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"The Mosquito Fleet" - PT Boats
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Posted on 11/16/2002 8:15:43 AM PST by SAMWolf

PT 109 was one of the hundreds of motor torpedo boats (PT) of the PT 103 class completed between 1942 and 1945 by Elco Naval Division of Electric Boat Company at Bayonne, New Jersey. The Elco boats were the largest in size of the three types of PT boats built for U.S. use during World War II. Wooden-hulled, 80 feet long with a 20-foot, 8-inch beam, the Elco PT boats had three 12-cylinder Packard gasoline engines generating a total of 4,500 horsepower for a designed speed of 41 knots. With accommodations for 3 officers and 14 men, the crew varied from 12 to 14. Its full-load displacement was 56 tons. Early Elco boats had two 20mm guns, four .50-caliber machine guns, and two or four 21-inch torpedo tubes. Some of them carried depth charges or mine racks. Later boats mounted one 40mm gun and four torpedo launching racks. Many boats received ad-hoc refits at advanced bases, mounting such light guns as Army Air Forces 37mm aircraft guns and even Japanese 23mm guns. Some PTs later received rocket launchers.

Originally conceived as antiship weapons, PTs were publicly, but erroneously, credited with sinking Japanese warships during the early months after Pearl Harbor. During the long Solomons campaign, they operated usefully at night and times of low visibility against Japanese barge traffic in the "Slot." Throughout World War II, PTs operated in the southern, western, and northern Pacific, as well as in the Mediterranean and the English Channel. Some served off Normandy during that invasion. Though their primary mission continued to be seen as attack of surface ships and craft, PTs were also used effectively to lay mines and smoke screens, to rescue downed aviators, and to carry out intelligence or raider operations. Almost all surviving Elco PTs were disposed of shortly after V-J Day. One Elco boat, PT 617, survives at Battleship Cove, Fall River, Massachusetts.

Although more 80-foot Elco boats were built than any other type of motor torpedo boat, other types were built by the U. S. The British-designed 70-foot Vosper boats which were built for Lend Lease fired 18-inch torpedoes. Since the U.S. produced the heavier and longer 21-inch torpedoes, the U.S. Navy wanted a larger PT boat. After experimentation, the first PT boat built in any quantity was the 77-foot type built by Elco. These boats were used early in World War II. In 1943 in the Solomons, three of these 77-foot PT boats, PT 59, PT 60 and PT 61, were even converted into gunboats by stripping the boat of all original armament except for the two twin .50 caliber gun mounts, and then adding two 40mm guns and four more twin .50 caliber machine guns. LTJG John F. Kennedy was the first commanding officer of PT 59 after the conversion.

Although the Huckins Yacht Company of Jacksonville, Florida, built a few 78 foot boats of the PT 95 class, the 80-foot Elco boats and the 78-foot Higgins boats became the standard motor torpedo boats of World War II. The Higgins boats which were built by Higgins Industries in New Orleans, Louisiana, were 78-foot boats of the PT 71 class. The Higgins boats had the same beam, full load displacement, engine, generators, shaft horsepower, trial speed, armament, and crew accommodations as the 80-foot Elco boats.

PT BOAT BUILDERS

US Navy PTs were predominately built by Elco Navy Division of Electric Boat Company, Bayonne, New Jersey, Higgins Industries in New Orleans and Huckins Yacht Corp in Jacksonville, Florida. Other builders include, Canadian Power Boat, which built 4 Scott-Paine design boats. Harbor Boat Building, Robert Jacob Yard, Annapolis Yacht Yard and Herreschoff also built (Assembled) PT's from Elco kits and others. The Elco Navy Division manufactured more USN PTs than the other seven. It was later absorbed by General Dynamics, which is still building USN vessels (currently a sub.) Huckins is still building yachts. Higgins went out of business many years ago. Higgins is best remembered for building landing craft.

WHO ARE PT BOAT VETERANS

All men who served with and supported PTs are considered PT Boat veterans. This includes those serving in one unofficial tender or mother ship and 19 official tenders plus thousands who were assigned to Base Forces and other support units. There were roughly 80 shore bases for PTs around the world.

PT BOAT AREAS OF OPERATIONS (WWII)

Theaters of operations for PT boats: Atlantic, Mediterranean, English Channel, Caribbean, Aleutians, Pacific.

Training: Melville (Portsmouth), Rhode Island.
Supplementary training: Taboga, Panama.

PT BOATERS RECEIVING THE MEDAL OF HONOR

Two PT men were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor: John D. Bulkeley and Murray Preston. Bulkeley retired in 1988 as Vice Admiral after 59 years active duty.

Preston's award was for the rescue of a downed pilot in Wasile Bay, Halmahera Islands, Pacific Theater, while in Ron 33. Previously he had been in Ron 1. He died January 7, 1968.

Bulkeley received his award from President Roosevelt for "Breakout from Corregidor," the operation that took MacArthur, his family and Philippine officials out of the Philippines as the islands fell to the Japanese. Bulkeley carefully does not refer to this operation as a rescue. At that time he was in Ron 3, the squadron known as "The Expendables." In 1945 the movie, "They Were Expendable," based on White's book, was released. Actual PTs were used in the filming. Those boats came from Ron 4.

