Pound sand....damnyankee scum! We ain't taking it down!
Posted on 11/29/2002 7:57:37 AM PST by End The Hypocrisy
Three MAJOR civil war cinema epics are due in 2003. 1) Robert Duvall plays Robert E. Lee in Gods & Generals, out Feb. 21; 2) Jude Law portrays a jaded confederate in Cold Mountain, due Dec. 25, 2003; and 3) Tom Cruise plays a Civil War veteran who witnesses the end of a Japanese culture in The Last Samurai, due Dec. 12, 2003. Gods & Generals is replete with special effects, although director Maxwell still used more than 10,000 extras to re-create battle scenes.
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Stop making assumptions...it undermines the rest of your statement. With that said...perhaps you should address that person with your point and not me.
"However, Old Glory as well flies quite visibly at every Klan rally I've seen on TV or in print."
....and? Does the hillbilly flag fly from the deck of the USS Nimitz? At Camp Lejeune? Old Glory flies in those places. Dont put out asinine examples that mean zero in this discussion.
"I of course consider Old Glory my first flag. It flies off my front porch and sticks on the back of every vehicle I own as well as windows of my offices."
I of course do not care what you personally consider. If you are American then by default old glory should be your first flag.
"The Battle Flag along with other Southern stuff is for me personally part of my heritage. My ancestors died in that war and I don'tintend to abandon their memory..."
Oh please...
Give it a rest. I dont see you whining over wanting to fly a french, German, British, Indian Nation, Dutch, Portugese, etc, etc. flag. Your heritage certanly comes from a foreign place and your ancestors certainly died in some far flung conflict for them. Zeal for one is zeal for all. No...something else motivates you...or your motivation is shallow.
"If you are not Southern, then why is it your business?"
I told you about assumption.
"I tell the do-gooders constantly on this forum that when the "who's racially sensitive enough for our criteria" Gestapo are thru exploiting Southern sensitivities that they will come for the rest of you."
Grow up.
Pound sand....damnyankee scum! We ain't taking it down!
I thought it was 3%...and don't forget free blacks owned slaves also...
LOL...Sounds French in it's anti-reality zeal. Attaquezz!!
Hahaha...
We already made you take it down [by force]. ~Grin~
This from a guy who posts pictures of tanks...
We decided to put it back up, boy. What you gonna do about it?
HaHaHa.....{grin}. Take that you blue zone socialist puke.
New Englanders were involved in the West Indian slave trade in the 18th century, but most slaves were brought here by English ships, with Dutch, Spanish and Portugese slavers coming as well. That was all the more true after the Atlantic slave trade was made illegal in 1807/8. Southerners maintained a vigorous internal slave traffic after that date, though.
Grant did briefly own a slave, inherited from his wife's family, but Grant freed him in 1859. Mrs. Grant also inherited slaves, but there is no way they have kept a slave "for two years after the war," since the 13th Amendment banning slavery was ratified well before the end of that period. More here.
Your quotation is an absolute fabrication. It's source is a "Democratic Fact-book" concocted by Grant's political opponents during the 1868 campaign for the Presidency. No reputable scholar has ever endorsed it as valid.
South Carolina seceded before Lincoln became President. In the campaign, Lincoln affirmed that he would do nothing to threaten slavery where it already existed. This was not enough for South Carolina elites, who still felt that limitations on the expansion of slavery to new areas threatened the basis of their society.
I also have to question whether "people were citizens of their respective sovereign States" before the Civil War, and "subjects of a tyrannical Federal government that has gradually grown into the monster it is today" afterwards. South Carolinians in 1861 were South Carolinians first and foremost. The same was probably true of Virginians, but most Northerners thought differently. And if you'd asked the question in 1812 or 1820 or 1846, you'd find the Southerners more adamant about being Americans and citizens of the US than many New Englanders.
And it's that "gradually" that's the important word. The Civil War happened 140 years ago. The substantial growth of the federal government didn't really start until Theodore Roosevelt, and didn't really take off until Franklin D. Roosevelt. Had the Confederacy won, we'd surely find as many things to complain about today.
I'm for the 1st amendment so, I won't hit the abuse button...BTW...as a former jarhead myself (VietNam class of 68) you are acting like a jerk...so shape up
It was my understanding that he is filming the lead role in Catch me if you can, which is a GREAT book if you can find it..
I was absolutely shocked when I found out they wanted him. (the lead character looked OLDER than he was, and thus was able to portray himself as a Pan-Am pilot, Doctor, Lawyer, etc..)
Pookie & ME
OK you are a jerk...your own rants prove it...
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