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Pelosi Not A "Conservative Catholic" Catholic League President Says (New Old Left)
NewsMax ^ | 11/15/02 | Limbacher

Posted on 11/15/2002 2:17:03 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Chancellor Palpatine
When was Hitler excommunicated?

The first time he committed or instigated a violent act against a priest or religious (1934, for sure, but maybe before then), OR the first time he stole or intentionally destroyed church property (1939, if not earlier), OR the first time he authorized or promoted, or forced an abortion for anyone (Jews and Poles were victimized by forced abortion during the Holocaust), he was excommunicated automatically, according to canon law.

Excommunicating someone who hasn't set foot in a Catholic church for 20+ years doesn't really accomplish much, though.

21 posted on 11/15/2002 3:20:57 PM PST by Campion
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To: navyblue
Hitler may have been a Catholic at one time, but he was ex communicated by the Pope!

The Pope never formally excommunicated him; he didn't need to, the law did it automatically.

Excommunicating a layperson by name is very rare. I doubt it has been done since the time of Napoleon.

22 posted on 11/15/2002 3:22:34 PM PST by Campion
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Nancy Pelosi? Oh yeah, she's practically SSPX.
23 posted on 11/15/2002 3:23:01 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
the notoriously anti-Catholic organization Catholics for a Free Choice

This statement reminds me of Blacks who call other Blacks Oreos or Uncle Toms.

24 posted on 11/15/2002 3:24:45 PM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: Mustang
I've met all types of religious people, those who related closer to general population always struck me as more normal. To be able to sit down with one, have a drink, and discuss real life alway gave me faith.

To think that there are any of these people out there who wouldn't see Pelosi for what she is, obviously is disturbing. We hear enough of the excuses crap game from the Leftists. We are what we are and just pray that Dashole et al. are able to keep control the Leftists.

25 posted on 11/15/2002 3:25:13 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Nancy Pelosi mouths the words "conservative Catholic" as little more than a throw-away phrase to balance her true persona as a "liberal Democrat" which she rightly perceives to be a negative for many Americans. On a major tenet of the Catholic religion, so important it's literally a matter of life and death, she clearly reveals she has no faith except for socialism. I have far more respect for a devout atheist than one who flaunts religion merely to gain the acceptance of others. Once again, the Democrats demonstrate an astonishing propensity to choose leaders who lack integrity and character.
26 posted on 11/15/2002 3:25:22 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: Campion
You are right. I read this in a Cathilic web site, KiwiCatholic.Com

Whether Hitler was personally formally excommunicated doesn't matter - the whole purpose of excommunication is to help the sinner recognize the seriousness of his sins so he will seek forgiveness and return to the Church. To someone like Hitler, who didn't believe in the truth of Christianity, excommunication would be of no concern. He had already put himself outside of the Church.

27 posted on 11/15/2002 3:36:52 PM PST by shiva
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Pelosi again claimed to be a "conservative Catholic" on The Today Show this morning, in an interview with Matt Lauer. It sparked quite an animated thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/789487/posts
28 posted on 11/15/2002 4:14:40 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: shiva
Thanks, but no thanks. My good Mama taught be to stay out of such places

And that's what good mamas should do.Good for her. But papas teach you to go into the enemy's camp to find out what he's up to.....this is War, Boy!!War!

29 posted on 11/15/2002 5:24:43 PM PST by shiva
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Biker Scum; Digger; Missouri; Mustang; nickcarraway; Unmarked Package; ...
"...Socialism...cannot be reconciled with the teachings
of the Catholic Church because its concept of society itself
is utterly foreign to Christian truth."

QUADRAGESIMO ANNO, 117, Encyclical of Pope Pius XI,
Reconstruction of the Social Order, May 15, 1931

"...no Catholic [can] subscribe even to moderate Socialism."
MATER ET MAGISTRA, 34, Pope John XXIII,
On Christianity and Social Progress, MAY 15, 1961
30 posted on 11/15/2002 10:17:52 PM PST by polemikos
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Siobhan; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; ...
Pelosi! Kerry! Kennedy! All should be excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Conservative?? Who is she kidding?
31 posted on 11/16/2002 11:06:28 AM PST by NYer
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
It's the liberal mindset: I will say what I need to further whatever my political agenda of the moment is. If I need to say I am an Orthodox Jew five minutes later so be it.
32 posted on 11/16/2002 11:14:03 AM PST by Fair Paul
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To: Fair Paul
It's the liberal mindset: I will say what I need to further whatever my political agenda of the moment is. If I need to say I am an Orthodox Jew five minutes later so be it.

By Sharon Samber

WASHINGTON, Nov. 12 (JTA) -- A congresswoman was in the middle of her speech at an American Israel Public Affairs Committee luncheon in San Francisco last December when an alarm went off.

Fearing a possible terrorist attack, jittery attendees were rushing out of the room when they suddenly heard Hatikvah, Israel's national anthem.

It was the non-Jewish speaker, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who was reciting the hopeful lyrics in English. The crowd was stunned.

``She is connected to the Jewish community," said Sam Lauter, a pro-Israel activist in San Francisco. ``It comes from her soul."

33 posted on 11/16/2002 11:25:06 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: NYer; Biker Scum; Digger; Missouri; Mustang; nickcarraway; Unmarked Package; Siobhan; ...
Pelosi described her new job as such, "Win back the House".

Is she working for America, Dashole, Clinton, or the Leftists?

34 posted on 11/16/2002 11:33:28 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The only thing about her that seems the least bit conservative is that she has 5 kids (as I understand it).

Having 5 kids, however, does not make one a conservative (even though now-a-days most younger people with 5 kids probably areconservative).

I would guess that Pelosi was fairly traditional, had her 5 kids, then sort of morphed into a feminazi socialist.
35 posted on 11/16/2002 11:47:24 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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36 posted on 11/16/2002 11:48:10 AM PST by ChadGore
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To: Notwithstanding
Ever wonder if all of the inner city children the Leftists covered under government programs might have been "engineered" by design for a new socialist era?
37 posted on 11/16/2002 11:54:29 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: nickcarraway
Well, then ping UltimaRatio and Maximilian. I am certain they will want to know that Pelosi is a co-religionist.
38 posted on 11/16/2002 11:58:40 AM PST by ninenot
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To: ChadGore
Uncanny... Let's hope she provides the same kind of leadership for the Democratic party. LOL
39 posted on 11/16/2002 12:03:31 PM PST by Rockitz
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; ultima ratio; maximillian
Is she working for America, Dashole, Clinton, or the Leftists?

None of the above. Pelosi impresses me as a barracuda - out for herself. Can't wait to see how she handles herself with Hitlary. I'm betting there will be lots of clawing and scratching behind closed doors.

40 posted on 11/16/2002 1:37:37 PM PST by NYer
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