Inside the Womb

TIME ^

[ppaul]

And this is all the result of random chance evolution. Right.

[Dallas]

Who would have ever guessed, that we were once just pond scum (/sarcasm)

[Jeff Chandler]

Even more exciting, if considerably more controversial, is the understanding that embryonic cells harbor untapped therapeutic potential. These cells, of course, are stem cells, and they are the progenitors of more specialized cells that make up organs and tissues. By harnessing their generative powers, medical researchers believe, it may one day be possible to repair the damage wrought by injury and disease.! (That prospect suffered a political setback last week when a federal advisory committee recommended that embryos be considered the same as human subjects in clinical trials.)

Notice he eclamation point. Notice also that there is no mention of the possible effect the new technology might have on the abortion debate.

[Jeff Chandler]

he = the

[Jeff Chandler]

eclamation = exclamation...Sunday morning, don'tcha know!

[garbanzo]

No it wasn't just the result of chance. It was however the result of natural selection.

[ppaul]

CORRECTION:

No it wasn't just the result of chance. It was however the result of supernatural selection.

[MHGinTN]

For although it takes nine months to make a baby ... Regardless of your personal belief, re The Creator, it is a fact that the individual new human life builds itself, the woman who's giving life support to that new individual life does not make a baby only supports that baby while the 'program' builds the baby. The issue most central is also the one most avoided in the abortion debates, the issue of life support. Our society embraces life suppot at every level of human individual life, except in the womb at the earliest stages. That must soon be addressed cogently or this nation will mutate into something very different from what our founders clearly intended. Did we learn nothing with the contentious, wrongheaded handling of the slavey issue for so many years?

[victim soul]

" No it wasn't just the result of chance. It was however the result of supernatural selection."

Thank you, God, for giving us Life and help us to bring all back to you through the Spirit of "Faith and Reason".

[garbanzo]

I won't suppose you'll present any evidence that anything other than natural processes are at work here.

[ppaul]

That must soon be addressed cogently or this nation will mutate into something very different from what our founders clearly intended.

Unfortunately, that has already happened.

[garbanzo]

"E-word" debates aside, you are right - we aren't simply looking at an "unviable tissue mass" here.

[ppaul]

I won't suppose you'll present any evidence that anything other than natural processes are at work here.

It is self-evident - to use the language of our founding fathers.

[garbanzo]

Lots of "self-evident" things have later been disproven by careful examination of evidence. Not that I'm deeply interested in continuing this since I know where it's going (lots of bluffing but no real evidence on your part).

[MHGinTN]

In the 'spirit' of what the founders would endorse, the issue of the right to life already in operation --as with the life of an indivbidual human in the womb-- is not a religious issue frst, it isan issue of life, period. You and I believe the Creator gives life. That others do not envoke the Creator is not the issue, the already alive individual is the central issue. Life support for alive individual humans need not envoke the Creator t endorse the continuance o life support. We have a great deal in common with garbanzo since he/she believes thatnascent life deserves the same right to life as other humans. Let's build on that commonality, okay?

[ppaul]

Sure.
What is life?

[MHGinTN]

I know it when I see it. I'm not a solomon able to give the definitive explanation.

[ppaul]

Solomon would have used the Scriptures.
A wise man will do likewise.