California Election Results

self ^ | 11-6-02 | Bones McCoy

[bonesmccoy]

California Election results for governor

It appears to me that the GOP is consistently losing the statewide offices because of voting in three counties. Virtually the entire state went for Simon with the exception of Oakland, San Francisco, and Los Angeles counties.

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1998 results

From the standpoint of the number of counties taken, Simon did better than Lungren (though the popular vote was much different).

[Munson]

Post materialist issues and values are highly importaint amoung democrat voters. That's what they mean by social issues. Because Simon was regressive to the social left they voted for Davis no matter what even if the economy tanks under Gov Low Beam.

[rightwing2]

I am so sick and tired of seeing people on the right side of the political spectrum excuse inept candidates just because they are "real" Conservatives. We who pour our sweat, tears, money, and voluntary labor into these campaigns deserve top-of-the-ticket candidates who know how to deliver votes. California is currently dominated by Democrats largely (though not exclusively) because we have had a string of pathetic candidates and party leaders going back to at least the early 1990's. Huffington, Fong, Campbell, Lungren, Simon -- the list goes on.

FYI, Simon is no real conservative. Although he is nominally pro-life, he promised pro-abortion folks that he would do nothing to restrict or infringe on a woman's "right" to choose abortion if elected Governor. Further, he warmed to homosexual civic unions in pursuit of the gay/social liberal vote in CA. He was weak on immigration issues and refused to take a firm stand against illegal immigration. However, he was a lot better than the President's hand picked candidate pro-gay, pro-partial birth extremist Dick Riorden who was slightly to the left of Bill Clinton and Gray Davis and most issues. That is why I was thrilled to see him beat Riorden and at the very thought that even a nominally pro-life moderate to moderate conservative like Simon might win the Governorship in my former home state of California. Alas, it was not to be.

True, Simon didn't run the best race, but with more help from Bush late in the game he would have won. Why? Because Davis was so unpopular that many RATS were willing to elect a moderate GOPer like Simon instead. I do agree with you about the sorry GOP candidates we have had lately. With the exception of Lungren they were pretty much all pro-abortion liberals who I refused to support while living in CA until 1999. However, I strongly disagree with you in blaming the state GOP and elected officials for the unfortunate string of Republican defeats. Frankly, the GOP did very well this time around and came very close to winning a few statewide races including the Governorship itself! The fact is the CA State GOP is swimming uphill against a illegal immigrant infested RAT tide which has transformed California from a GOP leaning state to a veritable RAT stronghold in a mere eight years.

[Cicero]

The California Republican party consists of at least three groups: the hard-core conservatives who stayed home when Bob Dole got the nomination; the moderate conservatives who are not big on the issues but vote Republican; the country-club, big tent Republicans who are vocally pro-abort.

Abortion is unquestionably the most divisive issue. Conservative pro-lifers will NEVER vote for a strong pro-abort. Moderate conservatives think other issues are more important. Country-clubbers are adamantly pro-abort. Something has to give, and IMHO it's the fat-cat country-clubbers. They will never win California again if they keep trying to push their pro-abort views down the throat of the party. They are the ones who need to compromise. They need to choose whether abortion is so important to them that they are willing to keep electing people like Gray Davis who will wreck the state's economy.

Simon didn't run a bad campaign. He needed money to get around the media blackout, and he didn't get it. I fault Karl Rove AND the local RINOs, who promised Rove they would produce big money for the party and then reneged when Riordan was shot down. Riordan never would have won if he had gotten the nomination, because the conservatives would have all stayed home. The Fat Cats have to understand that.

The man who finally destroyed the California Republican party was Pete Wilson, a big-tent, pro-abort RINO. He and his friends are NOT the answer. These guys have got to compromise a little if the Dems are ever to be defeated again out there.

[rockfish59]

So glad I moved out 3 years ago!

You'd think from that map that the coast would break off and float to China.

Time to split the state north/south, ey?

[Flashman_at_the_charge]

Bugger. :-(

[Argus]

Better to split east from west.

The Democrats have what they want now - a one party socialist dictatorship in California. But in order to proceed with the redistribution of income, there's got to be some income to begin with. It won't come from the usual sources - private enterprise - because they're driving all that out of the state. There will be little left to tax or confiscate. Creative solutions will be necessary. By next year, Gray will be renting out the public schools as storage sites for radioactive waste. What the hell, they're already toxic.

[Pining_4_TX]

The same thing is happening in Texas. In spite of the good election results, I'm afraid that the US is in danger of dissolving into competing ethnic groups. We'll look like a combo of Yugoslavia and Mexico. Not a pretty thought.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

Damn. Look at this, if Simon would have gotten the votes that Lundgren did, he would have won. Bottom line. And no, Bush should not have abandoned this race so early, although he won the Senate for us, this was his only mistake.

Some interesting thoughts...

