most greeted Clinton with hundreds of dissidents ridiculing him for his adultery and perjury, but even found a fire engine to hang a giant sign on that read "Bill Clinton Is A Four-Alarm Fraud." Freepers in Florida hung a giant sign on a cabin cruiser to float in a strategic position just offshore a fundraiser of his there. And here in North Carolina, about 30 Freepers picketed an Al Gore fundraiser in Raleigh's Volvo district in May 1999 - some dressed as Buddhist monks. The Clintons/Gore Regime just couldn't escape the conservatives from hell.

Other liberals were no luckier. The "Rosiecott" that ended Corporate America's willingness to indulge leftist politics was in large part organized on Free Republic. Freeper-organized boycotts were to Rosie O'Donnell's career what a later gay boycott was to advice-talk radio host Dr. Laura's.

But - just six years after its founding, just four years after the height of its power - Free Republic today is largely a total waste of time. As a reader commented, it isn't accomplishing anything anymore - with the giant protests against liberals formerly organized on it by Freepers over; as he agreed last week, the sole positive things it now does are to provide rapid dissemination of news, even from small-town dailies, to dissidents everywhere - and to guide dissidents to the various dissident newspapers that really are hardcore.

Some social issues are almost unmentionable on Free Republic today. More than one Freeper has griped that posted articles on immigration often just disappear. Other Freepers have been just blacklisted from Free Republic - for offending the sensibilities of founder Jim Robinson or the small clique under him that largely actually runs Free Republic now.

Today, Free Republic is every bit as handicapped as founder Jim Robinson - but by another problem. To all too many Freepers now, anyone calling themselves a Republican is God's brother - and cannot be criticized, no matter how Clintonesque their views on many social issues may be. And to all too many Freepers now, Pres. Bush really is God - uncriticizable, no matter what.

To make Free Republic great again, a number of things have to happen. First, all involved - from ordinary Freepers to "JimBob" himself - have to accept that having an (R) next to one's name doesn't make a politician beyond criticism. Second, all involved must also accept that Pres. Bush isn't God. And then, all Freepers must commit to doing again what made Free Republic great - hounding any politician at odds with Red Nation's masses on social issues; if that means picketing Pres. Bush everywhere he goes if he hints at amnesty for illegal aliens or tacit support of racial quotas, that's what it takes.

Free Republic didn't become great by being a Chinese-style "Democracy Wall" for dissidents to post articles from "mainstream" newspapers to and then discuss them. It can only became great again the same way it originally got great.


TOPICS: Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antifreeper; opuslist; tos
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To: MSCASEY
Gee havn't you heard hear on free rebuplic or did all of the threads get pulled about amensty and the trucks. And when visiting it is always reffered to as the Americas. I guess you are not informed around here.

What do trucks have to do with amnesty? As to the Amnesty threads none have announced any amnesty have they? You and your Tancredo brigade are, without equal, the funniest bunch of bunker dwellers I have seen around here.

701 posted on 12/02/2002 12:44:54 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Oh, I guess you did not hear about opening up our borders for the Mexican truckers! Gee maybe you should look at some news once and a while! It all has to do with overloading our country and sending our jobs bye bye!

MCD
702 posted on 12/02/2002 12:57:06 AM PST by MSCASEY
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To: DoughtyOne
Doughty, the point is that not everyone has been here as long as you and I have. YOU know that. Quit dodging.
703 posted on 12/02/2002 3:21:33 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: SCalGal
You left out a category for those of us who believe that our president is human

You're right, and thanks for adding that.

704 posted on 12/02/2002 3:33:03 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: WarHawk42
The republicans have a golden oppertunity, but they need to deliver while they have it.  They have no excuse not to.  They have it all.  Yea I already hear we don't have a big enough margine in the senate.  I guess that will be the excuse dejour untill 2004.

I'm sorry that you can not seem to comprehend reality, even you say you know it. The republicans do NOT have the Senate. Even pretending that we don't have Rinos who may end up voting with the Demodogs outright, and pretending that Breaux (sp?) and Miller may be counted as Dinos on many cases for the president, there is virtually nothing that can be done with only 54 Senate votes against concerted opposition. The only hope the President has is that such a stand by the Demodogs will slaughter them at the polls in '04 and '06 and beyond. Any attitude such as you have expressed that he and conservatives can somehow force their will in the Congress in the present circumstances will doom that possibility and any hope of EVER gaining passage of an even modest conservative agenda.

Get used to it: a few items may be able to pass the present Senate, but Lott and the President will have to promise some liberal agenda items be passed, or they will not even get those few done. This IS the way our country works. (Recall that when LBJ passed the horrifying bills that really crucified this country he had something like a 68-32 split in the Senate.) Until there are a sufficient number (read that as 60, for my purposes) of conservatives, not Republicans, in the Senate, very small steps will have to be slowly taken to reverse the political situation in this country.

Anyone who has such unrealistic, overly high expectations, such as those you expressed here, I suspect of being a Demodog (or demagogic libertarian) themselves. It is exactly the tactics which were being employed by D'ashole and the others of his ilk in an attempt to discredit the President by saying 'he failed to do...' when the blame for that was squarely in their lap.

The Republicans do have a golden opportunity, but that opportunity this year is not in passing a conservative agenda, but in solidifying the trend toward a more conservative government which will allow us at some time in the future can pass a conservative agenda, or at least roll back the leftist agenda which has been enacted. That golden opportunity will be squandered by overreaching and expecting too much, and it is exactly what the demodogs (and libertarians) are hoping for.

