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1 posted on 11/02/2002 1:47:26 PM PST by RCW2001
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Pollard is in jail because he is a traitor to the United States of America. Let him rot in prison as an example to others. Its called deterrence. If his head could be mounted on a pole for all to see under the U.S. judicial system, I would have endorsed it.
2 posted on 11/02/2002 1:53:59 PM PST by Ranger
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... So, if Jews will not do what is necessary to liberate Jonathan Pollard, perhaps the "goyim" may be prompted to do so ...
This particular gentile wants Pollard to remain in prison forever and ever and ever. Not for our benefit, but for his benefit, that he may have many years to consider the enormity of his treacheries against his country and to meditate upon the souls of those who died because of his misplaced loyalities.
3 posted on 11/02/2002 1:54:31 PM PST by Asclepius
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Sorry, he spied on the U.S. Israel is our ally (and I am very pro-Israel) but nobody - NOBODY - gets to spy on us. He did a lot of damage and he's lucky he didn't get death, frankly.
4 posted on 11/02/2002 1:57:45 PM PST by livius
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Israel has used spies against the United States in the past and are currently doing so. Israel has in the past attacked american ships knowingly. In the future Israel will do what is in Israels best interests.
Mr. Pollard knew the consequences of his deeds before he committed treason against "his" country.
Mr. Pollard should have been shot. Baring that he should spend the rest of his natural life in an American prison.
5 posted on 11/02/2002 1:59:25 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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Bill Clinton. This flamboyant president let Jonathan languish in jail yet pardoned an escaped felon, Mark Rich, who had contributed to a Clinton campaign fund.

So Clinton shouldn't have pardoned Marc Rich. Two wrongs don't make a right. Pollard should not be released.

6 posted on 11/02/2002 2:04:13 PM PST by mountaineer
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No sympathy for Pollard here. Let him rot.
7 posted on 11/02/2002 2:04:26 PM PST by Diverdogz
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A taitor is a traitor is a traitor.
8 posted on 11/02/2002 2:05:53 PM PST by Commander8
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I think sometimes you have to temper justice with mercy. He's been punished greatly, far greater than most other spies. It would be merciful to release him befor he dies in prison. I say release him with the proviso that he can never step foot on US soil again.
9 posted on 11/02/2002 2:09:49 PM PST by monkeyshine
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Pollard got off light, I would've hanged the treasonous bastard.
10 posted on 11/02/2002 2:12:51 PM PST by Niagara
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Pollard is a traitor. The only reasons the Israelis want him back are (1) he has additional secret US material that is of value to the Israelis or can be sold by them to others and, (2) as a signal to other Israeli spies in the US that, if they get caught, they won't serve a long sentaence.

Israel is not our ally or our friend. They look only to themselves for their survival. We give them 25 to 50 billion a year in cash (that is the core of the current governmental crisis, "we want a biiger piece of the US pie and if we don't get it, we walk") and they tolerate us.

Never, never believe that Israel would jeopardize it's continued existance for an instant to do something for the US. There is nothing wrong with self-interest. But, don't imagine anything but from the Israelis. Pollard must die in a Yankee prison!! And no "let him serve his time in his own land" BS. If the Israelis had him, they would find some justifcation to release him within weeks. Just, as they justified refusing to send the muderer back to the US, the kid who cut his buddy's head off.

14 posted on 11/02/2002 2:22:43 PM PST by Tacis
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If Pollard only gave the stolen information to a friendly state, then what member of the Israeli leadership can we stick in jail to replace him since Israel traded the stolen information to the soviets. So much for friends. The Israelis are only for the Israelis.

Pollard is a shit eating traitor of the worst kind. This asshole was unpatriotic. If his dutiful wife needs a little, send her my way, Im not too picky.

15 posted on 11/02/2002 2:23:04 PM PST by Dave S
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Paul Eidelberg rants:   "So, if Jews will not do what is necessary to liberate Jonathan Pollard, perhaps the 'goyim' may be prompted to do so."

They have become so desperate to free this traitorous dog that they now feel no compunction against using racist epithets like "goyim" to describe Christian Americans. I would caution Eidelberg, et al, to be very careful what they demand. If they continue to insist that Pollard be released they might just get what they ask for. Only release might come just one body part at a time.

