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Conservatives Dispute Bush Portrayal of Islam as Peaceful
washington post ^ | 11/30/02

Posted on 11/29/2002 9:49:16 PM PST by knak

President Bush finds himself in a rare disagreement with conservatives in his party over his efforts to portray Islam as a peaceful religion that is not responsible for anti-American terrorism.

In a score of speeches since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the president has called for tolerance of Muslims, describing Islam as "a faith based upon peace and love and compassion" and a religion committed to "morality and learning and tolerance."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; religionofpeace; ropma
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To: Jhoffa_
Read the Old Testament lately? Imagine what you could do with that, given a simple enough audience..

A pointless comparison.
Equivalency doesn't work here.

Haven't you noticed that no atrocities have been commited lately in the name of a Christian "God"?

161 posted on 12/01/2002 9:38:52 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Republic of Texas

Hurting my maintenance guy because Muslims attacked the WTC is the most absurd thing I think I ever heard.

It's wrong morally, politically and tactically. It's doomed to failure, but I guess some people are determined to keep repeating history as opposed to learning from it.

162 posted on 12/01/2002 9:40:22 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: AnnaZ
A 'Ohgivemeanf'ingbreak' ping.
163 posted on 12/01/2002 9:40:58 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: AnnaZ
Ohgivemeanf'ingbreak.

You're not buying that either? LOL...

You mean Joos aren't exploding all over the place and killing wholesale and flying airplanes into building?

Why do you quibble over such a small thing... ?

164 posted on 12/01/2002 9:41:16 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: knak
Perhaps it's best the President takes this tone just before slaughtering a million or so of them. "Nothing personal y'all, I know you're real peaceful-like. Just business here..."

Still I don't see how he could get the words out of his mouth. One would think "Islam" and "Peace" would catch in one's throat worse than a pretzel...

165 posted on 12/01/2002 9:41:31 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Hey, Herr Palpatine, I don't like Muslims either. Maybe you should send the Gestapo over to see me as well.

Ironic isn't it? You accuse someone of being a Nazi, while adapting the tactics of Nazi's. Bill Clinton was really good at that also.

166 posted on 12/01/2002 9:43:44 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I guess we should all judge Christianity by the actions of the KKK.

That tactic has already been tried here, Jammal, and it doesn't work.

Back to the talking points book and a new approach...

167 posted on 12/01/2002 9:44:56 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Jhoffa_
I didn't advocate hurting him, I did advocate NOT TRUSTING him. There is a big difference, but you knew that didn't you?
168 posted on 12/01/2002 9:45:07 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Publius6961

Moral equivalency isn't my argument.

I was referring to Islamic "leaders" using Islam as a binder and a vehicle to attain their goals.

Look at Yassir Arafat for example, who would run to his aid if he cried: "Come and help me fight the Jews to provide me with a nice, big palace and millions of dollars! Come my friends and assure me a cushy life while you do mortal combat over bread crumbs!"

Not very inspiring, is it?

169 posted on 12/01/2002 9:45:14 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_

Personally, I don't think these loons are al Queda supporters; but the fact is they are busy carrying their water for them.

170 posted on 12/01/2002 9:46:34 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Jhoffa_
Attacking "Islam" at large will just aid them. Men will do anything to defend their faith, and Osama knows that. Further, he's counting on that.

That won't work either.
Saying that the aggressor is "defending his faith" is such a blatant joke that even normal kids can laugh at that one.

171 posted on 12/01/2002 9:48:37 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Cultural Jihad
I agree.

We were attacked by a handful of guy's. We know who they are, we sent a bunch of them to Allah already and we are hot after the rest.

Osama knows he is in big, big trouble and he would like nothing better than to bring every Muslim on the face of the earth in to do his fighting for him. By drawing a distinction between Islam as a whole and Islamic Terrorists in particular we have denied him the opportunity to do this.

It was a good move tactically, politically and morally.

I fail to see what's so difficult about this for some FReepers.

173 posted on 12/01/2002 9:53:45 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
So please be sure you are better than the Nazi's when you declare "war" on all of Islam for the actions of a few.

Soothing platitudes are a pretty crude (and now useless) means of Psychops.
Apologists are having a hard time coming up with something that doesn't sound pathetically "arab".
When do you haul out the "baby milk factory" and the dead puppies?

174 posted on 12/01/2002 9:54:31 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961

I know it's absurd. But that's what Osama is selling.

It's all he has left. Try to morph our righteous wrath against terrorism into a full blown "attack on Islam by the infidels!"

Put it in the context of an attack on religion as opposed to punishment for a horrible act.

175 posted on 12/01/2002 9:56:49 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Publius6961

What? Hey, look.. some people here have advocated hurting people like Lamonte just because he is a Muslim.

That is no better than targeting Jews in general.

They didn't deserve it then and Lamonte doesn't deserve it now. There is no moral justification for that kind of thing.

177 posted on 12/01/2002 9:59:42 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: AnnaZ
A 'Ohgivemeanf'ingbreak' ping.
178 posted on 12/01/2002 10:00:53 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: MissAmericanPie
Bush has painted a picture of himself as a man with little or no regard or compassion for Americans, much less any understanding of what defines an American. His embracing of the CEO's of terrorism on more than one occassion, his embracing of the abuse of illegal immigration against tax paying Americans, his disregard for our sovereignty. His dam** the torpedo's and the Constitution, full speed ahead to globalism even if you have to step on the face of every American to get there is painted in red. I didn't paint it for him, you didn't paint it for him, but I will not be denied the right to view that picture and draw my own logical conclusions.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Hmmm... I better save this to disk fast, as it's likely to have the thread pulled.
Some folks here frown on attacking the emperor's new clothes...

179 posted on 12/01/2002 10:01:50 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: Anticommie
Tribal justice is alive and well, eh?
180 posted on 12/01/2002 10:01:59 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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