Election fraud tied to gun control?

11/4/02 | WalterGR

[WalterGR]

It has occured to me that, with all the election fraud in the news these days, there is a strong link between election fraud and gun control.

Actually, let's use the correct term. Victim disarmament. For that's what they want, to disarm potential victims. Whether they will be a victim of crime or government, it doesn't matter.

I've often said that the Constitution guarantees us three "boxes" to protect our liberty. First, the ballot box. Second, the jury box. Third, the cartridge box.

Elections fraud usurpes the first. Judges have usurped the second, to the point of beginning to "awaken" the general public to the danger facing us. That leaves the third - the cartridge box. Which is why soc/libs (socialist/liberals) want to ban firearms. If the peasants have no firearms - they cannot effectively revolt.

If things are not changed, and soon, elections will be just a means of "rubber stamping" our leaders. And judges will control the laws - regardless of what a law actually says, or a jury thinks.

If they succeed in taking our firearms, America will be no more than a Tyrannical Democracy. Just like Iraq.

[aeronca]

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[evolved_rage]

Good Post. Welcome aboard. (or back...)

[VRW Conspirator]

Nice summary.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Actually there is a fourth box, the soap box. The internet and talk radio have done much to enlighten the people as to the evils of the left.

[dirtboy]

Welcome to FR. Generally, you should try to find an existing thread to attach short commentary to, instead of starting a new thread - that is called a vanity post and the owner of the site tries to keep them down to avoid cluttering up the site.

[nygoose]

Great post. Very original and conducive to dialogue. Thanks

[Fixit]

I believe that there is also a strong geographic correlation between the two.

Witness Chicago, both a major dis-armed victim zone and vote fraud central.

Maryland, a state on the "leading edge" of gun control has a strong history of electioneering fraud and questionable practices, including an election-eve raid by the Maryland State Police on the headquarters of the Maryland Committee Against the Gun Ban.

If left to their own devices, people whom the state doesn't trust to carry a weapon certainly can't be trusted to choose the correct candidate.

[glc1173@aol.com]

You miss the point. Any attempt to impose the Blue Nation social agenda by force on Red Nation will cause the final break.

Red Nation is a vast contiguous region - that Blue Nation is utterly dependent on for food, toilet paper, wood, paper, and (largely) fuel. (Can you imagine Boston without natural gas in January?)

The typical guy in Red Nation - of his 50 nearest homes - has 45+ who think like Red Nation, 45+ of which have rifles, 30+ of which have semiautomatic rifles, and 40+ of which have residents of age and condition fit to fight.

Most importantly, within his 50 nearest homes, at least five still fit to fight for at least a month know they are terminally ill or are old but still fit to fight and not wanting to end up in a nursing home - and thus have nothing to lose.

Washington couldn't even disarm tiny Mogadishu, Somalia - upon which Blue Nation was dependent for nothing and where the only opposition was poor black kids. And that was when Washington didn't have its downsized military spread thin from Afghanistan to YugoNam.

Another strategic reality: With most of the military's elite units recruited down here anyhow, who would do Blue Nation's fighting to keep us subjugated? Monica?

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[dd5339]

Cartrige box ping!

[jdege]

The Democratic Machine want's to avoid any possibility of a new Battle of Athens.

[Liberty Tree Surgeon]

The really amusing thing is that the blue nation would be defeated by their own constituents. Just imagine what would happen when a blockade went up, and the word of it spread. All those converted lofts would burn up real good as the riots and looting started.

Of course, the way to avoid all this is to fight at the ballot box, where wins make this all just idle chatter.

LTS

[stevio]

The first thing on my list of a potential candidate is that they support the 2nd Amendment.

[Illbay]

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[markfiveFF]

(1)We need to GOTV so that judged can be appointed.
(2)We need Senators who will sit on nominees that do not support RKBA.

I figure that we will get (1) but for (2) we need to win some primaries. 41 true-blue Senators can filibuster any UnConstitutional bill such as the Muzzle Free Speech Act (aka CFR). 51 conservative Senators can organize the Senate, pass legislation (when not filibuested) and stop any and all bad spending bills. 218 Reps and 67 Senators can impeach and convict.

We could do this by about 2 million people registering and voting in 26 small states (there are enough Senators who will follow a strong leadership to get from 52 to 67, although I prefer a sure thing).

In 2010, it would be helpful to take a Biblical lead and reside on 1 April 2010 in the most conservative regions of the most conservative states. If Utah and Idaho had more electoral votes and Reps than California and New York, and people decided to reside in rural, 70% R districts come census day 2010, it would make life a little bit easier.

Making the midwest, south, plains and mountain (blue) country a no welfare, low tax zone would help to accomplish this. Imagine all the tax receivers crowding into 6-10 states. Anyone who wanted to work and succeed living in the urban (red) zone would leave to avoid confiscatory taxes.

Just a few thoughts. Take over a few states, county by county. Make the laws freedom friendly. Defund the left.

[Let's Roll]

The Second Amendment - the one that guarantees all of the other Amendments.

[quietolong]

bump for later

[zingzang]

Well said. The sooner the general populace gets its collective head out of the sand, the better. Otherwise, we'll find ourselves like our low rent neighbors to the north, living in a socialist paradise with the jack booted thugs taking care of business for us.

[Aric2000]

Nice one, index, peruse later bump.

[Vic3O3]

True, but only for as long as we still have our guns. Once they're stolen by the Libs/Gov't, who will protect the right to free speech?