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Pelosi Not A "Conservative Catholic" Catholic League President Says (New Old Left)
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| 11/15/02
| Limbacher
Posted on 11/15/2002 2:17:03 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
**Nancy Pelosi's claim to be a "conservative Catholic" was challenged today by an astonished Catholic League president William Donahue.**
Bump for the Catholic League and Bill Donahue.
To: Remedy
**"Yes, I'm a liberal Democrat, but I'm a conservative Catholic,"**
Isn't this an oxymornic statement? Both cannot be true!
To: Salvation
If I were a Leftist I'd have to ask myself how much of a DIPWAD these people really think I am.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; ...
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To: Salvation
**"Yes, I'm a liberal Democrat, but I'm a conservative Catholic,"**
Isn't this an oxymornic statement? Both cannot be true!Similar to Willy Clinton being a Southern Baptist or Hitler being a Catholic.
Maybe Pelosi is a member of CATHOLICS FOR A FREE CHOICE?
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posted on
11/16/2002 2:31:57 PM PST
by
Remedy
To: Remedy
The claim is sometimes made that Hitler was a Christian - a Roman Catholic until the day he died. In factI thought Hitler was considered a pagan, looking to return Germany to its Teutonic glory.
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posted on
11/16/2002 3:17:44 PM PST
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SuziQ
To: SuziQ
- Darwinism and the Nazi Race Holocaust - Although Hitler was baptized a Catholic, he was never excommunicated, and evidently considered himself a good Roman Catholic as a young man, and at times used religious language. He clearly had
strong, even vociferous, anti-Christian feelings as an adult, as did probably most Nazi party leaders. As a
consummate politician, though, he openly tried to exploit the church.
55 Hitler once revealed his attitude toward Christianity when he bluntly stated that religion is an:
organized lie [that] must be smashed. The State must remain the absolute master. When I was younger, I thought it was necessary to set about [destroying religion]
with dynamite. Ive since realized theres room for a little subtlety
. The final state must be
in St. Peters Chair, a senile officiant; facing him a few sinister old women
The young and healthy are on our side
its impossible to eternally hold humanity in bondage and lies
. [It] was only between the sixth and eighth centuries that Christianity was imposed upon our peoples
. Our peoples had previously succeeded in living all right without this religion. I have six divisions of SS men absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. It doesnt prevent them from going to their death with serenity in their souls. 56
His beliefs as revealed in this quote are abundantly clear: the younger people who were the hope of Germany were absolutely indifferent in matters of religion. As Keith noted, the Nazi party viewed Darwinism and Christianity as polar opposites.
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posted on
11/16/2002 4:05:50 PM PST
by
Remedy
To: Salvation
Thank you for the ping & Bttt
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posted on
11/16/2002 4:45:36 PM PST
by
firewalk
To: Remedy
The claim is sometimes made that Hitler was a Christian - a Roman Catholic until the day he died. In factI never knew he was baptized a Catholic; I just knew he didn't live his life as a Catholic, and his public policies for Germany never reflected Christian teachings.
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11/16/2002 6:49:31 PM PST
by
SuziQ
To: Salvation
Thanks for the PING, Salvation.
If Pelosi claims to be a Conservative Catholic and gets away with it, maybe I could claim to be Ann Coulter and get some of the revenue generated by her book sales. Heck, maybe if I claim to be Ann Coulter I could wear a size six dress, too.
Well, I suppose I could wear a size six dress. On my head. As a hat.
To: Johnny Shear
the notoriously anti-Catholic organization Catholics for a Free Choice This statement reminds me of Blacks who call other Blacks Oreos or Uncle Toms. Not at all. One can hold ANY point of view and still be black, but a pro-abortion stance is anti-Catholic, period.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Pelosi, Kennedy, Sanchez et al are CINO's(Catholics in Name Only)...
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11/17/2002 6:34:21 AM PST
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kellynla
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's great that Donahue spoke out quickly. I really like and respect that guy.
But doesn't it disturb you that it's not a Catholic Bishop that spoke out first? Doesn't it disturb you that no Catholic Bishop will ever speak out on Pelosi's claim to be a conservative Catholic? What's wrong with those guys?
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