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Now that GOP controls Congress, hold onto your wallet, Libertarians say
lp.org ^ | 11/7/2002 | lp.org staff

Posted on 11/08/2002 5:55:01 PM PST by winner45

November 7, 2002

Now that GOP controls Congress, hold onto your wallet, Libertarians say

WASHINGTON, DC -- Now that Republicans control both houses of Congress and the presidency, Americans should brace themselves for an era of skyrocketing federal spending and ballooning budget deficits, Libertarians say.


“Our prediction is that with a GOP Congress egging him on, George Bush is going to make Bill Clinton look like a fiscal conservative,” said George Getz, Libertarian Party communications director.


“Even when Republicans controlled only one house of Congress, Bush managed to sign the first $2 trillion-plus federal budget, throw more money at Clinton-era programs and propel the deficit toward outer space. With complete congressional control, expect Bush to go on an absolute spending rampage.”


As GOP officials celebrate their resounding victory in Tuesday’s elections, in which Republicans expanded their House majority and reclaimed control of the Senate, the White House is reportedly planning to “roll out an ambitious legislative agenda.”


Unfortunately for taxpayers, Libertarians say, that agenda won’t include a reduction in government.


“Bush’s $2 trillion budget is already scheduled to expand by 6 percent this year,” Getz said. “Moreover, social welfare programs under Bush have grown by $96 billion in just two years, versus $51 billion under six years of Clinton, according to economist Stephen Moore of the Club for Growth.


“Bush’s budget also includes a number of Clinton-era programs, such as Americorps and the ‘Gore tax’ on telephone service – not to mention more money for socialized medicine, government-run schools and farm welfare.”


Now that Bush has more members of his own party in Congress, Americans should expect the spending binge to continue, Getz said.


“Since no newly elected Republicans have pledged to eliminate any Bush programs, it’s clear that two more years of George Bush equals two more years of bloated federal spending,” he said.


Another predictable result of a Republican-controlled Congress, Libertarians say: higher budget deficits.


According to figures from the Office of Management and Budget, Bush is now running a $106 billion deficit, Getz pointed out.


“Since every government program has to be paid for somehow, the president has simply chosen deficit spending over outright tax increases,” he said. “In either case, taxpayers get stuck with the bill.”


That’s why the only thing that happened on Tuesday is that a few tax-and-spend Democrats were replaced by borrow-and-spend Republicans.


“Now that Republicans have won control over the federal government,” Getz said, “it’s time for Americans to start scrambling to regain control over their own wallets.”


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: borrow; spend
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To: sinkspur
re: msg #6 by sinkspur

The Libertarians continue to sink into insignificance.

If the republicans grow fed budget/power/intrusion/draconian trampling of the BOR, then the Libertarians may not be so insignificant.

21 posted on 11/08/2002 7:03:46 PM PST by winner45
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To: Roscoe
Wave their magic wand?

Here is the Libertarian recipe for unhappiness: "If only everyone thought as I do, then I would be happy."

22 posted on 11/08/2002 7:05:09 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: demkicker
re: msg #7 from demkicker

Why would ANYONE get their shorts in a kink over a SPECULATIVE CONCERN FROM A LIBERTARIAN?

I don't know. Why would they? Unless, they know in their hearts that the LP piece, despite being a jab, has the ring of truth to it. After all the truth is a hard thing to take sometimes.

23 posted on 11/08/2002 7:08:10 PM PST by winner45
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To: Cultural Jihad
Libertarians tell us to hold on to our wallets.....I will hold on to a barf bag...we will all need one close by everytime this little gaggle honk out their daily vomit spew of anti-GOP jealousy.
24 posted on 11/08/2002 7:11:45 PM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Cultural Jihad
Whatever. All you die hard Republicrat freaks can make fun, but the fact is, spending under the Republicans over the last three years is up, what, 785 billion dollars? The fact is, under the GOP, spending is going up faster than it did during LBJ's Great Society Program, which once upon a time was universally condemned by conservatives.



What conservative would object if the spending were for national defense, but noooo, the GOP is spending billions and billions of dollars on the NEA, local education, etc. Wait till they spend even more of your money subsidizing the lazy-chair "Generation Medicare."

Watch your wallets. The 'tax and spend' party has been replaced by the 'tax cut and spend' party. Anybody here want to bet that in 2 years under Republican rule, spending will be up, government regulation will be up, and there will be no cuts in government spending?

And Coked out Roberts at NPR and the Corporation for Government Broadcasting will have tens of millions of more dollars than they would have under a demoncrat.

25 posted on 11/08/2002 7:14:16 PM PST by Jesse
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To: Mark
Another predictable result of a Republican-controlled Congress, Libertarians say: higher budget deficits.

Static analysis again? Bush tax cuts will cause more revenue to flow into the Treasury. Eliminate just a few programs, and voila, no more deficits.

