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1 posted on 11/07/2002 6:25:30 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Is this a vanity? Where are those vanity links you like to post?
2 posted on 11/07/2002 6:26:40 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Illbay

"Another Vanity on Vanities" by Jim Robinson

"Please help us improve the news to noise ratio - post your rant as a reply rather than a vanity post" by Jim Robinson

"Vanity: Please help prevent the vanity explosion" by Jim Robinson

FReegards


4 posted on 11/07/2002 6:35:13 AM PST by dinasour
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To: Illbay
Lott needs to step down. He is like an old general, in that his "battlefield" tactics are well-known. We need someone who can surprise the Dims. Hit 'em where they least expect it. Hit them from all sides. And above all, hit them HARD!

Someone with new ideas. Enough of this 'ol boy club. Kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down. And never, ever, let up...

8 posted on 11/07/2002 6:37:11 AM PST by donozark
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To: Illbay
Are any freeper spine-transplant surgeons here today?
10 posted on 11/07/2002 6:37:59 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Illbay
Asking us to advise Lott to grow a spine, is like asking Hitlery to have a heart.

I think Lott needs to give up the reins to someone else. That's the best advice I can think of at the moment.
11 posted on 11/07/2002 6:41:21 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Illbay
"The tale of Election 2002 is told in the delusions of a bunch of rednecks who haven't figured out that they lost 140 years ago."

Sure..... can't wait to be first in line to brainstorm with someone who thinks this about those of us who support Southern Confederate heritage.

13 posted on 11/07/2002 6:42:20 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Illbay
Do we feel that we need a NEW Senate Majority Leader? I, for one, would like to see Kyl or Nickles. On the other hand, we could just test them all: "Okay, Senator...cough, please."



15 posted on 11/07/2002 6:45:42 AM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: Illbay
Oh, all ribbing aside, I agree with your vanity post.
17 posted on 11/07/2002 6:47:29 AM PST by MrB
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To: Illbay
Hey, thread pest!

"Another Vanity on Vanities" by Jim Robinson

"Please help us improve the news to noise ratio - post your rant as a reply rather than a vanity post" by Jim Robinson

"Vanity: Please help prevent the vanity explosion" by Jim Robinson

25 posted on 11/07/2002 7:05:46 AM PST by petuniasevan
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To: Illbay
I would suggest that Job 1 for conservatives is to resist the urge to turn to internal bickering. Let's save that for after we get up to 60 Senators. Let's leave the self-immolation for the Democrats.

Our job #1 right now should be the defeat of Brown Roots.

After that, job #2 should be identifying and building grassroots networks for solid conservative candidates for 2003's few elections and for 2004's complete slate of elections.

The idea is NOT to get the slimmest of majorities and then start internal catfighting. Save that for where our own internal battles, and the wounds they cause, won't endanger our tenuous hold on the reigns of government.

35 posted on 11/07/2002 7:31:26 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Illbay
The next agenda item for FR should be to help Skooz pay off his student loan.

Pass the hat, please. Thanks.

39 posted on 11/07/2002 7:37:39 AM PST by Skooz
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To: Illbay
The most important thing is the content of your post. With all the rules and rulers around here it is difficult to get a new topic discussed. So I say, post away and damn the torpedos.
43 posted on 11/07/2002 7:45:37 AM PST by nygoose
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To: Illbay; Jim Robinson; Bob J
I thoroughly agree with your point. I've put some thought into the matter, and offer the following plan:

1. Possible contenders to Trent Lott as Majority Leader have withdrawn their hats from the ring. So, he's going to get the post, and the ability to get things done in the Senate will depend on him.

2. I suggest a thorough FReep of Trent Lott, to happen in two forms:

a. A fine demonstration by the exellent folks at the D.C. Chapter, as soon as Lott is back in his offices, and as soon as certain critical matters, spelled out below, have been taken care of.

b. A FReep by e-mail of Lott, subject to the same conditions.

3. The objects of this FReep will be:

a. Reorganization of the Senate as soon as the lameduck session begins, not waiting until January. That means a new Majority Leader, new Committee Chairs, and new membership to reflect the new Republican majority. The theme of this is: "The Majority / We Have It / Let's Use It" (Jim Talent will be seated immediately, as will What's-His-Name from Minnesota who may not vote with Lott but certainly will not vote with Daschle. So the Republicans will have a majority now, not even relying on a tie-breaking vote by Cheney.)

b. The Senate has about fifty bills bottled up, thanks to Daschle, which have already been passed by the House. The most important of these is Homeland Security. The themes of this are: "Free / the Daschle / Fifty" and "Homeland / Security / Now" (As you can see, all themes are stated in a way that can immediately appear on posters.)

c. Immediate Committee hearings on judicial nominees who have not gotten them, and immediate floor votes on those who were highly qualified but were savaged by Leahy's Committee by votes of 10-9. The themes of this effort are: "Justice / for the Judges / Means Justice / for America" and "'Highly-Qualified' / Is Fine With Us"

4. Before we go public, I think we should have a thread on FR chaired by Jim Robinson, to set our themes and approaches. There's been substantial trashing of Trent Lott on FR such as Trent ("Vacant") Lott, and references to "a spinal transplant." He's there, he's going to stay there, and we have to work with him and through him. On rhetoric and approaches, I think we should have guidance from JimRob before we go public. (I confess my own guilt in this matter.)

