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God Is the Machine
Wired ^ | December 2002 | Kevin Kelly

Posted on 11/21/2002 8:14:40 PM PST by FreetheSouth!

God Is the Machine

IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS 0. AND THEN THERE WAS 1. A MIND-BENDING MEDITATION ON THE TRANSCENDENT POWER OF DIGITAL COMPUTATION

At today's rates of compression, you could download the entire 3 billion digits of your DNA onto about four CDs. That 3-gigabyte genome sequence represents the prime coding information of a human body — your life as numbers. Biology, that pulsating mass of plant and animal flesh, is conceived by science today as an information process. As computers keep shrinking, we can imagine our complex bodies being numerically condensed to the size of two tiny cells. These micro-memory devices are called the egg and sperm. They are packed with information.

That life might be information, as biologists propose, is far more intuitive than the corresponding idea that hard matter is information as well. When we bang a knee against a table leg, it sure doesn't feel like we knocked into information. But that's the idea many physicists are formulating.

The spooky nature of material things is not new. Once science examined matter below the level of fleeting quarks and muons, it knew the world was incorporeal. What could be less substantial than a realm built out of waves of quantum probabilities? And what could be weirder? Digital physics is both. It suggests that those strange and insubstantial quantum wavicles, along with everything else in the universe, are themselves made of nothing but 1s and 0s. The physical world itself is digital.

The scientist John Archibald Wheeler (coiner of the term "black hole") was onto this in the '80s. He claimed that, fundamentally, atoms are made up of of bits of information. As he put it in a 1989 lecture, "Its are from bits." He elaborated: "Every it — every particle, every field of force, even the space-time continuum itself — derives its function, its meaning, its very existence entirely from binary choices, bits. What we call reality arises in the last analysis from the posing of yes/no questions."

To get a sense of the challenge of describing physics as a software program, picture three atoms: two hydrogen and one oxygen. Put on the magic glasses of digital physics and watch as the three atoms bind together to form a water molecule. As they merge, each seems to be calculating the optimal angle and distance at which to attach itself to the others. The oxygen atom uses yes/no decisions to evaluate all possible courses toward the hydrogen atom, then usually selects the optimal 104.45 degrees by moving toward the other hydrogen at that very angle. Every chemical bond is thus calculated.

If this sounds like a simulation of physics, then you understand perfectly, because in a world made up of bits, physics is exactly the same as a simulation of physics. There's no difference in kind, just in degree of exactness. In the movie The Matrix, simulations are so good you can't tell if you're in one. In a universe run on bits, everything is a simulation.

An ultimate simulation needs an ultimate computer, and the new science of digitalism says that the universe itself is the ultimate computer — actually the only computer. Further, it says, all the computation of the human world, especially our puny little PCs, merely piggybacks on cycles of the great computer. Weaving together the esoteric teachings of quantum physics with the latest theories in computer science, pioneering digital thinkers are outlining a way of understanding all of physics as a form of computation.

From this perspective, computation seems almost a theological process. It takes as its fodder the primeval choice between yes or no, the fundamental state of 1 or 0. After stripping away all externalities, all material embellishments, what remains is the purest state of existence: here/not here. Am/not am. In the Old Testament, when Moses asks the Creator, "Who are you?" the being says, in effect, "Am." One bit. One almighty bit. Yes. One. Exist. It is the simplest statement possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at wired.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alanturing; computers; digitalcomputation; edfredkin; god; isaacasimov; stephenwolfram
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To: Terriergal
I’m glad to see that this thread has some meaningful discussion and did not (so far) devolve into a flame war. That was my biggest fear when I posted it. It gave me some new concepts to ponder and thought others might be interested enough to ponder on these selfsame thoughts.

With that said - ponder away!

81 posted on 11/24/2002 12:54:11 PM PST by FreetheSouth!
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To: Matchett-PI; stuartcr
stuartcr is a regular on Christian threads..in the year+ I have posted to him on and off I notice he likes to divert and change the topic to his search .My thought is 16 and playing on Dads computer..

