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God Is the Machine
Wired ^ | December 2002 | Kevin Kelly

Posted on 11/21/2002 8:14:40 PM PST by FreetheSouth!

God Is the Machine

IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS 0. AND THEN THERE WAS 1. A MIND-BENDING MEDITATION ON THE TRANSCENDENT POWER OF DIGITAL COMPUTATION

At today's rates of compression, you could download the entire 3 billion digits of your DNA onto about four CDs. That 3-gigabyte genome sequence represents the prime coding information of a human body — your life as numbers. Biology, that pulsating mass of plant and animal flesh, is conceived by science today as an information process. As computers keep shrinking, we can imagine our complex bodies being numerically condensed to the size of two tiny cells. These micro-memory devices are called the egg and sperm. They are packed with information.

That life might be information, as biologists propose, is far more intuitive than the corresponding idea that hard matter is information as well. When we bang a knee against a table leg, it sure doesn't feel like we knocked into information. But that's the idea many physicists are formulating.

The spooky nature of material things is not new. Once science examined matter below the level of fleeting quarks and muons, it knew the world was incorporeal. What could be less substantial than a realm built out of waves of quantum probabilities? And what could be weirder? Digital physics is both. It suggests that those strange and insubstantial quantum wavicles, along with everything else in the universe, are themselves made of nothing but 1s and 0s. The physical world itself is digital.

The scientist John Archibald Wheeler (coiner of the term "black hole") was onto this in the '80s. He claimed that, fundamentally, atoms are made up of of bits of information. As he put it in a 1989 lecture, "Its are from bits." He elaborated: "Every it — every particle, every field of force, even the space-time continuum itself — derives its function, its meaning, its very existence entirely from binary choices, bits. What we call reality arises in the last analysis from the posing of yes/no questions."

To get a sense of the challenge of describing physics as a software program, picture three atoms: two hydrogen and one oxygen. Put on the magic glasses of digital physics and watch as the three atoms bind together to form a water molecule. As they merge, each seems to be calculating the optimal angle and distance at which to attach itself to the others. The oxygen atom uses yes/no decisions to evaluate all possible courses toward the hydrogen atom, then usually selects the optimal 104.45 degrees by moving toward the other hydrogen at that very angle. Every chemical bond is thus calculated.

If this sounds like a simulation of physics, then you understand perfectly, because in a world made up of bits, physics is exactly the same as a simulation of physics. There's no difference in kind, just in degree of exactness. In the movie The Matrix, simulations are so good you can't tell if you're in one. In a universe run on bits, everything is a simulation.

An ultimate simulation needs an ultimate computer, and the new science of digitalism says that the universe itself is the ultimate computer — actually the only computer. Further, it says, all the computation of the human world, especially our puny little PCs, merely piggybacks on cycles of the great computer. Weaving together the esoteric teachings of quantum physics with the latest theories in computer science, pioneering digital thinkers are outlining a way of understanding all of physics as a form of computation.

From this perspective, computation seems almost a theological process. It takes as its fodder the primeval choice between yes or no, the fundamental state of 1 or 0. After stripping away all externalities, all material embellishments, what remains is the purest state of existence: here/not here. Am/not am. In the Old Testament, when Moses asks the Creator, "Who are you?" the being says, in effect, "Am." One bit. One almighty bit. Yes. One. Exist. It is the simplest statement possible.

(Excerpt) Read more at wired.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: alanturing; computers; digitalcomputation; edfredkin; god; isaacasimov; stephenwolfram
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To: tortoise
What the heck is "perfect logic"? Yeah... I definitely see the flaw in that. Logic is just... logic.

I guess it would be better just to stick with the "his thoughts are higher than our thoughts and his ways are above our ways" what since it's been around for several thousand years!

How about "humans don't consistently exercise logic, whereas God does."

61 posted on 11/23/2002 7:48:03 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: tortoise
Logic isn't hard.

OH, but it is, for many people. Logic and its by-product, consistency, makes each of us look at our own faults and people really hate that. Being illogical and irrational is far more comfortable.

62 posted on 11/23/2002 7:52:12 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: RnMomof7
You are predestined before you were born..Is micro managing knowing how many hairs will be on your hair brush tomorrow?

Nope!

Like I said, predestination for me is an academic study, of little practical value.... unless one wants to start using it as an excuse not to "Preach the Gospel at all times. If necessary use words." St. Francis of Assisi .

