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Early birds, long lines: Crowds, complex ballot slow the process(Florida)
Miami Herald ^ | 11/4/02 | SOFIA SANTANA, EVAN S. BENN AND MARTIN MERZER

Posted on 11/04/2002 12:19:16 PM PST by finnman69

Early birds, long lines: Crowds, complex ballot slow the process

`I didn't think I'd have to wait an hour'

BY SOFIA SANTANA, EVAN S. BENN AND MARTIN MERZER mmerzer@herald.com

Election officials call it ''convenience voting,'' but it didn't seem all that convenient Friday. Thousands of voters hoping to avoid long lines on Election Day found themselves enmeshed in long lines four days before Election Day.

Many advance voting sites were jammed Friday as early birds confronted lengthy, complex ballots and relatively few machines at six locations in Broward County and 14 in Miami-Dade County.

Was it a harbinger of things to come in South Florida? Probably.

Broward Elections Supervisor Miriam Oliphant was so worried about overcrowded polling places on Election Day that she asked Gov. Jeb Bush to officially lengthen voting hours. Request denied.

''I didn't think I'd have to wait an hour,'' said Mark Sanchez, 34, of West Kendall, one of 40 people in a line that snaked through the children's section of the West Kendall Regional Library. ``But I'm sure it will be worse Nov. 5.''

An hour? He was lucky he wasn't at the Broward County satellite courthouse in Hollywood. There, an hour carried you only halfway to the touch-screen machines, if you decided to stay.

''You gotta be kidding me,'' Rick Dunn, 49, said as he gazed at a line twisting around courthouse corners. ``No way. I'm out.''

His words were repeated nearly verbatim in North Miami, where Rita Cecilio reversed course after learning she'd have to wait 45 minutes to vote at the library.

''It's frustrating,'' she said. 'I walked in and said, `No way.' Once I saw the line, I said 'I'm outta here.' ''

SOMETHING NEW

Election officials noted that early voting by machine is a new phenomenon in Florida, and that some sites accommodated voters without undue delay Friday.

All early voting locations in both counties are open today.

''You learn from every election you do,'' said Broward Commissioner Suzanne Gunzburger, ``although this election is like a 100-year storm.''

And one that moves pretty slowly.

Voters at the Pembroke Pines voting center endured 90-minute delays Friday -- and that was before the lunch-hour crowd arrived.

''I tried to beat everyone by getting here a little early,'' said Jim Cocca, 61, of Miramar. ``But I almost passed out back there.''

Shortly after noon, the line grew to 80 feet as voters stood outside in the heat, waiting to reach one of seven touch-screen machines inside the small but air conditioned office.

Heeding complaints from the crowd, election workers brought out 30 chairs. That seemed inadequate to Larry Seidman, 79, of Pembroke Pines.

''How about some lunch?'' he asked.

Still, most said they'd rather wait and vote early than face longer lines Election Day.

''I can tell you this -- an hour today is better than whatever's coming Tuesday,'' said Harriet Friedman, 76, of Hallandale Beach. ``That'll be murder.''

EASY VOTING

And it wasn't all bad.

At Miami Beach City Hall, voters who arrived at noon were pleasantly surprised. Only four of 12 voting booths were occupied. At West Miami City Hall, some voters were in and out in 20 minutes.

''Sometimes, you're sitting here and it's quiet, and then a whole lot of people come in,'' said Kirkland Beale, a poll worker in Miami Beach. ``Some older voters take longer to cast their votes and it slows things down.''

Carlos Rodriguez, 90, required 15 minutes to work through the Miami-Dade ballot, which is considerably shorter than the Broward ballot. ''Better today than Election Day,'' he said after voting in Miami Beach.

Experts worry that voters using unfamiliar new equipment are consuming too much time as they negotiate a ballot crammed with the hotly fought gubernatorial race, other statewide elections, judicial retentions, 10 state constitutional amendments and additional contests.

Voters at the Broward County Governmental Center took an average of about 10 minutes to cast ballots Friday afternoon, but some needed as long as 16 minutes.

In Miami-Dade, Aventura resident Cynthia Bloom spent 20 minutes in line and another 20 minutes getting through the ballot.

''The ballot isn't just long; it's not clear,'' she said. ``These amendments are so difficult to understand.''

Lori Parrish, chairwoman of Broward's County Commission, said voters who study the ballot before they reach polling places can perform their civic duty without inconveniencing others.

