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Academy seizes computers from nearly 100 mids (Drudge Talking About This Next)
Annapolis Capitol Gazzette ^ | JESSICA R. TOWHEY, Staff Writer

Posted on 11/24/2002 7:20:06 PM PST by Doctor Raoul

Academy seizes computers from nearly 100 mids
By JESSICA R. TOWHEY, Staff Writer

Officials at the Naval Academy have seized nearly 100 midshipmen's computers that allegedly contained illegally downloaded music and movies, sources said.

The raid occurred Thursday while students were in class, and a source familiar with the investigation said the computers were being held by the administration.

Cmdr. Bill Spann, academy spokesman, confirmed that an investigation into what material is on the computers is under way, but declined further comment.

He did say punishment for illegally possessing copyrighted material ranges from a court-martial to loss of leave and other restrictions.

Computers are given to each midshipman upon entering the academy. During their four years at the school, mids pay back the value of the computers through deductions from their monthly paychecks.

Amanda Collins, a spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America, said yesterday that the Naval Academy was among the colleges and universities around the country that were sent two letters from entertainment industry and educational associations asking them to address Internet piracy and establish policies against it.

An Oct. 3 letter signed by four entertainment-based lobbying associations spelled out that Internet copyright infringement violates federal copyright laws.

"`Theft' is a harsh word, but that it is, pure and simple," the letter stated. "... It is no different from walking into the campus bookstore and in a clandestine manner walking out with a textbook without paying for it."

The recording industry estimates that more than 2.6 billion music files are downloaded illegally each month, usually through unlicensed services.

CD sales fell more than 5 percent in 2001 and dipped another 1 percent in the first half of this year, according to the RIAA.

Some of the recording industry's biggest stars, such as Madonna, Mick Jagger and Eminem, have joined coalitions to combat the wholesale theft of music. The industry claims this threatens the livelihood of everyone from artists, songwriters and manufacturers to sound engineers and record-store owners and clerks.




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To: NOLA_homebrewer; beowolf
USMCJ is correct. Also, if you are on military property, even though you may have purchased something, doesn't allow you to use it any way you feel like it. I am going to follow this story up to see what they were looking for and other details, sadly lacking in the article.
41 posted on 11/25/2002 4:21:17 PM PST by TheLion
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To: A CA Guy
Why pick on our service men?

If it is in their computers, delete it and the program that runs it and tell them NOT to do that again.

That should be all that is done and then it should be over.

DAMN good idea. Finaly someone who understands the real world.

Thank you.

BigMack

43 posted on 11/25/2002 4:27:35 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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To: quietolong
And they charge $15-20 for CD with music from the 70s, 60s, 50s,... What a rip off.

I just hope they never do some retroactive punishment for all those who used tape recorders to copy music back in the 60s and 70s. I remember my dad copying music with a reel to reel tape player. I don't see the big deal they're making about copying CDs now because people have been copying music for decades now.

44 posted on 11/25/2002 4:29:35 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Doctor Raoul; KevinDavis; struwwelpeter; A CA Guy; lizma; JMack; ikka; quietolong; freebilly; ...
Here are two more articles I found on this event.

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,56574,00.html

Pirates of the U.S. Naval Academy

By Noah Shachtman | Also by this reporter Page 1 of 1

02:35 PM Nov. 25, 2002 PT

A warning to those training to fight for your country: Don't you dare download any MP3s.

The U.S. Naval Academy has confiscated the computers of about 100 midshipmen who allegedly have pirated music and movies on their hard drives. The Annapolis students could face punishment up to a court-martial if they are found to have the copyrighted material illegally, according to academy spokesman Commander Bill Spann.

To some, such a punishment definitely outweighs the crime.

"Their careers are in peril because they may have shared copyrighted works," said Fred von Lohmann, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "It doesn't seem like a proportional response. And it doesn't help get artists paid, or give consumers what they want, either."

File sharing has been going on for years at the academy. But in the past, midshipmen caught swapping would get little more than a "slap on the wrist," according to a recent academy graduate posting to a Slashdot forum.

In October, the Recording Industry Association of America and three other entertainment groups sent a letter to 2,300 colleges and universities -- including the Naval Academy -- urging the schools to "impose effective remedies against violators" of copyright law.

File sharing "is no different from walking into the campus bookstore and in a clandestine manner walking out with a textbook without paying for it," the letter reads. "'Theft' is a harsh word, but that it is, pure and simple."

Last week, academy officials confiscated the student computers suspected of containing the unauthorized files while their owners were in class, Spann said.

The RIAA says it had nothing to do with the action in Annapolis.

"We appreciate institutions who take intellectual property theft seriously," wrote an RIAA spokeswoman in an e-mail. "However, we do not dictate what their enforcement policies should be, and, in this particular instance, we do not know the facts of the case."

But the seizure could be helpful to the trade group by showing other schools that "they have a right and responsibility to do the same thing," said Aram Sinnreich, an independent music analyst affiliated with the University of Southern California.

Schools have clamped down on file sharing. Earlier this year, officials at USC warned students that they could be kicked off the school's network if they were caught trading copyrighted materials online.

But, for the most part, universities have turned a blind eye to such swapping -- unless entertainment companies ask them to intervene.

"There's no university policy that restricts file sharing," said Brian Voss, associate vice president for telecommunications at Indiana University. "We try to provide as rich an IT environment as possible here. Because what's recreational today, tomorrow is pedagogical."

Oregon State University also makes no moves to keep students from sharing files on college-owned networks. But the school does receive a letter or two per month from antipiracy outfits like MediaForce, acting on behalf of the showbiz conglomerates, that tattle on individual students sharing copyrighted materials.

According to residential computing manager Chris White, Oregon State addresses such complaints by turning off the student's Internet connection, giving him or her a tongue lashing, removing the file from the network and plugging the student back in.

