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Physical Evidence Points to Foul-Play in TWA Flight 800 Disaster
11/9/02 | John Fiorentino

Posted on 11/08/2002 10:50:42 PM PST by JohnFiorentino

(Below are excerpts from a forthcoming story on TWA Flight 800. They are being released now in the interest of furthering the goal of re-opening the investigation into that air disaster)

Evidence I have recently uncovered would seem to indicate that the pellets referred to in the BNLabs report may be an indicator of foul play re: TWA800. (The pellets being referred to here were recovered from several victims of the crash at autopsy)

The general consensus among several experts I have contacted indicates the pellets are CMC's or Ceramic Matrix Composites. (most likely pizeoelectric ceramics) Boeing has already indicated to me that they are NOT from the aircraft.

I have investigated the possibility these pellets may have come from the engines of the 747. However, in conversations and research with Pratt & Whitney I have ruled this out. Although some CMC's are utilized on P&W later model engines they were not in use on the engine models which powered TWA Fl800.

Below you will find some information regarding these materials.

(Some sources have been witheld)

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Piezoelectric materials generate an electrical voltage when their surfaces are stretched or compressed as a result of vibration.

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Over time, the company began to investigate other applications for its bone conduction technology. "In the early 70s, we started to work with General Dynamics on the Stinger Missile System,"

Harold Holsopple, President, Sensory Devices, Inc.,

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I apologize for not responding earlier. ........ from your description, it appears that the material could be some type of titanate-zirconate. Ca and Ba are common elements found in titanates. These are mostly piezoelectric ceramic materials.

My experience is mostly in mechanical properties of structural type ceramics. These appear to be electronic ceramics.

(Source witheld)

In conclusion, it would appear that the NTSB's stated "mechanical failure" scenario is the LEAST likely among the three categories initially considered -- Bomb, Missile, Mechanical failure.

Based on the foregoing I believe NTSB and FBI should be compelled to re-open their investigations.

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Copyright 2002, John E. Fiorentino -- All rights reserved


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To: willyone
How is asking questions silly? The Navy was in fact performing AEGIS tests the night flight 800 went down.
41 posted on 11/09/2002 5:07:16 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Asmodeus
who you allege told you -

Wouldn't it be easy to verify the statement rather than accuse the poster of lying? The man was willing to allow his name to be used. Why don't you call him?

42 posted on 11/09/2002 5:09:17 PM PST by Demidog
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To: willyone
How is your buddy Rivero these days? 36 posted on 11/09/2002 4:08 PM PST by willyone

How is your buddy James Kallstrom??

43 posted on 11/09/2002 5:28:30 PM PST by timestax
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To: JohnFiorentino
bump for the truth!!
44 posted on 11/09/2002 5:39:49 PM PST by timestax
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To: WFTR
I know for a fact that two common elements that are found in missiles were found on the piece of material taken from one of the seats in the airplane to be tested by an outside of govt source. I know personally the person who did the actual tests. When I asked what was found, the person told me what was found and they were natural elements found in a missile configuration. When the FBI report came out, those two elements were deliberately missing from their report. So the FBI and the govt lied us to big time about how that airplane was downed. I have known my friend for many many years. I know that person told me the truth. That person said that they were threatened by the FBI who tried to get all copies of the report that this person made. The person refused to give it to the FBI, except for a copy.
So our govt has known for these years that Flight 800 was downed by a missile and has hidden it from public view. That is not all that they have hidden. The American public had better wake up or we will all become more enslaved than we already are. If you want to help preserve our freedom, please go to the website of the American Foreign Policy Council and look at the info on the Asia Pacific Initiative that was funded thanks to Dana Rohrabacher and Kurt Weldon. Al Santoli is Director for that Initiative. He desperately needs money to feed, clothe, get meds and help 200 Burmese orphans at a Special Forces orphanage in Thailand. We need to raise $2000 by Dec. 1st for these darling kids. Go to www.afpc.org if you would like to help, or email me and I will send you info that Al has sent to me this week. ANy amount is gratefully appreciated. This orphanage is being run by a retired Special Forces Officer that is a friend of Al's, who by the way is a mich decorated Green Beret, and is a well known author on the Asian Pacific wars, Vietnam, etc. His latest is Unrestricted Warfare, written by two Chicom generals, about their plans to destroy our country.
God bless.
45 posted on 11/09/2002 6:03:58 PM PST by Lulu
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To: Asmodeus
My husband has his aeronautics advanced degree from Caltech along with 40 years of experience in the aerospace industry. His comment " I smell a rat".
46 posted on 11/09/2002 6:13:57 PM PST by Lulu
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To: Asmodeus
How about a "shoe bomb" made out of c3?