''Everybody's panicking, and they need to stop,'' Parrish said. ``You can vote in less than six minutes, max, if you're prepared.''

But on Friday, the ballot clearly contributed to the problems.

At a library in Cutler Ridge, more than 50 people waited in line, and they watched with growing anger as voters spent 10 minutes or more at the machines.

''You have to read the instructions on how to use the machines before you get to the polls,'' Estille Jovan, 61, of Perrine, said with sufficient volume to be heard throughout the auditorium.

She stormed off.

Election officials in both counties said they were aware of the lines Friday but could not do much to alleviate them.

Most voting machines already are committed to Election Day use. In addition, state law requires that early voting only be offered at election offices.

BUSLOADS OF VOTERS

Miami-Dade officials said some delays were caused when busloads of voters arrived at some sites. ''If people all of a sudden show up, it could be a problem,'' said Mayor Alex Penelas.

Last week, when early voting began, slightly more than 2,000 people a day voted early in Miami-Dade, officials said. By Friday, more than 4,000 a day were voting; a similar number voted early in Broward.

Despite the lines, state officials urged voters to cast ballots today, Sunday (in Miami-Dade) and Monday.

On Sunday, many church congregations are expected to travel to County Hall, the only early voting site open that day in Miami-Dade. Broward does not plan to open polling places Sunday.

''To whatever extent we can get people to vote early, we can avoid even longer lines on Tuesday,'' said Secretary of State Jim Smith.

REDUCING WAIT

About 75,000 Broward residents are expected to vote early or by absentee ballot -- 14 percent of the total expected turnout. In Miami-Dade, 65,000 people cast early or absentee votes by Friday night -- about 11 percent of the total expected turnout -- and several thousand more should arrive before Tuesday.

That should help reduce waiting times on Election Day, but even if all machines work perfectly, long lines are likely to form, especially during peak voting times -- from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. to 7 p.m.

Officials reminded South Floridians that anyone in line at 7 p.m. will be allowed to vote, even if polling places must remain open for many hours to accommodate them.

Herald staff writers Erika Bolstad, Richard Brand, Oscar Corral, Joni James, Jennifer Maloney and Andrea Robinson contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: earlyvoting; election; floriduh; jebbush; mcbride
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So who does this benefit, us or the Rats? Some people need 20 minutes to vote? Floriduh all over again.
1 posted on 11/04/2002 12:19:16 PM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
If the long lines, delays and confusion are confined to Miami and Dade as I expect, it may help Jeb. Of course, he will get the blame no matter what. But who cares?
2 posted on 11/04/2002 12:23:08 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: finnman69
fun time again... why oh why is that elephant oliphant still in office?
3 posted on 11/04/2002 12:23:17 PM PST by camle
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To: finnman69
The big thing here is the LARGE NUMBERS of people doing the voting in Broward and Dade -- this is HUGE DEM territory.

If they are getting this large of a turnout it is imperative that ALL REPUBLICANS get to the Polls tomorrow!!

4 posted on 11/04/2002 12:25:08 PM PST by commish
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To: commish
Then bump for florida
5 posted on 11/04/2002 12:26:46 PM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
Can I ask a stupid question? Who's making sure these folks don't double dip by voting again tomorrow? Or is making sure that these folks are who they say they are and that they are eligible to vote?
6 posted on 11/04/2002 12:29:09 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: finnman69
I've been voting for over 30 years now and I can't think of a single time that I thought a ballot was "complex". They are written for morons.

You have to be awful stupid (note to journalists) to not be able to push the probe into the hole that says "yes" or "no". Or to take a pencil and put the "X" in the proper box.

Naturally this process is difficult for the armies of Alzheimer's victims and mental patients that the demoncraps mobilize on election day. And for the "voting dead" it's well-nigh impossible. Though the demonRATS seem to manage anyhow.

7 posted on 11/04/2002 12:34:00 PM PST by Seruzawa
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To: finnman69
Expect "We didn't have time to vote - we were disenfranchised and its Jeb's fault" to be the montra on Wednesday.

There are an unusually large number of Amendments on the ballot this time, and #1 is very lengthy and complicated to the uninformed. We have a total of 12 here in Leon County(Two local ordinances). However, every registered voter was sent sample ballots and should know what/who they are voting before they go to the polls. Anyone who doesn't was simply bussed in or told/convinced to show up.