705 posted on 12/02/2002 4:03:36 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: Miss Marple
I really don't care what your motivation was for dumping the Republicans (although I would point out to you that President Bush was the ONLY Republican who asked Pat to stay in the party rather than jumping, and he was not party to the odious Hitler comments of that weasel Roger Stone), but I do care that you not lead people to think that you are a Bush supporter "holding his feet to the fire." To leave that impression is a bit dicey, don't you think?

Thanks for applying some truth in advertising, MM. There are clearly some others who like to monopolize some threads that it would be nice to have similar perspective about, so their statements can be properly evaluated.

706 posted on 12/02/2002 4:16:28 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: dansangel; .45MAN
Good for you and .45man! What a relief to get rid of McKinny, huh? Freeper protests are the greatest fun. My favorite was here in Houston when we stuck styrofoam cups in chain link fence and spelled out "Wag the dog" over busy overpass at 5 o'clock (we always got permits). All the cars started honking like crazy and someone got word to us that bombs had just started dropping in Yugoslavia (the capital?)

Then during the recount I made front page of metro section of Chronicle facing off with a socialist protestor. Our core group protested every weekend before the local cameras, and got some write-ups in the paper.

I can't wait for the next election and we should all stay informed and not get complacent. We can help make it a rout!
707 posted on 12/02/2002 4:27:54 AM PST by omegab
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To: Cultural Jihad
Yes...that is TRUE...he and his Yankee horde "liberated" us from everything they could carry....!




hehe..Nice Try!


For a WLAT free South!
708 posted on 12/02/2002 4:31:43 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Senator Pardek
Sorry. The correct pronounciation is: r-intense.
709 posted on 12/02/2002 4:32:53 AM PST by rintense
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To: stainlessbanner
Thanks...I kinda chuckled myself....:)
710 posted on 12/02/2002 4:35:00 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: billbears
Thanks....with everyone's help we can be WLAT FREE in YOUR lifetime....send your tax-deductible contributions to:

SPLAT WLAT
Yankees-Not-Welcome, Georgia 33037

You can make a difference!
711 posted on 12/02/2002 4:37:56 AM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: billbears
I like W, but NOT bigger government. Thumbs down.
712 posted on 12/02/2002 4:40:56 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: BraveMan
Thanks for the post BraveMan. Another example of how Freepers keep themselves informed. By some of the comments there seems to be a lot of skimming going on, take the time to read....
713 posted on 12/02/2002 4:41:16 AM PST by .45MAN
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To: AFPhys
...but that opportunity this year is not in passing a conservative agenda, but in solidifying the trend toward a more conservative government which will allow us at some time in the future can pass a conservative agenda, or at least roll back the leftist agenda which has been enacted. That golden opportunity will be squandered by overreaching and expecting too much...

And as long as one county somewhere in the fifty states elects a democrat dogcatcher we will hear more excuses from the gop as to why this lone democrat thwarted their grand plans to restore the Republic to it's Constitutional roots.

democrats = bolsheviks

republicans = mensheviks

Regards

J.R.

714 posted on 12/02/2002 4:48:30 AM PST by NMC EXP
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To: omegab
My favorite was here in Houston when we stuck styrofoam cups in chain link fence and spelled out "Wag the dog" over busy overpass at 5 o'clock (we always got permits).

What a great idea! I'll have to remember that if the opprotunity ever presents itself again...a really inexpensive billboard! LOL!

Keep on FReepin'! We need to show the clueless moron author of this article that he's got his head up his butt.

715 posted on 12/02/2002 4:48:41 AM PST by dansangel
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To: Dan from Michigan
John Ross is one of the only dems I'd vote for.

I don't go hunting for diamonds in cesspools.

716 posted on 12/02/2002 4:57:00 AM PST by strela
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To: billbears
Thanks billbears!
I am just getting back online after a busy Thanksgiving weekend.

CD

717 posted on 12/02/2002 5:12:52 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Texasforever
I think we all have to give President Bush more time to get things made right. It can't be done overnight and so far his strategy has moved the country in the right direction. He told us he was a uniter, not a divider and that has brought more control in the long run to Republicans who can now start to clean up the Clinton mess.

He is applying that same strategy of uniting, not dividing, on the world stage. Slowly, but surely, individual leaders and nations are being exposed for what they are truly about and we the people can react and respond on this good information.

I don't understand some of Bush's statements and seemingly lack of action on some of these issues, but he has earned my trust and I expect in time that they will be put right.

Like Miss Marple, I send pertinant articles to the president's email and ask that he be informed and I spread information at every opportunity. I also pray that God will continue to expose corruption and evil in ALL leaders, in all parties and nations. And I don't expect PERFECT judgement from my president, anymore than God expects it from me, thank goodness.
718 posted on 12/02/2002 5:14:49 AM PST by omegab
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To: omegab
. And I don't expect PERFECT judgement from my president, anymore than God expects it from me, thank goodness.

Oops, I think I should have said I don't DEMAND perfect judgement from the president, anymore than God demands it from me. :-)
719 posted on 12/02/2002 5:20:46 AM PST by omegab
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To: MSCASEY
I am disgusted more people are not taking a stand about issues.

If the employers would take a stand, we wouldn't have this problem. As long as they can find work, they will come. We need to arrest the employers. If you arrest enough of them, it will stop.

720 posted on 12/02/2002 6:10:19 AM PST by AppyPappy
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