[Guillermo]

Yeah, but Christians want to do the exact same thing.

And, remember the Crusades.

[wimpycat]

Yeah, I remember the Crusades. That was Christians fighting Moslems almost a thousand years ago.

This letter is being circulated this week.

And Christians (anyone worthy of the name) aren't interested in tricking or co-ercing people into converting, especially by luring them with sex and alcohol.

As a Christian, I can tell you that this is not the exact same thing. So enough of the moral equivalency and let's not change the subject, shall we?

[daapfe]

What is the point in Saying that christians want to do the same thing...Last time i looked christians dont do it out of some evil ploy...ANd to force a girl into it..I dont remembr the last time a born again wanted to force someone into being a christian. Islam on the other hand is a forceful religion... Remember the british IMAN OR WHAT ever they call them, saying he wanted to turn england into a islamic state? Oh how do you think Muslims do it door to door requitment? NOT.. If you dont convert we cut your head off...So mr Gulebulermo if you think christians do the same look at the koran and the bible big difference... OH and is that the best you can do to bring up the crusades? Lets see 600 yrs ago christians? NOW ISLAMOFACIST!!!!!!! big difference.

[Rifleman]

Not to mention that the Crusades were a response to a couple of hundred years of Islamic expansion. They were the self defense of the West.

[fivecatsandadog]

Yeah, but Christians want to do the exact same thing.

I think you all of us here an explanation.

[Blood of Tyrants]

1. Comparing the voluntary conversion of people of other faiths to Christianity by logic, reason, and scriptures to the use of trickery, deceit, duress, and outright threats of death as practiced by Moslems is an insult.

2. You drag up an event that happened 800 years ago yet completely forget that Muslims are responsible for more death and war and suffering in the past 20 years than all the other people on earth.

[CatoRenasci]

The Crusades, so often maligned, were a response to Islamic aggression and conquest. After all, the Holy Land was not originally Moslem, it was conquered by force by Arabs.

Further, without arguing that Christians have at all times acted entirely in accordance with the precepts of Christianity, when Christianity seeks to convert those who are not Christians, it seeks to do so by persuasion, not the "other Methods" of the Koran, i.e. force. Christian converts do not lose their legal status or rights and are not forbidden from seeing members of their families. Comparing Islam and Christianity on their methods of conversion is like comparing Atilla the Hun with Ghandi.

[homeschool mama]

What an ignorant statement.

[Centurion2000]

Yeah, but Christians want to do the exact same thing.

Put the crack pipe down. We dont kill for apostasy like islam does. BTW, the Crusades were 500 years ago. Christians have progressed and moslems are still barbarian animals.

[Britton J Wingfield]

I detect sarcasm. Looks like many here don't, though.

[Cachelot]

And, remember the Crusades.

Yes, let's remember the crusades. Fondly.
Let the ismalics remember them, too.

Let the games begin....

[wideawake]

(1) Christians are not supposed to deceive people in order to convert them.

(2) The Crusades took place where? In the Middle East?

The Middle East was entirely Christian, Jewish and Zoroastrian until around 650 AD. By 750 AD it was almost entirely Moslem.

The Moslems murdered hundreds of thousands of Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians and converted millions by the sword and torture.

In the 1100s, some Christians reclaimed by force a tiny percentage of the land which had been taking by the marauding Moslem horde.

It's a shame that the Crusaders didn't finish the job. If they had, the Middle East would be a lot more like Europe and the US and not a impoverished hellhole filled with self-exploding maniacs.

[calenel]

"And, remember the Crusades."

Yeah, I remember that the Crusades were the military response to various unprovoked military aggressions by the islamic imperialists. Virtually all the so-called Islamic lands were once Christian territory, taken by force in a war that has lasted, virtually without pause, for 13 centuries.

[SevenDaysInMay]

The First Crusade responded to the muslim invasion of the Christian society in the Holy Lands, specifically triggered by the rampaging desecration and utter destruction of not just any church. The crusaders' initial victory lapsed into complacent, defensive mission self-sabbotage, a UN peacekeeping mission for its day.

The Islamic horde swept from the desert into more civilized kingdoms on Mohammed's fanciful promise of blood lust, loot, and slaves from those societies far more productive and wealthy (primarily Jews and Christians) than the internecine tribes of Arabia.

[joesnuffy]

Your rag's on a bit too tight

[RaceBannon]

Yeah, but Christians want to do the exact same thing. And, remember the Crusades.

That is a lie. There is NO command in Christianity to call on someone to disown their family because they convert to Christianity. Unlike Islam, which kills those who switch from Islam to another religion.

The crusades were in result of the Islamic hordes that attacked the existing Churches in Jerusalem, the established church fought back, they didnt start it. Islam started it.

[FreedomPoster]

You need to close your sarcasm tag, or people get the wrong idea, and their panties in a wad correcting/informing you.

That said, by your having done this, there's some new neat stuff I hadn't seen, like the Crusader graphic.

[Aquinasfan]

And, remember the Crusades.

...were against the Mohammedan aggressors. Q.E.D.

[KansasConservative1]

"And, remember the Crusades."

By the time the Crusades happened the Muslims had taken everything up to Spain. I think the Crusades were in response to somthing. Muslim aggression.