8 posted on 11/04/2002 12:35:36 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: finnman69
I voted last Thursday on the same machine the Florida voters are using. The process is walk in, present your Voter's Registration card, read the amendments on the table that will be on the ballot, wait for the computer to find your name and then sign it. The clerk then hands you a black plastic box which contains your ballot.

Insert the box into the computer. Wait for it to boot up and then read the straight ballot choices. I marked straight Republican, the computer asked if that was correct and I indicated "yes". I then pushed the big red button, removed the box and turned it over to the poll worker on the way out.
9 posted on 11/04/2002 12:35:45 PM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: finnman69
Officials reminded South Floridians that anyone in line at 7 p.m. will be allowed to vote, even if polling places must remain open for many hours to accommodate them.

This is why it is irresponsible for the lamestream media to project the winner of an election, even after the polls have closed.

As long as people are still waiting to vote, it is not ethical to project a winner and effectively tell those people they might as well go home.

10 posted on 11/04/2002 12:35:50 PM PST by justlurking
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To: JulieRNR21; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; NautiNurse; PhiKapMom; ...
Broward and Miami-Dade. As expected, the two counties out of the 67 in Florida where this chaos occurs every election. Run by democrat election officials who are too stupid to manage an election, and too large a populace of liberal morons who can't push a button.

Maybe the lines wouldn't be so long if Broward had those EIGHTEEN touchscreen voting machines that have been "missing" for the last two weeks.


11 posted on 11/04/2002 12:36:10 PM PST by Joe Brower
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To: finnman69
It took me almost 3hrs to vote in south Dade this morning. They had about 10 machines, 5 of which could be used by the vast majority of folks from the local area. The actual voting took about 2 minutes and the touch-screen voting machine was very easy to use.
12 posted on 11/04/2002 12:36:15 PM PST by jsraggmann
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To: Seruzawa
And with these computerized machines, how do we know no-one's screwed with the hardware and/or software? At one point I heard that one vendor was even supplying the software for most if not all of the machines. Personally, I'd be more comfortable with the low tech methods since I would think it would easier to spot fraud.
13 posted on 11/04/2002 12:36:19 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: finnman69
found themselves enmeshed in long lines four days before Election Day.

LOL! Floriduh screwed up with these high tech machines.

Most of these idiots can't set the clock on their VCR!

14 posted on 11/04/2002 12:38:56 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: mewzilla
And with these computerized machines, how do we know no-one's screwed with the hardware and/or software?

You don't and can't and that is why I have always been totally against them.

15 posted on 11/04/2002 12:39:20 PM PST by FreeTally
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To: finnman69
For my official ID, I presented my Concealed Weapon License. I don't think the poll worker had ever seen one before!
16 posted on 11/04/2002 12:39:45 PM PST by jsraggmann
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To: finnman69
... ''You have to read the instructions on how to use the machines before you get to the polls,'' Estille Jovan, 61, of Perrine, said with sufficient volume to be heard throughout the auditorium.

She stormed off ...
Imagine. Being forced by the man to read directions. When did we start spelling America with a 'k'? (sarcasm on)

It appears they're already laying the groundwork for their court challenges, brothers and sisters. This could be a very long and bloody month.
17 posted on 11/04/2002 12:40:01 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: finnman69
Sorry, I don't believe this. If bus loads were delivered to a polling place with fewer than ten machines it is an attempt to delay linger and wait. I also think early voting just gives the democrats more time to screw around with the votes.

Any voter who shows up to vote having not read this ballot should be turned away. Even after you have studdied this ballot it is clear as mud. A non vote of all that these uninformed dumb dems don't understand would be nice, but then the dems would go in and vote for them, they have time.
All that's really necessary is to vote for the candidates if you are confused. THis ballot is a joke, pregnant pigs in boxes and all.

I will show up to vote at 9am tomorrow and let's see what I find. I suspect normalcy although we have all been bombarded with the loooooooonnng wait we will have to hopefully keep us home and make way for the busloads on their way.

I wonder if this election in Florida is messed up and fraud prevelent how long with the voter's put up with this bul$#&it before staging a revolt?

18 posted on 11/04/2002 12:40:52 PM PST by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: JulieRNR21; Amore; agincourt1415; Ravenstar; Sungirl; Rome2000; Ragtime Cowgirl; inflorida; ...
Get Out The Vote Ping!
19 posted on 11/04/2002 12:41:23 PM PST by finnman69
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To: FreeTally
If this election is ever settled, it will surprise me.

Carolyn

20 posted on 11/04/2002 12:44:56 PM PST by CDHart
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