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1 posted on 11/14/2002 8:11:46 AM PST by chris_in_nj
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What we really need is more pay for our hard-working dedicated teachers, smaller class sizes, and more support for the tolerance curriculum.


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2 posted on 11/14/2002 8:16:13 AM PST by fishtank
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To: chris_in_nj
Homeschool BTTT.
3 posted on 11/14/2002 8:17:38 AM PST by day10
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To: TxBec; SpookBrat; 2Jedismom
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4 posted on 11/14/2002 8:17:47 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: chris_in_nj
Hmmm. Plenty of public school teachers and public school administration are pond scum...this article shows there are plenty of parents of the same mold though. Little Johnny skips school and doesn't study so his grades are low, and the parent sues the teacher/district? sheesh!

As parents we have a responsibility to educate and raise our children how we see fit. That is why we homeschool.

5 posted on 11/14/2002 8:20:34 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: chris_in_nj; *Academia list; *Education News; Home School; First_Salute; ...
indexing

Here are links to various education threads (also containing numerous helpful links)

FReegards

The silence of the lambs: McMillan blasts bureaucrats for destroying public education
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: August 15, 2002; Author: Craige McMillan

Taking Charge: Let's Stop Aiding and Abetting Academicians' Folly
Source: HOME EDUCATION magazine; Published: July-August 2002; Author: Larry and Susan Kaseman

’Open Directory’ --Society/Issues/Education/Education_Reform

Deconstructing Public Education
Source: www.newsmax.com; Published: July 26, 2002; Author: Diane Alden

Specious Science In Our Schools
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: July 9, 2002; Author: Alan Caruba

SYMPOSIUM Q: Is the National Education Association Being Fair to Its Religious Objectors?
Source: INSIGHT magazine; Published: June 10, 2002; Authors NO: Stefan Gleason ////\\\\ YES: Bob Chase

Public Sector Subverting Productive Industry
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: May 16, 2002; Author: Henry Pelifian

History of America's Education Part 2: Noah Webster and Early America
Source: Sierra Times; Published: March 27, 2002; Author: April Shenandoah

How Communist is Public Education?
Source: sierratimes.com; Published:March 22, 2002; Author: Chuck Morse

History of America's Education Part 1: Johnny is in trouble
Source: Sierra Times; Published: March 20, 2002; Author: April Shenandoah

Audit rips Georgia schools' curriculum
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution; Published: March 11, 2002; Author:JAMES SALZER

Why schools fail: Samuel Blumenfeld warns Bush's education legislation is ineffective
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: March 2, 2002; Author: Samuel Blumenfeld

Public School Isn't Like I Remember It
Source: Too Good Reports; Published: February 28, 2002; Author: Phyllis Schlafly

What Is Lacking In Our Educational System
Source: Too Good Reports; Published: February 28, 2002; Author: Ben Cerruti

The charade of education reform
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: February 2, 2002; Author: Dr. Samuel L. Blumenfeld

American public schools: Working just as designed
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: January 21, 2002; Author: Vox Day

High Schools Fail Thanks To Grade Inflation And Social Promotion
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: December 5, 2001; Author: Vin Suprynowicz

WHY AMERICANS CAN’T READ
Source: Accuracy in Media; Published: December 4, 2001; Author: Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid

The Failing Teacher and the Teachers' Code of Silence
Source: CNSNews.com; Published: December 3, 2001; Author: Glenn Sacks

Time for outrage! Linda Bowles reports latest results in America's public schools
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: November 27, 2001; Author: Linda Bowles

Illiterate in Boston: Samuel Blumenfeld explains U.S.'s ongoing reading problem
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: July 20, 2001; Author: Samuel Blumenfeld

NEA - Let our children go!
Source: WorldNet Daily; Published: June 23. 2001; Author: Linda Harvey

COOKING THE BOOKS AT EDUCATION
Source: Accuracy In Media; Published: June 5, 2001; Author: Cliff Kincaid

Why Do Schools Play Games With Students' Minds ?
Source: The Detroit News; Published: April 1, 2001; Author: Thomas Sowell

The Public School Nightmare: Why fix a system designed to destroy individual thought?
Source: http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/patt/homeschl.htm; Author: John Taylor Gatto

Dumbing down teachers
Source: USNews.com; Published: February 21, 2001; Author: John Leo

Free Republic links to education related articles (thread#8)
Source: Free Republic; Published: 3-20-2001; Author: Various

Are children deliberately 'dumbed down' in school? {YES!!!}
Source: World Net Daily; Published: May 13, 2001; Author: Geoff Metcalf {Interview}

Could they really have done it on purpose?
Source: THE LIBERTARIAN; Published: 07/28/2000; Author: Vin Suprynowicz

New Book Explores America's Education Catastrophe
Source: Christian Citizen USA; Published: April 2000; Author: William H. Wild

Deliberately dumbing us down (Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt's, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: December 2,1999; Author: Samuel L. Blumenfeld

Deconstructing the Western Mind: Gramscian-Marxist Subversion of Faith and Education
Source: www.petersnet; Published: Winter 1997; Author: Frank Morriss

Littleton Crisis to Government Control

The UN Plan for Your Mental Health


6 posted on 11/14/2002 8:21:37 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: chris_in_nj
Educators worry that these suits may force teachers to "dumb down" their curriculum.

