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To: WarHawk42
The republicans have a golden oppertunity, but they need to deliver while they have it.  They have no excuse not to.  They have it all.  Yea I already hear we don't have a big enough margine in the senate.  I guess that will be the excuse dejour untill 2004.

I'm sorry that you can not seem to comprehend reality, even you say you know it. The republicans do NOT have the Senate. Even pretending that we don't have Rinos who may end up voting with the Demodogs outright, and pretending that Breaux (sp?) and Miller may be counted as Dinos on many cases for the president, there is virtually nothing that can be done with only 54 Senate votes against concerted opposition. The only hope the President has is that such a stand by the Demodogs will slaughter them at the polls in '04 and '06 and beyond. Any attitude such as you have expressed that he and conservatives can somehow force their will in the Congress in the present circumstances will doom that possibility and any hope of EVER gaining passage of an even modest conservative agenda.

Get used to it: a few items may be able to pass the present Senate, but Lott and the President will have to promise some liberal agenda items be passed, or they will not even get those few done. This IS the way our country works. (Recall that when LBJ passed the horrifying bills that really crucified this country he had something like a 68-32 split in the Senate.) Until there are a sufficient number (read that as 60, for my purposes) of conservatives, not Republicans, in the Senate, very small steps will have to be slowly taken to reverse the political situation in this country.

Anyone who has such unrealistic, overly high expectations, such as those you expressed here, I suspect of being a Demodog (or demagogic libertarian) themselves. It is exactly the tactics which were being employed by D'ashole and the others of his ilk in an attempt to discredit the President by saying 'he failed to do...' when the blame for that was squarely in their lap.

The Republicans do have a golden opportunity, but that opportunity this year is not in passing a conservative agenda, but in solidifying the trend toward a more conservative government which will allow us at some time in the future can pass a conservative agenda, or at least roll back the leftist agenda which has been enacted. That golden opportunity will be squandered by overreaching and expecting too much, and it is exactly what the demodogs (and libertarians) are hoping for.

705 posted on 12/02/2002 4:03:36 AM PST by AFPhys
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To: AFPhys
...but that opportunity this year is not in passing a conservative agenda, but in solidifying the trend toward a more conservative government which will allow us at some time in the future can pass a conservative agenda, or at least roll back the leftist agenda which has been enacted. That golden opportunity will be squandered by overreaching and expecting too much...

And as long as one county somewhere in the fifty states elects a democrat dogcatcher we will hear more excuses from the gop as to why this lone democrat thwarted their grand plans to restore the Republic to it's Constitutional roots.

democrats = bolsheviks

republicans = mensheviks

Regards

J.R.

714 posted on 12/02/2002 4:48:30 AM PST by NMC EXP
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To: AFPhys
I'm sorry that you can not seem to comprehend reality, even you say you know it. The republicans do NOT have the Senate.

Like I said, the excuse dejour until 2004.

Any attitude such as you have expressed that he and conservatives can somehow force their will in the Congress in the present circumstances will doom that possibility and any hope of EVER gaining passage of an even modest conservative agenda.

Now that's funny.  According to your thinking the democrats are still in control.  I guess the last election was a waste of time.   The excuses never stop with you people do they.  I seem to recall Clinton got a lot of what he wanted and he didn't have the congress or the senate for a time.  I takes something called leadership.  Lets see, we have Lott in the senate.  Oh well, so much for leadership.  He is a proven commodity, a real loser.

Anyone who has such unrealistic, overly high expectations, such as those you expressed here, I suspect of being a Demodog (or demagogic libertarian) themselves.

You can suspect anything you like, you are wrong.  But then labels are an excellent way to try and discredit someone.  They must be, people like to use them a lot.:)  I hate to tell you this but there isn't much I haven't been called here on FR.  Yours was pretty lame.

 That golden opportunity will be squandered by overreaching and expecting too much, and it is exactly what the demodogs (and libertarians) are hoping for.

Is closing our borders to illegal immigration over reaching?  Looks to me like that would be welcome not only from republicans but a great number of democrats too.  Oh, I forgot, we are talking amnesty again.  Looks like the "war on terror" is more hype than action don't it?  Home security starts at out borders.  Everything else in the war on terror is a joke until that is done.

You keep on making excuses for them though.  I expect to hear a lot of that.  How many more 9/11's does there have to be before you quit making excuses?

WarHawk42

760 posted on 12/02/2002 11:40:37 AM PST by WarHawk42
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