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Left-Wing Hates America, Says Author
CNSNEWS.com ^ | Michael L. Betsch

Posted on 11/07/2002 4:21:29 AM PST by kattracks

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To: Adder
The "standards" will be developed by educators...the very same ones who have given us the hate America first campaign. I could be wrong, but I have NOT heard that there will be any sort of ciricculum review to go along with the federal dollars.

My hope is this; that "W" makes good on his promise of ceding control back to the local level. And that locals will once again take an active role in their local schools. That's a big if, but IMO one of the primary reasons for lack of participation on the local level was due to federalizing and NEAing the curriculum. One size fits all has not and will not work, because it tends towards the lowest common denominator. That's OK for RATS, but of course it only serves the interests of RATS.

Gotta run for now; will check in later...

FGS

41 posted on 11/07/2002 10:31:37 AM PST by ForGod'sSake
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To: TxBec; kattracks
BOOKMARKED.
BUMP
42 posted on 11/07/2002 10:48:38 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Mudboy Slim
That statement is correct my friend. So very true.
43 posted on 11/07/2002 3:18:33 PM PST by goldilucky
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
Microsoft is God's gift to America and anything that's good for them is good for the United States. Amen.
44 posted on 11/07/2002 3:56:38 PM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
Don't be an ass. MicroSoft is a business. It's objectives are far different than a governments and thus, gets judged differently.

The US tolerates opinion and encourages freedom. MicroSoft's behavior is anything but tolerant. A very stupid analogy. One that ignores the basis of our political system and the principles of FREE Market economics.

Microsoft COMPETES, and does it well, and that is called free market economics buddy!

Microsoft's job is not to be "tolerant" and give their competitors a break. Sun Micrososystems would love to see Microsoft be "tolerant" and "sensitive"..

Their competitors can't stand Microsoft's success and continuously try to win market share in the courts.

45 posted on 11/07/2002 4:04:43 PM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: thisiskubrick
Microsoft COMPETES, and does it well, and that is called free market economics buddy!

Actually, what MicroSoft does is inimical to Free Market Economics as espoused by F. A. Hayek and Friedman, two of the greatest Free Market Economists this country has ever known.
They both hold that monopolies that limit choice are bad for free markets, akin to Socialist government control of resources.
You seem to be telling me you know more than they do. I'm impressed.
Please explain why limiting choice and eliminating competition is good for free markets.
Sounds positively Keynsian.
46 posted on 11/07/2002 6:10:37 PM PST by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: thisiskubrick
Microsoft is God's gift to America and anything that's good for them is good for the United States. Amen.

I do hope this is a joke. Or a troll.
Either way, you have me shaking my head. Good job.
47 posted on 11/07/2002 6:12:14 PM PST by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: kattracks
For example, he said the Left hates Christianity's influence in American society because it is an "intolerant" religion.

Hmm, sounds kind of like why this country was founded in the first place. Freedom to practice religion as you choose. Despicable attitude, and they call us the hate mongers.

48 posted on 11/07/2002 6:14:45 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: thisiskubrick
Microsoft COMPETES, and does it well . . .

It ceased competing years ago. Now it merely annihilates, engulfs, and devours.

If there were true competition in the operating system world, Microsoft would have collapsed a fortnight after it released Windows ME.

49 posted on 11/07/2002 6:17:05 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: The Duke
Well Said! time to destroy them!
50 posted on 11/07/2002 6:25:38 PM PST by Cabbages and Kings
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
They don't limit choice. You can buy Apple, Linux, Palm, whatever. Crikey, you can get a Linux desktop with Star Office FOR FREE these days, and if that isn't competition I don't know what is.

Microsoft will always have competitors. It is funny how their competitive efforts get described as "anti competitive". Sun, Oracle, and the rest of them are still in business. IBM is still a massive competitor to MS in the several arenas.

It's like criticising Wal-Mart for shutting down mom-and-pop shops. Wal-Mart does a better job because of their scale.

There ARE companies that successfully compete with MS. They are Adobe, Intuit, Macromedia, the list goes on and on. Significantly, they don't spend nearly as much money as Sun and Oracle on litigation, instead they focus on making great products.