Light it, then stomp on the floor.

47 posted on 11/09/2002 6:44:06 PM PST by Bogie
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To: Asmodeus
All I was saying was that the "shootdown theory" should not be so quickly dismissed. I feel it highly unlikely that a missile shot down TWA #800 (accidentally or intentionally), but I have my doubts about an internal explosion in the fuel tank of the Boeing 747. If this was the cause, then why didn't the FAA ground all of this model of 747. Correct me if I'm wrong, for I am no aviation expert, just an aviation enthusiast.
48 posted on 11/09/2002 10:06:24 PM PST by ctnoell
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To: Asmodeus
Experimental and Theoretical Study of Zirconium Combustion for Incendiary Warhead Applications

Due to the high exothermic heat release, combustion of metals is very attractive for warheads designed for incendiary purposes. Zirconium, Magnesium, Titanium and similar pyrophoric metals have been widely used for incendiary applications. Therefore understanding the main combustion mechanisms of these metals are essential for design of incendiary warheads. In this study only Zirconium combustion will be investigated and following methodology will be used: 1) Detailed analysis of chemical kinetics of Zirconium-Oxygen combustion. 2) Numerical modeling of a single Zirconium particle combustion in oxygen rich environment. 3) Experimental combustion study of single Zirconium particle in a flat-flame burner. 4) Numerical modeling and experimental verification of two-phase combustion of Zirconium pellets.

Assistant Professor Abdullah Ulaþ

http://www.me.metu.edu.tr/tez/indexphd.htm
49 posted on 11/09/2002 10:21:58 PM PST by JohnFiorentino
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To: ctnoell
Oh, your ok then...those gubment boys/gubment appoligist get all upset when they hear or see the word =missile. They offer NO other alternative, they just drone on, like robots, "there was no missile, there was no missile, there was no missile..."eyewitneses were liars, eyewitneses were liars, eyewitneses were liars".......Of course it doesn't help their cause to find out that FBI man, Kames Kallstrom morphed a 25 knot speedboat heading away from the incident, into a "helicopter".
50 posted on 11/09/2002 10:25:41 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax
Should read James Kallstrom
51 posted on 11/09/2002 10:27:14 PM PST by timestax
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To: Demidog
You must realize by now that Asmodeus isn't interested in verifying anything. His sole purpose is obfuscation and disruption.
52 posted on 11/09/2002 10:27:21 PM PST by JohnFiorentino
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To: JohnFiorentino
You must realize by now that Asmodeus isn't interested in verifying anything. His sole purpose is obfuscation and disruption. 52 posted on 11/09/2002 10:27 PM PST by JohnFiorentino [ Post Reply

MOST veterans of this board (FReepers) are very much aware of tactics employed like the one you mentioned above!

53 posted on 11/09/2002 10:48:50 PM PST by timestax
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To: ctnoell
If clinton *did* order a cover up, then it ordered it TO someone & SOMEONE else carried it out. Where are these people & how long will they remain silent? Why no rumors, leaks?
54 posted on 11/10/2002 10:21:19 AM PST by Ditter
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To: *TWA800_list
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
55 posted on 11/10/2002 12:20:29 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: Asmodeus
Comments from YOU re: "personal attacks" are really quite humorous.
57 posted on 11/10/2002 12:41:39 PM PST by JohnFiorentino
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To: Ditter
These creeps who are involved in cover-up think they are "patriotic", and they also are fearfull for their lives.
58 posted on 11/10/2002 1:13:14 PM PST by timestax
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To: timestax
bump
59 posted on 11/10/2002 2:31:18 PM PST by timestax
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To: JohnFiorentino
During your own investigation of the Flight 800 disaster, have you seen ANY evidence that ANY of the attorneys representing the victims' families have NOT done so competently, lawfully and ethically?
60 posted on 11/10/2002 2:37:31 PM PST by Asmodeus
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