26 posted on 11/08/2002 7:17:17 PM PST by copycat
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To: Jesse
And Coked out Roberts at NPR and the Corporation for Government Broadcasting will have tens of millions of more dollars than they would have under a demoncrat.

Try not to embarrass yourself.

27 posted on 11/08/2002 7:19:06 PM PST by copycat
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To: Jesse
Anybody here want to bet that in 2 years under Republican rule, spending will be up, government regulation will be up, and there will be no cuts in government spending?

Talk about a sure thing.

Lots of people want to dump on the Libertarians...it is so easy to do. As a political party, they are hopeless, but I see nobody wants to deny what you claim. Is it because they know it is true, regardless of who says it?

28 posted on 11/08/2002 7:20:06 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: winner45
If the pubbies really do us right, then I'll rejoin them. Otherwise I'll work with the Libertarians.

Or just lower your expectations and go along for the ride.

In reality, I hope the best for the RP - hopefully someone within their ranks has the guts and a convincing argument for small government. This is a huge opportunity.

29 posted on 11/08/2002 7:34:37 PM PST by Liberty Teeth
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To: truth_seeker
re: msg #8 from truth_seeker

While not taking issue with your msg #8, I'd like to point out that Browne's and the LP positions on 9/11 come from the notion that if the USA was configured in accordance with the LP paradigm then 9/11 would not have happened, for the sepecified isolationist foriegn policy would have prevented the US from recieving the ire of the jihadi-crazies. Further Browne and the LP assume the lack of income taxes and onerous regulation (courtesy of the USFG) would be more than sufficient stimulus to supercharge the ecomonic engine that is the US economy so that waves of imigration would be absorbed. Without a WAR on Drugs, crime related to the drug black market would abate while local govs would be better able to provide police services to their communities, and State budgets would not be strained by massive corrections departments. The resultant aire of LIBERTY and Prosperity would be infectious. Thus benefit to mankind would be disseminated.

There are valid arguments in favor of the LP positions regarding the War on Drugs and Open Imigration. The policy positions are not a waste of time as many Cato studies attest.

30 posted on 11/08/2002 7:38:21 PM PST by winner45
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To: Hank Kerchief
re: post #11 by Hank Kerchief

A good and relevant post.

31 posted on 11/08/2002 7:40:13 PM PST by winner45
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To: Cultural Jihad
re: msg #13 by Cultural Jihad

Foolishness is drowning oneself in humanist ideology.

It beats the alternative.

32 posted on 11/08/2002 7:43:14 PM PST by winner45
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To: winner45
If the republicans grow fed budget/power/intrusion/draconian trampling of the BOR, then the Libertarians may not be so insignificant.

Don't kid yourself. Republicans could be caught in a mass orgy on the House floor, and they'd still pull more votes than the sex-drugs-and-rock-n-roll Libertarians.

33 posted on 11/08/2002 7:43:30 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Mark
As usual, the rats have helpers in the other "conservative" party. As if rats were holding down spending! HAH!
34 posted on 11/08/2002 7:45:05 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: Hank Kerchief
Would any of you care to address the facts rather than the rhetoric. Who cares who said it, these are substantive accusations, which your reluctance to address indicates is an attempt to avoid the truth.

Under either Republican presidents or Republican Congresses, federal spending as a percentage of GDP has been generally declining since 1985, and is currently at it's lowest level since about 1965 (18.4%). Upon what, exactly, are these predictions of rampant spending increases based, since it's clearly not the historical record?

Federal Outlays, 1962 to 2001 (As a percentage of GDP)

Source: Congressional Budget Office.

35 posted on 11/08/2002 7:45:43 PM PST by general_re
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To: Roscoe
Re: msg #18 by Roscoe

Wave their magic wand?

No magic, just hard work.

36 posted on 11/08/2002 7:45:54 PM PST by winner45
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To: Cultural Jihad; Roscoe
Yeah, laugh all you want about the LP. They absolutely suck as a political party, fair enough. Now address what the article said. Nothing that was said is inaccurate.
37 posted on 11/08/2002 7:48:30 PM PST by rb22982
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To: winner45
I'd like to point out that Browne's and the LP positions on 9/11 come from the notion that if the USA was configured in accordance with the LP paradigm then 9/11 would not have happened, for the sepecified isolationist foriegn policy would have prevented the US from recieving the ire of the jihadi-crazies.

Oh, did I forget to say that the Libertarian Party is stupidly naive?

38 posted on 11/08/2002 7:48:53 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Jesse
bump for msg #25
39 posted on 11/08/2002 7:49:02 PM PST by winner45
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To: Mark
Libertarians are just RINOs without the R. Fiscally responsible to a T, yet socially to the left of Democrats. Usually have nothing to add except to suck votes away from valid conservatives. Perhaps when GW does some real cutting the Liberalterian Party can throw there votes our way. Never mind they are sooooooo superior to us. Smug to a fault. They get 3-5% of our votes and then tell everyone what to do.

Pray for GW and the Truth

40 posted on 11/08/2002 7:50:32 PM PST by bray
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