There are plenty of areas to compete with MS. The fight for mobile device software is still wide open. It is up to other companies to successfully compete in this arena.
51 posted on 11/07/2002 6:29:28 PM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: Poohbah
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52 posted on 11/07/2002 6:35:02 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Kevin Curry
It ceased competing years ago. Now it merely annihilates, engulfs, and devours.

If there were true competition in the operating system world, Microsoft would have collapsed a fortnight after it released Windows ME. It annihiliates/engulf/devours just like any other large American corporation, and it still has to vigorously compete against other large corporations doing the same thing.

All large American companies "annihilate/engulf/devour" smaller companies. I think Cisco has devoured half the networking hardware industry.

Microsoft can't annihilate Java or Linux, they must COMPETE with it. They can't engulf/devour IBM, Sun, or Oracle - they will compete with them.

ME was just a stopgap until Win2K and WinXP came out, it was always intended as the last release in the Win9X line. ME was just a footstep in a larger strategy. MS has largely ditched the Win9X/Me codebase.

And, don't forget Linux DID steadily gain ground during that time.

Now, do you actually have any arguments that will hold water?

53 posted on 11/07/2002 6:41:34 PM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: thisiskubrick
They don't limit choice.

MicroSoft continuously takes business standards and changes them. MicroSoft works AGAINST interoperability.
Look at what they did to Kodak. The took an existing Kodak standard for digital imaging and changed it and included it in Windows XP. What's Kodak's recourse? They developed the software with no help from MS on low-level APIs or System Calls and then MS re-engineers their product and kills their investment. You can call that competitive all you want, but there's no competition.
They're doing it with Adobe, trying to replace the PDF format.
Apple had no choice but to accept Office and IE on their system. Otherwise, they'd be a trivia question.
Sun's beef was MS re-engineered Java into J++ and changed it such that it was a.) not compatible b.) against the license agreement and c.) less secure. Who would want their hard work to be ripped off and changed so that it's reputation was killed?
What if someone was doing this to you in your line of work? What if I was the one laughing at you because I thought MS was 'God's gift to America and you were a liberal loser?'
I have a feeling you're more stockholder than someone who understands technology or economics. MS bottling up your personal information in Passport and keeping it 'secure' (good luck). Or the fact that 'free' doesn't mean anything if it's not interoperable.
The one thing that makes me happy is realizing that MS is painting themselves in a corner. While suckers like you are happy that MS can go through their hard drive and report to Hollywood whatever MP3s you have (I'm sure you've already loaded the service pack that authorizes this), some of us choose otherwise. I like my privacy. I like only ME knowing what's on MY drive (it's all legal, thank you.)
But that's okay, since MS is your god. They can check whatever they want. Keep their tabs on you. Smart. Real smart.
54 posted on 11/07/2002 6:48:39 PM PST by dyed_in_the_wool
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To: conservativemusician
As I helped him off the ground, I told him his broken nose was his fault and I would be glad to explain it to him further. He said no further explanation would be necessary and left. Needless to say, I have a new meter reader and never heard from him again.While I regret having struck the man, it amazed me how pervasive this sort of thinking was and is, in NY of all places.

You've got 'nads. Hope you've got a good attorney if you plan to continue "educating" punks like your last meter reader....

55 posted on 11/07/2002 7:02:53 PM PST by freebilly
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To: kattracks
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56 posted on 11/07/2002 9:10:23 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Add George H.W. Bush reneguing on his "No new Taxes" pledge and I think we have it covered.

Remeber at that time H.W. Bush was trying to get support for the Gulf war. He needed the Rats ...basically the Rats said they'd support the war in return for putting taxes back on the table of budget negotiations. He did, and they sandbagged him. Every one of the weasels ran on the platform of "Bush broke his No-New-Taxes" pledge during that year, and Bush was basically left to twist in the wind, paving the way for the Sink-Meister in '92. I think GW has learned the lesson and he's not falling for it.

Ok ...that was a little off topic, but I can't stand seeing the "Bush broke his No New Taxes" pledge without setting the record straight. Eight years of seing the White House turned into a septic tank still has me a little steamed.

57 posted on 11/07/2002 9:29:20 PM PST by YankeeReb
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
MicroSoft continuously takes business standards and changes them. MicroSoft works AGAINST interoperability. Look at what they did to Kodak. The took an existing Kodak standard for digital imaging...