5. In addition to FReeping Lott, we should FReep the media. Again, we have to get our act together and be ON MESSAGE before we do this. I think the first demonstration outside Lott's office will get more press coverage than our Rallies on the Mall have done, for two reasons -- this is the FIRST such demonstration directed at Lott, and it is a man-bites-dog story because we support Lott and yet are demonstrating to push him to do certain things. The media FReep should be three days before the office demonstration, to get the word out.

6. Last but by no means least, we need to talk to the American people about the agenda in the Senate. We have a medium to do that -- talk radio. We should target the whole spectrum from the top national hosts like Rush, to the regional leaders like Jerry Agar, 50,000 watts in the afternoon out of Raleigh, NC. Again, we MUST be ON MESSAGE before we do this. A thread on FR on the day selected could allow FReepers to report in, as they make it on-air on various shows. The talk radio FReep should be two days before the demonstration, to encourage participation by all who can make it.

Because there is a critical role in this for JimRob, I have flagged him with this response. Also, because the FR Network might want to be involved, I have flagged Bob J. I think I've identified the three main issues -- reorganize the Senate now, pass Homeland Security and the other captive bills, and get some judges confirmed. (We might specifically focus on Dennis Sheed, to pay a last compliment to Strom Thurmond.) But, the discussion thread I propose might result in changes in priorities. To hold our focus, I suggest that we come out of that discussion with a bullet list of no more than three items, and guidelines on language to be used in the demonstration and in the FReeps of Lott, of the media, and of talk radio.

Once we have our program set, then we should seek out our natural allies among other interested organizations, both to help in getting the word out, and to pump the numbers in the demonstration itself.

Hope these thoughts are useful.

Respectfully Submitted,

Congressman Billybob

On American Politics

Click for "to Restore Trust in America"

56 posted on 11/07/2002 8:13:37 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: Illbay
also.....we need to push hard for a complete overhaul of the tax code.
111 posted on 11/07/2002 3:27:22 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Illbay
They don't accomodate; they see any attempt to "reach out" to them as weakness, and they take full advantage.

Sounds like the terrorists and nation-state thugs we are also fighting. The Democrats must reform from the fiscally predatory and emotionally mercenary travesties they are now, or we must firmly keep them in check and make the most of the 12-18 months left to us. No compromise.

We do not have 24 months left. Remember that the presidential cycle starts almost 12 months before elections now, so in terms of effective activism, we should realistically forecast only 12 precious months of work left available to us. The Daschle Democrats' obstructionism has been far more effective than many of us would care to admit; they took what could have been three years of conservative activism and bled us to one.

112 posted on 11/07/2002 4:18:28 PM PST by tyen
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To: Illbay
I have long been one of Trent Lott's most vocal critics. But I will concede that he at least had the good grace to admit in his press conference early Wednesday morning that he "was getting a second chance to do this thing (i.e., the Majority Leader position)." This time, he said, he would "try to do it better."

So he recognizes that his first essay was fraught with incompetence and misplaced trust. If re-elected, I hope the recognition will preclude the same mistakes. Including the grossly misnamed "power sharing."

114 posted on 11/07/2002 4:38:18 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Illbay
Nancy Pelosi – California 59 Socialists in Congress
117 posted on 11/07/2002 7:22:29 PM PST by USA21
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To: Illbay
ping
120 posted on 11/08/2002 6:27:18 AM PST by smoking camels
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To: Illbay
Mr. Lott may not have a spine. But he has a ramrod now inserted by President Bush that should serve as well. If Lott wants to stay Senate Majority leader, then I think he will act to implement Bush's agenda. Realistically no other Republican Senator is going to challenge him now. So as long as he "ramrods" Bush's agenda, and keeps the other Republican Senators in line, then I guess we can live with the situation.
123 posted on 11/10/2002 8:57:59 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: Illbay
I don't trust or like Trent Lott but he did say there should be troops on the border. That's a good start. Maybe he wants to change his image. Let's hope for the best. For victory & freedom!!!
124 posted on 11/10/2002 9:01:45 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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