Why don't the public schools just keep the kids home, and MAIL them their diplomas!

It's only a small next step, if absentees can sue for grades.

The parents who support these suits should be declared unfit.

On second thought, No. The parents will be punished when their unemployable offspring live with and off them _forever_.

7 posted on 11/14/2002 8:25:34 AM PST by Gorzaloon
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Home schooling bump!
9 posted on 11/14/2002 8:27:00 AM PST by biblewonk
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To: chris_in_nj
read later
11 posted on 11/14/2002 8:29:45 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: chris_in_nj
Increasingly, home schooling looks like the only option.

It isn't that it is impossible to get a utility-grade education from a public school, IF the parent will be involved in their child's education.

The problem is that you kid will spend most of his time around other kids whose parent(s) is(are) potential Jerry Springer guests. He will learn concepts that young minds are simply not ready for. He will be taught to doubt his sexuality before he even becomes a sexual creature.

And to top it off, you will be allowing a large, self-absorbed bureaucracy into your life and the life of your child.

The morons who can survey the state of public schools and vote for property tax increases (some 2/3rds of the populace) may be irredeemably stupid. New school buildings are becoming architectural masterpieces with every luxury simply because school districts (in Texas) are extremely cash rich.

And even that isn't enough. In the midst of huge revenue windfalls due to massive property value inflation, they are raising tax rates.

Their greed is unchecked and out of control.

I can't do anything about the fools who vote more taxes for themselves to pay for this insanity. But I don't have to put my kid in the middle of it.

14 posted on 11/14/2002 8:38:04 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: chris_in_nj
Two big Democrat supporters, the lawyers and the teachers, eating each other, and the kids are the real victims.

Why isn't it obvious that the only group truly concerned about the education of the children, and not their social programming and feelings, are the big, bad Republicans?

15 posted on 11/14/2002 8:43:30 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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To: chris_in_nj
The problem isn't with the idiots who sue it's the idiots who make a judgement in favor of those lawsuits.
18 posted on 11/14/2002 9:09:30 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: chris_in_nj

HSDLA is your lobbyist in Washington reminding the federal government that it has no jurisdiction over home schools and keeping home schooling legal and safe, now and for the future.

19 posted on 11/14/2002 9:23:12 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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Educators worry that these suits may force teachers to "dumb down" their curriculum.

HUH? Whuh, huh? Dumbed down? Can they BE anymore dumbed-down?

20 posted on 11/14/2002 9:31:31 AM PST by Slyfox
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In the end, experts say it's the system that suffers.

You gotta be kidding me.

22 posted on 11/14/2002 9:42:58 AM PST by WriteOn
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To: chris_in_nj
I fear the compulsory, authoritarian, and ineffective public school monopoly on education is the heart of the problem. Whenever people have someone else to hold responsible for their own failings, they will do so -- that is simple human nature. The solution is obvious -- return the full responsibility, including financial, for education to parents and take it away from government.

Democratic government works best when people do things for themselves and their own children -- that is what helps them to become competent, responsible citizens. Churches and other non-profit entities could step in to educate those who are unable to purchase education as they did before state funding of education. We might need tax-funded vouchers for the poorest children on a temporary basis to stimulate the development of more private schools.

We now have over 100 years experience with a mandatory, Government school monopoly and the results are in: it has failed students and society and is responsible for weakening every civic virtue needed for a people to be able to govern themselves. It is time to dump government schools and for citizens to take back this very important activity. Tocqueville wrote about how citizens cooperating to take care of this type of need was the real engine of democratic governance.

23 posted on 11/14/2002 9:43:20 AM PST by politeia
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To: chris_in_nj
Teachers truly are finding themselves between a rock and a hard place. On one hand, they're being told to raise standards by school boards. On the other, parents are asking them not to be too hard on their kids.

We homeschool, even though hubby has been a public high school teacher for 37 years. He'll be retiring in 2 years, if he can hold out that long. He teaches US and world history. The school district has dumbed down the books over the years like you would not believe. The current world history book devotes 70 pages to anything prior to 1600 and 500 pages for everything after. There are more words devoted to the attire of Louis XIV than there are to the Reformation. The US history book is just as bad. It is called something like The Americans ... From Reconstruction to Today. 10% of the book devoted to Civil War and before; 90% to Reconstruction and forward.

Last year he was in a protracted argument with the administration over the grade EARNED (earned, mind you!!) by one girl in his class. She EARNED a B+, primarily because she turned in a project late because she was on a long weekend skiing trip. Her parents demanded that she be allowed to do extra work to bring her grade up to an A. It was ugly, and in the end, she got her A.

27 posted on 11/14/2002 10:16:48 AM PST by RightField
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'Educators worry that these suits may force teachers to "dumb down" their curriculum'

... faster than they otherwise would have.

29 posted on 11/14/2002 11:35:19 AM PST by newgeezer
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35 posted on 11/16/2002 7:25:51 AM PST by day10
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To: chris_in_nj
Bump for later...
36 posted on 11/17/2002 9:18:54 PM PST by multitaskmom
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