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Now that GOP controls Congress, hold onto your wallet, Libertarians say
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| 11/7/2002
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Posted on 11/08/2002 5:55:01 PM PST by winner45
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To: sinkspur
re: msg #6 by sinkspur
The Libertarians continue to sink into insignificance.
If the republicans grow fed budget/power/intrusion/draconian trampling of the BOR, then the Libertarians may not be so insignificant.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:03:46 PM PST
by
winner45
To: Roscoe
Wave their magic wand? Here is the Libertarian recipe for unhappiness: "If only everyone thought as I do, then I would be happy."
To: demkicker
re: msg #7 from demkicker
Why would ANYONE get their shorts in a kink over a SPECULATIVE CONCERN FROM A LIBERTARIAN?
I don't know. Why would they? Unless, they know in their hearts that the LP piece, despite being a jab, has the ring of truth to it. After all the truth is a hard thing to take sometimes.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:08:10 PM PST
by
winner45
To: Cultural Jihad
Libertarians tell us to hold on to our wallets.....I will hold on to a barf bag...we will all need one close by everytime this little gaggle honk out their daily vomit spew of anti-GOP jealousy.
To: Cultural Jihad
Whatever. All you die hard Republicrat freaks can make fun, but the fact is, spending under the Republicans over the last three years is up, what, 785 billion dollars? The fact is, under the GOP, spending is going up faster than it did during LBJ's Great Society Program, which once upon a time was universally condemned by conservatives.
What conservative would object if the spending were for national defense, but noooo, the GOP is spending billions and billions of dollars on the NEA, local education, etc. Wait till they spend even more of your money subsidizing the lazy-chair "Generation Medicare."
Watch your wallets. The 'tax and spend' party has been replaced by the 'tax cut and spend' party. Anybody here want to bet that in 2 years under Republican rule, spending will be up, government regulation will be up, and there will be no cuts in government spending?
And Coked out Roberts at NPR and the Corporation for Government Broadcasting will have tens of millions of more dollars than they would have under a demoncrat.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:14:16 PM PST
by
Jesse
To: Mark
Another predictable result of a Republican-controlled Congress, Libertarians say: higher budget deficits. Static analysis again? Bush tax cuts will cause more revenue to flow into the Treasury. Eliminate just a few programs, and voila, no more deficits.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:17:17 PM PST
by
copycat
To: Jesse
And Coked out Roberts at NPR and the Corporation for Government Broadcasting will have tens of millions of more dollars than they would have under a demoncrat. Try not to embarrass yourself.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:19:06 PM PST
by
copycat
To: Jesse
Anybody here want to bet that in 2 years under Republican rule, spending will be up, government regulation will be up, and there will be no cuts in government spending? Talk about a sure thing.
Lots of people want to dump on the Libertarians...it is so easy to do. As a political party, they are hopeless, but I see nobody wants to deny what you claim. Is it because they know it is true, regardless of who says it?
To: winner45
If the pubbies really do us right, then I'll rejoin them. Otherwise I'll work with the Libertarians. Or just lower your expectations and go along for the ride.
In reality, I hope the best for the RP - hopefully someone within their ranks has the guts and a convincing argument for small government. This is a huge opportunity.
To: truth_seeker
re: msg #8 from truth_seeker
While not taking issue with your msg #8, I'd like to point out that Browne's and the LP positions on 9/11 come from the notion that if the USA was configured in accordance with the LP paradigm then 9/11 would not have happened, for the sepecified isolationist foriegn policy would have prevented the US from recieving the ire of the jihadi-crazies. Further Browne and the LP assume the lack of income taxes and onerous regulation (courtesy of the USFG) would be more than sufficient stimulus to supercharge the ecomonic engine that is the US economy so that waves of imigration would be absorbed. Without a WAR on Drugs, crime related to the drug black market would abate while local govs would be better able to provide police services to their communities, and State budgets would not be strained by massive corrections departments. The resultant aire of LIBERTY and Prosperity would be infectious. Thus benefit to mankind would be disseminated.
There are valid arguments in favor of the LP positions regarding the War on Drugs and Open Imigration. The policy positions are not a waste of time as many Cato studies attest.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:38:21 PM PST
by
winner45
To: Hank Kerchief
re: post #11 by Hank Kerchief
A good and relevant post.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:40:13 PM PST
by
winner45
To: Cultural Jihad
re: msg #13 by Cultural Jihad
Foolishness is drowning oneself in humanist ideology.
It beats the alternative.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:43:14 PM PST
by
winner45
To: winner45
If the republicans grow fed budget/power/intrusion/draconian trampling of the BOR, then the Libertarians may not be so insignificant.Don't kid yourself. Republicans could be caught in a mass orgy on the House floor, and they'd still pull more votes than the sex-drugs-and-rock-n-roll Libertarians.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:43:30 PM PST
by
sinkspur
To: Mark
As usual, the rats have helpers in the other "conservative" party. As if rats were holding down spending! HAH!
To: Hank Kerchief
Would any of you care to address the facts rather than the rhetoric. Who cares who said it, these are substantive accusations, which your reluctance to address indicates is an attempt to avoid the truth. Under either Republican presidents or Republican Congresses, federal spending as a percentage of GDP has been generally declining since 1985, and is currently at it's lowest level since about 1965 (18.4%). Upon what, exactly, are these predictions of rampant spending increases based, since it's clearly not the historical record?
Federal Outlays, 1962 to 2001 (As a percentage of GDP)
![](http://www.cbo.gov/docimages/352101.gif)
Source: Congressional Budget Office.
To: Roscoe
Re: msg #18 by Roscoe
Wave their magic wand?
No magic, just hard work.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:45:54 PM PST
by
winner45
To: Cultural Jihad; Roscoe
Yeah, laugh all you want about the LP. They absolutely suck as a political party, fair enough. Now address what the article said. Nothing that was said is inaccurate.
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:48:30 PM PST
by
rb22982
To: winner45
I'd like to point out that Browne's and the LP positions on 9/11 come from the notion that if the USA was configured in accordance with the LP paradigm then 9/11 would not have happened, for the sepecified isolationist foriegn policy would have prevented the US from recieving the ire of the jihadi-crazies. Oh, did I forget to say that the Libertarian Party is stupidly naive?
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:48:53 PM PST
by
sinkspur
To: Jesse
bump for msg #25
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:49:02 PM PST
by
winner45
To: Mark
Libertarians are just RINOs without the R. Fiscally responsible to a T, yet socially to the left of Democrats. Usually have nothing to add except to suck votes away from valid conservatives. Perhaps when GW does some real cutting the Liberalterian Party can throw there votes our way. Never mind they are sooooooo superior to us. Smug to a fault. They get 3-5% of our votes and then tell everyone what to do.
Pray for GW and the Truth
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posted on
11/08/2002 7:50:32 PM PST
by
bray
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