63 posted on 11/23/2002 8:56:58 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal; RnMomof7
predestination for me is...of little practical value.

Seems to me, to acknowledge God's complete sovereignty is both pragmatic and comforting.

64 posted on 11/24/2002 12:30:30 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: Abcdefg
My gracious the universe is digital....what will the analog sound loving audiophiles(who hate digital sound) think and do now....?Demand that God make a vacuum tube version of the universe?(reality with a warmer bass sound!)
65 posted on 11/24/2002 1:30:30 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Terriergal
Let me tell you why it is a bit more than academic study..

1) It was what Paul believed and taught

2)It is what Peter believed and taught

3 It is what Jesus taught

4) It is VERY humbling to know that it is not about you

5) It exhaults God ...and that really is reason 1

One does not need to believe it to be saved..but truth is always truth..and Jesus is the truth

Have a blessed Sunday

66 posted on 11/24/2002 5:28:37 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Hey Dr. E I was just thinking about you yesterday..you have been VERY quiet as of late
67 posted on 11/24/2002 5:30:01 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: mdmathis6
When we record digital, we must use an analog media. It seems to me that transistors are turned on and off, but must go thru a short transition that is neither one nor zero but a rising or falling voltage or current level.
Magnetic media: it is doughtful that we ever fully saturate the tape. Is every magnetic particle on the tape fully aligned? What about the transitions between the ones and zeros?
It seems the available media is what prevents us from achieving true digital and why we use analog to imitate it.
Even vacuum tubes can be saturated fully on or off, but can we get around the rise and fall times that are in the realm of analog?
68 posted on 11/24/2002 6:11:00 AM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg
Uh oh, brain fart. "Even vacuum tubes can be saturated fully on or off" should have been "can be turned on or off like a transistor".
69 posted on 11/24/2002 6:52:39 AM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Terriergal
What exactly is the Socratic method, I'm not familiar with this?
70 posted on 11/24/2002 6:56:53 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Terriergal
I demand no proof of God from anyone. My belief in God is impossible to prove, and cannot be substantiated.
71 posted on 11/24/2002 6:58:55 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: tortoise
Please see #50. You believe that logic is not bound by science or the universe? What is logic bound by? Are you privy to some kind of logic that is beyond human comprehension? You're the first person to state that. Why do you think I would rather not accept that God is beyond our logic? I have no problem with the fact that God cannot be described/defined logically. How is math broken?
72 posted on 11/24/2002 7:06:32 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Terriergal
I also do not understand what you mean by choosing God? God is, there is no choice involved.
73 posted on 11/24/2002 7:09:21 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: FreetheSouth!
In the beginning there was the computer.
And God said,
c:\>Let there be light
Enter user id.
Enter password.
c:\>Omniscient
Password incorrect. Try again.
c:\>Omnipotent
Password incorrect. Try again.
c:\>Technocrat
And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Sunday, March 1.
c:\>Let there be light
Unrecognizable command. Try again.
c:\>Create light
Done
c:\>Run heaven and earth
And God created Day and Night. And God saw there were 0 errors.
And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Sunday, March 1.
And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Monday, March 2.
c:\>Let there be firmament in the midst of water and light
Unrecognizable command. Try again.
c:\>Create firmament
Done.
c:\>Run firmament
And God divided the waters. And God saw there were 0 errors.
And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Monday, March 2.
And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Tuesday, March 3.
c:\>Let the waters under heaven be gathered together unto one place and
let the dry land appear and...
Too many characters in specification string. Try again.
c:\>Create dry_land
Done.
c:\>Run firmament
And God divided the waters. And God saw there were 0 errors.
And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Tuesday, March 3.
And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Wednesday, March 4.
c:\>Create lights in the firmament to divide the day from the night
Unspecified type. Try again.
c:\>Create sun_moon_stars
Done
c:\>Run sun_moon_stars
And God divided the waters. And God saw there were 0 errors.
And God logged off at 12:02:00 AM, Wednesday, March 4.
And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Thursday, March 5.
c:\>Create fish
Done
c:\>Create fowl
Done
c:\>Run fish, fowl
And God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that
creepeth wherewith the waters swarmed after its kind and every winged fowl
after its kind. And God saw there were 0 errors.
And God logged on at 12:01:00 AM, Friday, March 6.
c:\>Create cattle
Done
c:\>Create creepy_things
Done
c:\>Now let us make man in our image
Unspecified type. Try again.
c:\>Create man
Done
c:\>Be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth and subdue it and
have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air and
over every living thing that creepeth upon the earth
Too many command operands. Try again.
c:\>Run multiplication
Execution terminated. 6 errors.
c:\>Insert breath
Done
c:\>Run multiplication
Execution terminated. 5 errors.
c:\>Move man to Garden of Eden
File Garden of Eden does not exist.
c:\>Create Garden.edn
Done
c:\>Move man to Garden.edn
Done
c:\>Run multiplication
Execution terminated. 4 errors.
c:\>Copy woman from man
Done
c:\>Run multiplication
Execution terminated. 2 errors.
c:\>Create desire
Done
c:\>Run multiplication
And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in Garden.edn
Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors.
c:\>Create freewill
Done
c:\>Run freewill
And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in Garden.edn
Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors.
c:\>Undo desire
Desire cannot be undone once freewill is created.
c:\>Destroy freewill
Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed.
Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help.
c:\>Help
Desire cannot be undone once freewill is created.
Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed.
Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help.
c:\>Create tree_of_knowledge
And God saw man and woman being fruitful and multiplying in Garden.edn
Warning: No time limit on this run. 1 errors.
c:\>Create good, evil
Done
c:\>Activate evil
And God saw he had created shame.
Warning system error in sector E95. Man and woman not in Garden.edn.
1 errors.
c:\>Scan Garden.edn for man, woman
Search failed.
c:\>Delete shame
Shame cannot be deleted once evil has been activated.
c:\>Destroy freewill
Freewill is an inaccessible file and cannot be destroyed.
Enter replacement, cancel, or ask for help.
c:\>Stop
Unrecognizable command. Try again
c:\>Break
c:\>Break
c:\>Break
ATTENTION ALL USERS *** ATTENTION ALL USERS:
COMPUTER GOING DOWN FOR REGULAR DAY OF
MAINTENANCE AND REST IN FIVE MINUTES. PLEASE LOG OFF.
c:\>Create new world
You have exceeded your allocated file space. You must destroy old files
before new ones can be created.
c:\>Destroy earth
Destroy earth: Please confirm.
c:\>Destroy earth confirmed
COMPUTER DOWN *** COMPUTER DOWN.
SERVICES WILL RESUME SUNDAY, MARCH 8 AT 6:00 AM.
YOU MUST SIGN OFF NOW.

