Next GOP salvo: Late-term abortion

New York Daily News ^ | 11/20/02 | Zev Chafets

[Tall_Texan]

First of all, liberals will mischaracterize this as "choice" the very same way they have mis-stated the issue for every other hideous idea associated with abortion. Surely NARAL, NOW, Planned Parenthood, People for the American Way, etc. will put them up to it if they don't have the backbone to do it themselves. And you can bet Ms. Pelosi and Ms. Clinton will be at the forefront, standard-bearers for liberal womanhood that they are.

Secondly, the Republicans would be smarter to get their judicial nominations passed first and handle any Supreme Court vacancies that materialize before bringing this bill up for a vote in the Senate. This would allow the issue to not be as great a lightning rod for liberal backlash.

Finally, I suspect any bill Congress passes will be struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court as "vague" just as they did with the Nebraska law. The only hope of changing that equation would be with a new justice or two on the bench. The nine we have now have already spoken on the matter and I'm hesitant to believe any will change their minds, no matter how the law is worded.

[Credo]

Anybody want to lay some odds on what is going to happen with the Supreme Court over the next 2 years.

I think O'Connor and Rehnquist will retire. Possibly Stevens or Ginsburg will to due to health.

I think the Nebraska law did not contain any life of the mother provisions. If that is included, I do not see the Supreme Court striking it down. It could be argued ( and I would agree wholeheartedly) how does a PBA help the health and life of the mother, but I think a PBA like Nebraska with the pertinent objections removed would be a giant 1st step.

If Congress does that and the abortion crowd still shrieks, they'll demontrate they are supporters of infanticide.

[Psalm 73]

This may be America's last chance.
Like the ancient Hebrews, God may be giving us another chance:
"...I have set before you Life, and Death. Choose Life..." (Deut. 30:19).
The Bible-reading Christians in our Government seem to realize this (as Ann Coulter alluded to), and we need to urge them to act on this.
Will we continue to sacrifice our children to the gods, or will we return to the One True God, and choose Life?

[copycat]

THe PBA ban should be saved for deep in the middle of next summer, when few people are paying attention.

The first act of a Republican Congress needs to be Election Reform. Let's level the playing field and give the control of the country back to the people.

[DB]

Why? Most people want it. They should take credit for it.

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Shrillary Clinton will push her terrorist friends to start World War III before she and her NARAL friends allow ANY slow down to the abortion death machine. Prayer is needed here.

[alancarp]

Please, for ONCE, forget politics here!! If you even care one whit about this issue -- if it's even worth challenging at all -- then for God's sake, DO IT NOW. If you believe that this is intended to rescue the lives of viable babies being killed when but a moment from their first breath of air, then this had better not be used for 2004 political fodder. There is no defensible reason for doing so!

[fogarty]

Ms. Pelosi is a supporter of infanticide. She and Clinton are no better than those Germans who supported the Jews' slaughter during the holocaust. Partial-birth abortion is not close to infanticide - it is infanticide. There is no other way to look at it, unless a person ignores reality altogether.

The fact that we practice it here in the united states means for some things, we are no better than savages.

[fogarty]

Do you believe this practice is INFANTICIDE? If you believe that, then there is no time to wait for next summer. If you believe these are HUMAN BEINGS being slaughtered, then it is immoral to recommend 'waiting' for a politically-convenient time.

If, on the other hand, you don't believe these babies are human, then why support a ban on it at all?

There is no middle ground here - except for those who are either inconsistent or apathetic.

[Buffalo Bob]

[grania]

the Republicans would be smarter to get their judicial nominations passed first and handle any Supreme Court vacancies that materialize before bringing this bill up for a vote in the Senate. This would allow the issue to not be as great a lightning rod for liberal backlash.

I don't think that's a good idea. Now, as the editorial avers, the overwhelming majority of the population is against PBA and third trimester "abortions" (murders). The Dems are just looking to make anything an issue. Before they start screaming, and editorializing, and mis-informing their members, at least the PBA ban should be in place.

Meanwhile, with the majorities in the legislature, conservative judges will be approved. By the time the bans get to the courts, it will be too late to do anything about it.

The sooner this ban happens, the less of an issue it will be in the next election cycle. It will be old by them, and women will see that personal responsibility is an enabling thing, and the issue won't work.

For those of us who believe that the destruction of the life of a viable pre-born infant is murder, every day this ban waits is more slaughter that could've been stopped.

[nonliberal]

I will believe this when I see it.

[Leto]

I agree with you take, Make the rats put their vote on PBA on the record, then how will those who voted for the PBA use abortion against judges forcefully.

As for the Pro Death crowd, thinking it a political loser, bring it on.

[Vic3O3]

LIFE ping!

[Prolifeconservative]

For the Love of God (literally), can someone please do a post 9/11 poll about American's disdain for this cold-blooded murder in our Nation. I find it quite disturbing, there are no polls on this issue since 9/11, and I'm willing to bet the number of Americans opposing this atrocity has grown since.

[Houmatt]

First of all, liberals will mischaracterize this as "choice" the very same way they have mis-stated the issue for every other hideous idea associated with abortion. Surely NARAL, NOW, Planned Parenthood, People for the American Way, etc. will put them up to it if they don't have the backbone to do it themselves.

I do not know about the latter, but I know all of the former organizations (along with the ACLU) most certainly can and will lie about the reality of partial-birth abortion. We know their assertion that it is rare, only when the mother's life is in jeopardy and is performed early are complete fictions handed to a gullible American populace.

As much as I would thoroughly enjoy seeing this legislation brought up once again and passed by Congress, with the promise it would be signed into law once it hits Bush's desk, I also know once it happens it would be immediately challenged in a federal court and an activist judge will keep the law from being enforced.

That is what the unborn of today and the future have to look forward to.

[Prolifeconservative]

No, no, and no. The P-BA ban bill should go now. Every minute this waits, more innocent lives are lost.

If you were on the street and saw a man choking to death, would you tell him, "Sir, there's a shirt on sale in the store you standing in front of, I soon as I purchase it I'll be back to help you in any way I can."

[ravingnutter]

The latest abortion polls are here. Last one done on abortion in general was Feb 2002. Last one done on PBA was April 2000.

[jwalsh07]

Partial-birth abortion is not close to infanticide - it is infanticide.

Hear, hear Fogarty.