Nothing against you stu..but MPI is a busy person ..I am just trying to save her some time .

82 posted on 11/24/2002 1:00:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: nobdysfool
FAH! I'm emailing this to 3 people. Did you write it yourself?
83 posted on 11/24/2002 3:00:34 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Abcdefg
IMHO, there is only analog pretending to be digital.

Maybe existence is an a/d converter.

84 posted on 11/24/2002 3:07:31 PM PST by js1138
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
You have explained salvation very cleary to those that would listen -- but many have deaf ears. One of the problems with modern man is that he believes he can explain those things which are beyond our comprehension.

God has told us in the Bible that his thoughts are above our thoughts (Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. (Whole Chapter: Isaiah 55 In context: Isaiah 55:7-9)).

We must accept Christ through faith that he gave his life on the cross to so that we might have eternel life.

85 posted on 11/24/2002 3:22:42 PM PST by Retiredforever
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
As usual, I didn't spell check my comment to you -- I meant "eternal", not "eternel".
86 posted on 11/24/2002 3:30:07 PM PST by Retiredforever
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To: FreetheSouth!
The Universe is just a figment of God's imagination.
87 posted on 11/24/2002 3:50:21 PM PST by ocean
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Did you write it yourself?

I wish I could claim credit for it...I don't even remember where I found it...I saved it because I thought it was pretty funny, and it seemd to fit this thread to a "T".

88 posted on 11/24/2002 7:31:51 PM PST by nobdysfool
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To: js1138
When it is all said and done, yes. An alive/(to)dead convertor.;^)
89 posted on 11/24/2002 8:08:20 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
yes but on CD's the pits are still recorded as algorythms of zero's and ones via pits or (heat discolored dye pits as on cdrs)...not continuous wavy lines as on records and tapes.....besides my post was meant to be a humorous(and affectionate) look at my analogphile, audiophile friends.
90 posted on 11/25/2002 2:19:09 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: FreetheSouth!
Interesting article, thanks for the post.
91 posted on 11/25/2002 2:49:33 AM PST by PGalt
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To: RnMomof7
She can't be too busy if she's here with all of us. Perhaps she would like to speak for herself, after all, she did send that last out to a bunch of people. Your thoughts are not very becoming.
92 posted on 11/25/2002 9:26:06 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Matchett-PI
lol!
93 posted on 11/25/2002 10:51:08 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: Matchett-PI
Those who wish to be reformatted.
94 posted on 11/25/2002 10:52:44 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: stuartcr
You do too understand what I mean by choosing God. Don't play stupid just so you can say you only asked questions. You can be just as irritating and patronizing when asking questions as many are when stating their opinions.
95 posted on 11/25/2002 10:54:54 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: stuartcr
I agree. (you did notice I said that already) So why are you asking us to do that?
96 posted on 11/25/2002 10:56:13 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: stuartcr
What exactly is the Socratic method, I'm not familiar with this?

That's the biggest load of BS I've heard all day!

You're pretty transparent, you know.

But if you really must know, it's pretty easy to do a web search and find the knowledge for yourself.

OH wait a minute... I forgot, you're not interested in educating yourself, just in needling and patronizing people you disagree with.

97 posted on 11/25/2002 10:58:20 AM PST by Terriergal
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To: Matchett-PI
I've been reformatted. I've gone harmonic.
98 posted on 11/25/2002 11:44:11 AM PST by JesseShurun
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To: stuartcr
What would happen, as I walk across the wood floor, if the atoms of the sole of my feet REALLY DID actually touch the atoms of the wooden floor?

I am under the impression that we never really touch anything. We merely sense the strong and weak forces.
99 posted on 11/25/2002 12:34:28 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: Terriergal
Sorry, I didn't realize I was irritating. You say to choose God. I really don't understand what that means? How do you choose what is there regardless of what you believe? Do Jewish people choose God, Muslims, Christians, non-Christians. What does it mean to choose God? I believe in God, but I am not a Christian, have I chosen God?
100 posted on 11/25/2002 12:44:04 PM PST by stuartcr
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