And God logged off at 11:59:59 PM, Friday, March 6.


74 posted on 11/24/2002 10:04:46 AM PST by nobdysfool
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To: RnMomof7; Frumanchu; the_doc; Jean Chauvin; xzins
Bump! I got a laugh out of this, but then again, I'm a computer tech....
75 posted on 11/24/2002 10:07:37 AM PST by nobdysfool
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To: nobdysfool
I will copy for engineer son..thanks
76 posted on 11/24/2002 10:16:57 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Terriergal; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M; the_doc; CCWoody; JesseShurun; gdebrae; Jean Chauvin; ...
"....I'm not a [Biblical Christian]!" "...hopefully we are slowly being reformatted ..."

Who are the "we" to which you refer?

77 posted on 11/24/2002 10:34:49 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: stuartcr; Terriergal; RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M; the_doc; CCWoody; JesseShurun; ...
"I demand no proof of God from anyone. My belief in God is impossible to prove, and cannot be substantiated."

Do you believe that others (beside yourself) have minds? Explain how you know they aren't robots.

"What exactly is the Socratic method, I'm not familiar with this?"

It's a method of questioning people, which elicits answers from them that reveals their hidden ignorance about what are essentially foregone conclusions / presuppositions any rational human being knows he has a right to hold. LOL

78 posted on 11/24/2002 11:04:28 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Matchett-PI
I can explain nothing about other people, I'm trying to learn, that's why I ask questions. Thanks, I'll try to remember the Socratic thing, as I'm not very well read on philosophy.
79 posted on 11/24/2002 12:31:18 PM PST by stuartcr
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To: FreetheSouth!
The man who invented the computer
Was from a place called MIT.
He punched out cards and tapes by the yards
Humming "Nearer My God to Thee."

Bob Gibson & Bob Camp circa 1961
80 posted on 11/24/2002 12:40:32 PM PST by BRO68
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