It's unlikely that Navy midshipmen, expected to adhere to a less forgiving code of conduct, will get off that easy.




And This one:



http://news.com.com/2100-1023-971130.html


Navy cracks down on student pirates


By Lisa M. Bowman
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
November 25, 2002, 8:53 AM PT


The U.S. Naval Academy has seized about 100 student computers that are suspected of containing unauthorized copies of copyrighted works.
The students were in class on Thursday when the raid occurred, according to an academy representative, who would not elaborate on other details of the investigation.

Each student gets a computer when they enter the academy. Illegal possession of copyrighted material could carry punishment including court-martial or a loss of leave, according to academy policy.

The seizure comes just a few weeks after movie and music industry trade groups sent a letter to more than 2,000 university and college presidents across the country, including officials at the Naval Academy, requesting help in cracking down on unauthorized file swapping.

In the October letter, the Recording Industry Association of America, the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) and other industry groups warned university officials that some students were using school networks to illegally trade copyrighted materials.

"Students must know that if they pirate copyrighted works they are subject to legal liability," the trade groups wrote. "It is no different from walking into the campus bookstore and in a clandestine manner walking out with a textbook without paying for it."

Colleges have become a hotbed for file-trading in recent years, partly because so many offer speedy Internet connections and partly because students tend to be avid music fans.

As a result, the entertainment industry has issued several warnings to universities. Last year, the MPAA and smaller copyright holders sent cease-and-desist letters to schools warning them about violations using school networks. In Napster's heyday, several colleges were the target of lawsuits brought by Metallica and Dr. Dre, who claimed the schools allowed people to trade unauthorized copies of their music illegally.

Universities have dealt with the warnings in a wide variety of ways. Some have taken a hands-off approach to student activities. Others have adopted bandwidth management tools to block or restrict file swapping.
45 posted on 11/25/2002 7:19:12 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
Thanks, excellent post.
46 posted on 11/25/2002 7:36:56 PM PST by freebilly
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To: freebilly
I expect this to become a huge story if anyone is discharged.
47 posted on 11/25/2002 7:41:29 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Richard Kimball
They get busted for stuff that's totally ignored on other campuses. It's the old "higher standard" thing. How many Berkley students you think would get busted if they checked all their computers for illegal music files?

Too bad those higher standards don't apply to football--

Last weekend they got destroyed by Connecticut, my alma mater, 38-0. This week Wake Forest beat Navy 30-27. Overall Navy's record this season is 1-10. They haven't won a home game in 3 years.

But apparently they excel at downloading MP3's....

48 posted on 11/25/2002 7:57:00 PM PST by freebilly
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To: NOLA_homebrewer
Hello Navy Grad,

I think this is much ado about...well, not much. Here is what will happen. USNA JAG will review the legal issues for the Supe who will put the word out to deal with this quickly and reasonably.

No one will be seriously punished. A few demerits (do they still have them there?) just so the Academy can say that those violators were punished, and then move on.

If, as you wrote the sweep was conducted by Midshipmen goon squads, then all I can say is those guys need to get a life.

Of course we had that mentality at Woops. We called these anal retentive fools "Teds."

-A grad from a real Military Academy, not just an imitation.
49 posted on 11/25/2002 7:58:31 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: TheLion
It will be a mistake, IMHO, to dismiss any middies over this. Yes, it is a violation of the honor code, but in the overall scheme of things it's a pimple on a hippo's butt.

They should be held to a higher standard, but expulsion is ridiculous....

50 posted on 11/25/2002 8:05:58 PM PST by freebilly
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To: freebilly
Hopefully some more facts will come out on this.
51 posted on 11/25/2002 8:08:06 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
Drudge has an update, but no new info of any significance has been added.
52 posted on 11/25/2002 8:10:58 PM PST by freebilly
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To: TheLion
From the article you posted:

The RIAA says it had nothing to do with the action in Annapolis.

From the first article at the top of this thread:

Amanda Collins, a spokesman for the Recording Industry Association of America, said yesterday that the Naval Academy was among the colleges and universities around the country that were sent two letters from entertainment industry and educational associations asking them to address Internet piracy and establish policies against it.

Isn't the RIAA an "entertainment industry association"?

53 posted on 11/25/2002 8:12:36 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: freebilly
I checked Naval Academy press releases, etc. Nothing.
54 posted on 11/25/2002 8:12:52 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Poohbah
Our service men have more important things to do than serve time for downloading millie vinille!
55 posted on 11/25/2002 8:13:15 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Yes, the RIAA is a recording industry association. Sort of confusing...obviously the RIAA was involved.
56 posted on 11/25/2002 8:18:36 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
...obviously the RIAA was involved.

Of that I have not doubt, whatsoever. I knew it was a lie as soon as I read the line, "The RIAA says it had nothing to do with the action in Annapolis."

57 posted on 11/25/2002 8:23:39 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Doctor Raoul
Most college students and working professionals I know regularly download not simply music and movies but software too.

To expel the best of the best of America's men and women who want to serve this nation, just to placate Hollywood's fudgepacking media elites, is simply despicable.

I will be in Maryland in December. Anyone want to join me in FReeping the bastard Administrators at the Academy for even thinking about doing this?

59 posted on 11/25/2002 9:51:32 PM PST by montag813
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To: TheLion
Thanks for the follow up research articles.

I am of two minds on this subject.

First there is the precept that honor must be absolute because that is the 'backbone' of being able to command. Second, these are still 18 year old kids simply down-loading music.

I KNOW that they HAVE to learn consequences because that is the sum total of command, but in all honesty, the proposed punishment is too harsh and will serve as no 'example' for other middies.

60 posted on 11/25/2002 10:52:31 PM PST by beowolf
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