Interoperability and standards are the bread and butter of competition in technology. Every company tries to become "the standard". This is how they compete! There is nothing wrong with changing "business standards". Every other company does the same thing. The name of the game is "embrace and extend" - embrace your competitor's standard and extend it, then become that "standard".

If Kodak wants to succeed with their standard, they need to continually improve it, add the features that Microsoft added, and so on.

I don't know what you mean by "re-engineering" their product, unless you mean reverse engineering. In any case it's the same thing that AMD and many other companies do.

As far as J++ goes.. Sun has foolishly tried to maintain total control over the Java language (their license agreement is truly odious), and has complained loudly about MS porting their GUI controls to Java. But all that's moot because J++ has failed in the marketplace. Sun has WON the Java fight.

The Java story shows that Sun CAN compete with Microsoft, however this victory may be short lived as they foolishly waste this gain.

With .NET and the CLR, Microsoft is making their framework language independent - so you can run C#, C++, Python, whatever, and have easy portability from the desktop to mobile devices, and enjoy most of the same benefits of "Java"-like features (garbage collection, hardware independence, etc.)

If Sun wants to win they need to generalise the Java VM to handle other languages, ease up their licensing arrangements to encourage adoption by other large companies (including MS).. and so on.

Microsoft wins the standards battles because they don't give away the store (as IBM did in the old days), but their licensing arrangements aren't as paranoid as Apple or Sun's. They strike the right balance for maximum competitve advantage, and everyone else complains that they stole their lunch.

Of COURSE they are trying to replace the PDF format. They will fail, unless they come up with something that is better, again this is competition. The PDF format is entrenched and Adobe is winning that battle. Adobe is also a master of standards competition. They are continually improving the standard, and they make the spec publically available on their website, if you care to read it. You can even legally implement your own PDF viewer and editor.

...MS bottling up your personal information in Passport and keeping it 'secure' (good luck). Or the fact that 'free' doesn't mean anything if it's not interoperable. The one thing that makes me happy is realizing that MS is painting themselves in a corner. While suckers like you are happy that MS can go through their hard drive and report to Hollywood whatever MP3s you have (I'm sure you've already loaded the service pack that authorizes this), some of us choose otherwise. I like my privacy. I like only ME knowing what's on MY drive (it's all legal, thank you.)

So here we get to the paranoia bits that MS-haters love to engage in. Well, MS couldn't give a rip (no pun intended) as to what MP3's you listen to. It is the RIAA and the record industry that is strong-arming them into placing copying restrictions into Windows Media Player. As the saying goes, piracy is "the killer app". However in the long term, there will have to be a solution to digital rights management.

As for passport, if MS isn't your cup of tea, trust another large corporation like Yahoo or, in the future, possibly your bank. There are a LOT of large corporations that are entrusted with keeping your information safe, and I don't see why I should trust any of them any more (or less) than Microsoft. I will say one thing though - I definitely don't get as much email spam from MS.

What if someone was doing this to you in your line of work? What if I was the one laughing at you because I thought MS was 'God's gift to America and you were a liberal loser?' .. I have a feeling you're more stockholder than someone who understands technology or economics.

If you are in the tech industry, and/or have worked for a company that has failed to compete with MS, then yes, that would suck. On the other hand, that is also something called competition.

I wouldn't laugh at anybody that has lost this game, but I will say that you can win in technology by understanding the standards game and how it's played. Most companies that try to compete with MS bite off more than they can chew.

Most companies don't have a frickin' clue when it comes to standards competition and they get left in the dust by the likes of MS or Adobe - and then they complain to the goverment that their loss was unfair.

(Disclaimer - For the record, I do not work at MS.) I am Kubrick - the greatest film director of all time. Thank you for reading.

58 posted on 11/07/2002 10:58:15 PM PST by thisiskubrick
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To: goldilucky
I agree with you, my FRiend...America is certainly far from perfect and I hope we never stop trying to make it better, but there ain't never been a greater society in the History of Mankind, IMHO!!

Leftist RATS are LOATHE to admit this...MUD

59 posted on 11/08/2002 5:42:54 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: kattracks
Bump for a great article.
60 posted on 11/08/2002 6:28:46 AM PST by laredo44
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