PT BOATERS KILLED IN ACTION (WWII)

Killed in Action PT men are counted at 331. A plaque in their memory can be seen in the reception area of Newberry Hall (PT Boats, Inc. Museum and Library.) KIAs are actual death in combat. Accidental deaths aren't counted.

HOW MANY PT BOATERS - SERVED IN WWII

Total thought to have served in all aspects of PT service: 60,000-64,000. It's impossible to determine number of replacements. Everyone didn't go through Melville MTBSTC and MTBRTU. Oft-published statements that PT men were all volunteers are untrue.

PT BOAT LOSSES IN WWII

Out of 531 PTs placed in US Navy service, 69 were lost:
5 - destroyed by enemy surface ship gunfire;
1 - rammed by enemy ship; 1 - rammed enemy ship;
1 - enemy aircraft strafing;
4 - enemy bombings;
2 - kamikaze attacks;
5 - enemy shore batteries;
4 - enemy mines;
1 - damaged by enemy fire then destroyed;
2 - lost in transit, tanker torpedoed by enemy.
Total: 26 lost by enemy action.

Additional losses:
18 - grounded in enemy waters and destroyed to prevent capture;
3 - destroyed to prevent capture;
3 - destroyed by US aircraft;
2 - destroyed by Australian aircraft;
2 - destroyed by US ships;
1 - destroyed by enemy shore fire or wild shot from US warship;
5 - grounded/destroyed outside enemy waters or in storms;
6 - fire or explosion in port;
3 - collisions.
Total: 43 lost by accidents, friendly fire or sea conditions.

Above figures do not include fates of Lend-Lease boats.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: navy; ptboats; wwii
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks Sam, interesting report. My Uncle, Leonard Kane, was a radioman aboard a PTB during WWII. Unfortunately he died about 6 years ago. I will foward this to my cousin(his son) in N.J.
41 posted on 11/16/2002 4:39:33 PM PST by gc4nra
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To: gc4nra
I thank your uncle for his service.
42 posted on 11/16/2002 4:51:47 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: PUGACHEV
Packards eh?

All this time I thought they had used the same motor that was in the P51 mustang....an allison V-12.

I once saw a tractor at a tractor pull that supossedly had a motor from an old PT boat....that's what the owner claimed, anyway.
43 posted on 11/16/2002 4:57:44 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre
The P-51A was the only model with the Allison. Beginning with the B they switched to the Merlin.
44 posted on 11/16/2002 5:13:49 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: pabianice
Look for the February issue of Naval History magazine where you'll find: "Coming in February Naval History: Article analyzing evidence that John F.
Kennedy's order stalled the engines on the PT-109 -- and that he never
admitted to the error in public -- along with a piece criticizing a recent
History Channel program on this subject."
45 posted on 11/16/2002 5:16:21 PM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
What did they do with the allison motors after the switch? Did they ever put them in PT boats?
46 posted on 11/16/2002 5:27:10 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: SAMWolf; SpookBrat
Great post! Congradulations SpookBrat. Your grandad had to be tough when the going got real tough! Got to admire those men and women from that generation....because of them, we are free to be here today. My dad was Chief of Staff of Guantanamo Bay in the mid sixties. He served under Admiral Bulkeley, who was Commandant. I had no idea of his fame then. I can tell you, he was hell on wheels and would have hated to be on the wrong side of him! He used to careen around the base in an open jeep with a 375 mag strapped to his waist. Great memories!
47 posted on 11/16/2002 5:51:27 PM PST by TheLion
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To: skull stomper
You're welcome Skull Stomper. I know SpookBrat wanted to honor her grandfather.
49 posted on 11/16/2002 7:07:23 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf; SpookBrat
Wonderful thread. Thank you so much for posting this in Spookie's Grandfather's honor.
50 posted on 11/16/2002 8:17:50 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Hey RA. Good to see you.
51 posted on 11/16/2002 8:55:33 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
You also my friend. :-)
52 posted on 11/16/2002 8:56:42 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: SAMWolf; SpookBrat
SAM, thanks for doing this.

Spooky, to your Grandpa, a HUGE patriotic hug from this family to him. Tell him thank you for serving his country so well. And thank him for making it a safer place for MY grandson!!!
53 posted on 11/16/2002 10:42:46 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Brad's Gramma; SpookBrat; SAMWolf
Spooky, to your Grandpa, a HUGE patriotic hug from this family to him. Tell him thank you for serving his country so well. And thank him for making it a safer place for MY grandson!!!

I could not have said it better! :-)

54 posted on 11/16/2002 11:02:49 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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55 posted on 11/16/2002 11:09:37 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
What a perilous time that was! Thank God Americans like Spooky's Grandfather stood forth and defended this great country.
56 posted on 11/16/2002 11:28:22 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Yep. We owe our dad's and grand dad's a lot.
57 posted on 11/16/2002 11:38:24 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SpookBrat
Get well, Grampa ! :O)



58 posted on 11/17/2002 3:13:17 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: RadioAstronomer
You forgot to tell my Gramps what a wonderful granddaughter he had. ROFL!

Hugs!

59 posted on 11/17/2002 4:50:17 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: SAMWolf; SpookBrat
Thanks SAMWolf for the interesting thread on the PT boats.

SpookBrat, My regards to your Grandfather, he will be in my thought the next couple of days.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}
60 posted on 11/17/2002 5:55:05 AM PST by alfa6
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