--Boot Hill

17 posted on 11/02/2002 2:25:43 PM PST by Boot Hill
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Does Paul Eidelberg, author of this piece of trash, wish to serve the rest of this worthless traitors life sentence? If not, shut the f... up.
19 posted on 11/02/2002 2:28:14 PM PST by Dave S
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Biographical Note: Paul Eidelberg (Ph.D. University of Chicago) is the author of ten books on American politics

Just goes to show how little academic credentials have to say about the power of logical analysis. The author's analysis comprises a weird mixture of ex cathedra denial of both Pollard's treachery and his nationality, and absolute hyperbole with respect to some mystical or allegorical symbolism for which he seems to be arguing.

And yet, because the Jewish State of Israel exists, it remains for Jews to bring Jonathan home, and they dare not shirk this responsibility. Timid and myopic Jews do not see that Jonathan's lonely imprisonment and the world's indifference to his fate is symbolic of Israel, the maligned, abandoned, and ever "suffering servant of the Lord." Little to these Jews realize that their timidity arouses the contempt of Gentiles, not only for them but for Israel as well. They do not see that Jonathan Pollard's bondage is linked to Israel's bondage. Indeed, until Israel brings Jonathan home, Israel will remain the scapegoat of nations, and Jews in this country, like Jonathan, will remain expendable.

If that paragraph illustrates the analytical abilities of a Chicago Ph.D., please do not anybody offer me one. The paragraph reads like something out of the mouth of someone who has been doing some seriously dangerous drugs. The symbolism is from a very, very "bad trip."

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

22 posted on 11/02/2002 2:42:13 PM PST by Ohioan
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Little to these Jews realize that their timidity [to demand Pollard's release] arouses the contempt of Gentiles, not only for [Jews] but for Israel as well.

Oh, now that is rich...

Lemme get this right; Jews who resist some natural obligation to demand Pollard's embolden me and make me "MORE" hostile to Jews...?

Don't mistake the operative assumption here; non-Jewish people harbor a natural, irrational hatred of Jews. This hostility goes into a latent phase from time to time, but it's just bigger than them.

23 posted on 11/02/2002 2:46:59 PM PST by gaijin
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I'd have but slightly more sympathy for Pollard if he'd been idealistic in his support of Israel and betrayal of US. Instead, he and his wife took tens of thousands of dollars in bribes to betray the very oath he took and turned his back on the country that had fed him, kept him safe, educated him, gave him access in a position of trust, and to which he swore allegiance; in turn, the Pollards spent the bribe money on jewelry and expensive overseas trips, exposing our sources overseas to prison and possible execution when discovered. He's very lucky to have a life sentence; his crimes merit hanging.
25 posted on 11/02/2002 2:52:36 PM PST by laconic
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. Perhaps to prove his detachment from his partly Jewish ancestry, Weinberger publicly exaggerated the gravity of Jonathan's crime and secretly and unlawfully prejudiced his trial.

Excuse me? Pollard is in jail for being Jewish? DAMN! Shows you how much I know! I could have sworn he was in prison for treason!

Or is the point being made that BECAUSE he is Jewish it wasn't treason? Does this mean it WOULD have been treason if Pollard were Catholic? Buddist? Heathen?

I think the best solution to this whole problem is to just take him outside and shoot him. While we're at it,let's take John Walker and all the other traitors out at the same time and make a show out of it? I'll provide the bullets.

26 posted on 11/02/2002 2:59:33 PM PST by sneakypete
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Well, there is an old viking punishment that might serve. Let's say we release him from prison and send him to Israel. However, first we: (a) surgically remove his arms and legs, (b) remove his eyes, (c) remove his penus and testicles, and (d) remove his tongue.

All with the best of medical care, of course. That way he takes his prison with him whereever he goes. And we don't have to pay for food and shelter (e.g., his current prison overhead.)

Yes....sometimes the reason I go by "dark" comes to light.

30 posted on 11/02/2002 3:18:31 PM PST by dark_lord
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For the Umpteenth time. NO!

I like Israel OK.

And I really like Pollard right where he is, under lock and key. I hope the traitor dies in prison.

31 posted on 11/02/2002 3:22:46 PM PST by LibKill
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I'm an American Jew. I say he should die in an American Prison. He never asked for forgiveness, just that he was screwed on some "Deal" with those who caught him. Truly an ugly person. Anyone who wants him freed lowers themselves in my eyes.
33 posted on 11/02/2002 3:27:05 PM PST by DmBarch
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