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FBI Agents 'Miffed' that Gun Owner Contacted Media
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 11/05/02 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 11/05/2002 3:31:42 AM PST by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Prior to the capture of "Beltway Sniper" suspects John Allen Muhammad and John Lee Malvo, an unconfirmed number of Maryland gun owners received surprise visits from the FBI as part of the investigation. One such gun owner had a surprise of his own for the agents when they arrived at his home.

Jeff Brown of Gaithersburg, Md., was "a little nervous" when he heard the voicemail message from an FBI agent on the sniper task force who wanted to "visit" Brown at his home to check a .223 caliber semi-automatic rifle Brown purchased in 1993. Adding to that apprehension was the fact that Brown owns and drives a full-sized white panel van, the type of vehicle investigators believed the sniper was driving.

"I expected, actually, to be pulled over and spread-eagle on the street at some point," Brown told CNSNews.com Monday. "When he called, I knew their database had had a double hit. A white van and a .223 rifle? I knew they were coming."

In a subsequent telephone conversation, Metzger reportedly told Brown that agents merely wanted to verify the serial number of the rifle and confirm that it was, in fact, still physically in Brown's possession. The two scheduled an appointment to accomplish those goals.

But Brown later learned that the agents had tried at least once to make an unannounced visit, and only called because they were unable to catch him at home.

"Once I told some of my friends in the pro-gun community what was happening, they began to relate some stories to me about guys having their guns confiscated, for so-called 'ballistic fingerprinting,' and not getting their guns back," Brown explained. "I became alarmed."

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, said the attitude of the federal agents comes as a result of "years of accepting gun control as somehow useful for solving crimes."

"The [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms] went to the stores and got the lists of gun owners that had something that could fire a .223. But, it didn't solve the crime," Pratt noted. "The only reason we find that gun registration is 'useful' is for confiscation."

FBI Agents 'Were Not Happy'

Brown's apprehension prompted him to contact an attorney, who instructed him on preparing for the visit. So, when FBI Special Agent Greg Metzger and his partner arrived at Brown's home for their scheduled meeting, they were greeted by Brown and his wife, Mary, along with reporters and photographers from various media outlets.

As Brown described the situation, the agents were "a little bit miffed."

"They were not happy," he observed. "They just were not interested in being around any cameras."

The agents asked Brown to step outside the home, away from the television crew, to talk.

"Can we, uh ... come here," one of the agents said to Brown. Obliging, Brown stepped away from the door to speak with the agents, but still within view of the camera.

Brown began recapping the agreement he had made with Special Agent Metzger. But when one of the agents realized Brown was wearing a wireless microphone, he stopped the conversation short.

"Do you have a microphone on?" the agent asked as he reached toward the microphone clipped to Brown's shirt. Brown backed away and continued talking, but the agent interrupted him again.

"Can you do me a favor?" the agent asked. "Can you take the apparatus off that you have on? I'd like to speak to you privately."

Brown complied, but only after summoning his wife to serve as a witness to the conversation with the agents. Out of the camera's view, and believing they could not be heard, the agents challenged Brown about the presence of the media.

"They were belligerent, at that point, with me. They weren't threatening me or pushing me around or touching me or anything like that, but their mannerisms and attitude quickly became offended and belligerent," Brown recalled. "I was thinking to myself, 'See, this is what I was afraid would happen if you guys came into my house, especially if I was alone.'"

'Don't You Know People Are Dying?'

Parts of the conversation picked up by the camera's long-range microphone confirm Brown's account of what happened next.

"Why didn't you give us a chance to do what we said we were going to do instead of ambushing us with the media? Why didn't you trust us?" one agent asked.

Brown said it was not so much the words the agents used, as their attitude and body language that made him uncomfortable.

"There was some lecturing about it," he said recalling one comment that did unnerve him.

"One thing they said was, 'Don't you know people are dying and we're just trying to do our job?'" Brown recalled, "Of course, the inference was that I didn't care that there were people dying and I was trying to interfere with them doing their job."

During that conversation, the agents reportedly admitted that they had seized other rifles, allegedly with permission, to compare them to the ballistic evidence gathered from the crime scenes.

"They said, from some people, they do 'request' to take the gun with them and do 'ballistic fingerprinting,' as they call it," Brown recalled. "I just did not want to have my gun disappear."

Pratt believes the agents "developed an attitude," because Brown challenged their attempts to violate his constitutional rights.

"The FBI is trying to put this guy on a guilt trip because he's 'not cooperating' with the system but it's a totally useless system," Pratt argued. "They just assume that gun owners [are] all a bunch of suspects just for being gun owners and they should behave accordingly."

'They Were Doing It On Purpose'

At the request of Special Agent Metzger, Brown instructed the media to stay outside his home, where they could see what was happening through a plate glass window. Brown had the unloaded weapon displayed in plain sight for the inspection.

The agents followed Brown and his wife inside and confirmed the serial number on the rifle as they had said they wanted to do. But that was not the end of the encounter.

"After they checked, they started [questioning Brown again], and that's when my wife stepped in and told them to leave," Brown said, noting that his wife formerly worked in law enforcement.

Mary Brown believed the agents were attempting to agitate her husband, hoping he would say or do something to justify their confiscation of his rifle.

"I could tell that they were doing it on purpose and I didn't like what they were doing to you," she told her husband. "So, I decided to just jump right in."

The agents left the couple's property, as they were ordered to do.

Jeff Brown does not believe the agents' reaction to the presence of the media, or their "brow-beating" tactics were justified.