1. Look at the vote drop for Davis since the last election. Huge.

2. Between Simon, Lautenberg, and Hillary, I can't decide who ran a more stealth campaign. Probably have to say Simon. I never heard from him, about him, unless it was something bad in the general media. Is he still sitting on his warchest waiting to get in the 'last minute ads'?? Despite that, it was very close

3. OTOH, CA took one for the rest of the country. The amount of money the D's sunk here was staggering. They sure could have used that money elsewhere, probably, but they couldn't afford to.

4. Best line from last night, forget who said it...'if CA supposedly trends ahead of the rest of the country and the best the Democrats can do is Davis, what does that say about the future of the Democrats nationwide?'...says it all.

2006 will be our year, after 4 more years of Davis it will get worse. I just hope the state has enough inertia, economically, to hold out until then. Fortunately, Bush can counteract some of the local damage and that will help.

[Hostage]

Don't know if this was previously posted but does anyone know if the billion dollar bond measure, the largest in the state's history, was voted on and if so whether it passed?

[Seruzawa]

My great-grandfather settled in Pasadena in the late 1800's. We have old glassslide photos of Pasadena when it was little more than a one-horse town.

But I saw the writing on the wall and moved to Utah in 1982. It ain't perfect, but the Mormons are certainly better to deal with the than filthy demoncRATS. I get to shoot and hunt and fish and camp and do all sorts of other things quite easily. Heck I bought a couple of 30round AR-15 mags at the last gun show. And If I want to buy a gun at a dealer it only takes about 2 minutes to do the instant check and I'm on my way home with my purchase.

[bonesmccoy]

WOW! What a great idea!

SIMON FOR SENATE!!!

[ambrose]

The Democrat clean sweep in California politics

Well, not so sure if it has been a clean sweep yet... McClintock may pull this out on absentees...

[let freedom sing]

I reluctantly voted for the inept Simon...the Republican party will surely have a great opportunity in 2006, assuming they aren't as inept at the Simon campaign was.

Loose lips sink ships-- I'm tired of hearing all the Morning Quarter-backing about the failure of the Simon campaign.

Davi$ bought the female vote over abortion-abortion-abortion-emotion, while RINOs looked back at Reardon, turned into a pillar of useless, whining salt, and got rubbed into the pavlovian, feminist psyche.

If there's any lesson to be learned here, it's "STAND BY YOUR MAN."

[Dog Gone]

Your point is valid. The mess in California that has been created by Davis is real, and it's a long-term problem. Even if Simon had won, and the GOP had taken over the Legislature in Sacramento, it's not as if those problems would magically disappear. California has to pay the piper, regardless of who is in power.

It's going to require some significant cuts in state spending. Unpopular cuts. Either that, or it's going to require a significant tax hike on businesses and residents in California.

That doesn't even begin to address the spending that will be needed to improve California's infrastructure for the expected 20 million new residents expected within 20 years.

Did the high-speed train measure pass, too?

Bottom line is that the Democrats have created a terrible mess in California. It really hasn't hit the fan yet, and I think the voters will take it out on the party in power when it does. In this case, that will be the Democrats.

[let freedom sing]

SIMON FOR SENATE!!!

I don't think he'd do it, and I don't expect he'd make the sacrifice to win a humble, DC Representative seat--but he's got to start somewhere if he wants to go anywhere in politics and make a difference.

[bonesmccoy]

That's true of some of the people in the LA/Oakland/SF inner city. However, the reality is that if GOP activists show up in those areas and have private corporate entities and non-profits; it can shift the local econ enough to stop the landslide voting habits.

Why should the GOP let Dem 501c3's dominate the gov't grant process?

The way I see it, the GOP should start up tons of 501c3's now. We should get federal grants and inject solid conservative nonprofits into the inner cities of California. By altering the federal grant revenue stream towards conservative 501c3's; you can actually reduce welfare rolls and stop the need for any use of the handout programs.

[bonesmccoy]

gee...thanks :{

almost hilarious if I wasn't paying for it personally.

Happy for you guys in MA though!

[bonesmccoy]

Dear D,

You're a great American. Your participation in the political process is testimony to our rights as citizens. Your DV system is further testimony to those same rights, regardless of what AOL-TW or ABC-DIS think.

Keep on producing and keep on shooting!

The more experience you have with the DV editing systems and the faster you can crank it out... the more formidable you become.

I share your analysis of the past campaign. The reason Davis wins in California is probably the vote in the South Central and Oakland area. The vote appears to be slanted to the left regardless of who runs. So, the candidate on the GOP ticket needs to either appeal to that group and divide them, or the candidate needs to so overwhelmingly appeal to others than it discounts the remainder.

Simon had a shot at this strategy when Davis irritated the Latino vote with his hypocrisy on immigration issues.

Suffice it to say, the Davis camp has a problem with having to walk the talk.

It seemed like as the campaign wore on, the GOP became less interested in having any of the top California statewide slots. After all, why should the GOP have to clean up a RAT mess?

[bonesmccoy]

$30 per vote?

Are you sure?

Geez... you're right!

70 million dollars / 3.1 million votes = 20-30 bucks per vote.

That's ridiculously expensive. Is that one of the most expensive Calif. gov's races in the history of the US?