"I'm not here to make them feel happy. I have to make sure my rights are not violated. I wanted to help, but this is not Nazi Germany," he explained. "I looked [Metzger] right in the eye and said ... 'I don't care whether you're upset about being ambushed by the media. I felt I needed some witnesses here with me.'"

Brown, a member of the National Rifle Association and former candidate for public office in Maryland, was also upset by what he perceived as a lack of honesty on the part of the FBI.

"[Metzger] wasn't upfront with me, and I didn't have any guilty feelings about [contacting the media]," Brown said. "They weren't truthful with me. They didn't tell me all the truth. They only told me the part they wanted to hear."

A Message to Gun Owners?

Debbie Weierman, a spokeswoman for the FBI, said the bureau would not respond to any questions about the encounter, because the probe into the multiple murders was still in progress.

"We're not going to be able to get into any kind of a dialogue with you regarding any aspect of our investigation," she said.

Pratt believes the response of the agents to the presence of the media shows that their main focus was not on finding the "Beltway Sniper," but rather on sending a message to gun owners.

"They know it's not about crime control because, if they were really interested in finding the perpetrator they would have kept moving. Obviously this guy wasn't the guy," Pratt concluded. "What it's really all about is showing that the feds are in control in a very totalitarian sense of the word."

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1 posted on 11/05/2002 3:31:42 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
This guy has a lot of guts not to play it the way the Feds want him to. He could now be on a permanent **** list.
2 posted on 11/05/2002 3:38:35 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
A freind of mine had a very simular experience. He is a private guy and kept his phone number unavailable. The FBI said that they wanted help with an investigation. He brought a tape recorder to the meeting. They asked him to turn it off. He complied.

I will leave out some details in order to protect his privacy, but he was very unhappy, and said he willl never cooperate with the FBI again. I believe it is always in your interest to tape conversations with the police. The fact that the FBI was nervous about being on camera shows that they were up to no good.

3 posted on 11/05/2002 3:47:56 AM PST by marktwain
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
4 posted on 11/05/2002 3:52:04 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: kattracks
RE: "Why didn't you give us a chance to do what we said we were going to do instead of ambushing us with the media? Why didn't you trust us?" one agent asked.
 
Gee, I dont know (cough - Waco, cough - Ruby Ridge cough - blasting an eagle scout in the face.)...nothing comes to mind.
5 posted on 11/05/2002 3:52:48 AM PST by tomakaze
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To: kattracks
Yep, looks th'll have to turn the other 2 lose and convict this guy and R. Jewel. PUKE!!!
6 posted on 11/05/2002 3:54:28 AM PST by Waco
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Squantos; harpseal
A few pings.

>>"Why didn't you give us a chance to do what we said we were going to do instead of ambushing us with the media? Why didn't you trust us?" one agent asked.

Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC, TWA800, any number of ATF raids on gunshops/owners, yadda, yadda......

I really don't see how the FBI/ATF/TLA's intend to win the war on Islamakazis if they don't have/earn the trust of people like this guy.

Nothing to see here, move along.
7 posted on 11/05/2002 3:55:08 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: tomakaze
Looks like you and I saw the same item as the key one.
8 posted on 11/05/2002 3:56:09 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: marktwain
"...The fact that the FBI was nervous about being on camera shows that they were up to no good..."

Precisely.

Thier argument is often, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about."

They convict themselves with their own words.

Screw their illegal, unconstitutional 'database'. Learn enough about the market to be able to confidently buy from private parties in areas as distant from your home as is practical using cash or barter.

9 posted on 11/05/2002 3:58:48 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: dennisw
"This guy has a lot of guts not to play it the way the Feds want him to. He could now be on a permanent **** list."

I hope his income taxes for the last several years were up to snuff.

10 posted on 11/05/2002 4:01:45 AM PST by RushLake
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To: kattracks
From experience....Never ever trust any FBI person. There are a few honest and or decent ones, by not trusting any of them, you are protecting yourself, that comes first.
11 posted on 11/05/2002 4:14:27 AM PST by cynicom
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To: kattracks
We're from the government; we're here to help.
12 posted on 11/05/2002 4:14:41 AM PST by the crow
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To: kattracks
"IWhy didn't you trust us?" one agent asked."

It's evident that our illustrious F.B.I. are so busy that they havent even had time to read the news papers, lo these many years.

Trust the F.B.I.?

Shirley......They jest!

13 posted on 11/05/2002 4:16:24 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: kattracks
I wonder if this video has made it's way onto the net yet?
14 posted on 11/05/2002 4:17:41 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: kattracks
Smart man...
15 posted on 11/05/2002 4:18:41 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: kattracks
Is this guy white? Wonder how many law-abiding African-American gun owners the Feebs rousted?
16 posted on 11/05/2002 4:25:44 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: the crow
The cops, FBI, will look up the obvious perps.

Then they look up innocent citizens.

Anything else is too complicated. They need to CYA and retire with full benefits.

They are just hacks who want no trouble from the bad guys.

17 posted on 11/05/2002 4:28:44 AM PST by johnny7
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To: FreedomPoster
FBI informant for decades. Brother to Billy Bulger, the most politically powerful man in Massachusetts. http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/bulger.htm

And don't forget the chubby guard in Alanta they tried to jail. The kid shot in the face with a M-16....Covering up for the Clintoons....
18 posted on 11/05/2002 4:32:24 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Thud
A playing the FBI by media and trial lawyer self-protection book Ping!
19 posted on 11/05/2002 4:35:26 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: dennisw
He could now be on a permanent **** list.

He probably is, but hopefully not on the ****ed list.

20 posted on 11/05/2002 4:42:39 AM PST by palmer
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