Posted on 11/02/2002 8:56:09 AM PST by browardchad
Muhammad converted to Islam while he was in the Army, and was doctrinaire in some regards, Green said. He encouraged his wife to wear a veil and became upset when she got a short haircut, even though it made her look younger. He expressed a strong racial nationalism - he affectionately addressed Green as "black man" - disliked whites and spoke against those who didn't belong to the Nation of Islam, as he and his wife did, Green said.
Once, Green accompanied the couple to a mosque with another black man whose white wife was barred from entering. "I told [Muhammad] in the car that was b--- and he told me not to curse," Green recalled.
Liz Michael's theory of why Muhammad wanted to get caught makes sense.
But why did Muhammad not make his agenda clear while the shootings were going on? Even now, after being caught, one can speculate on his message, but it's still just speculation. Why didn't he spell it out if this was his purpose?
I do agree that the snipers let themselves be caught, but I don't think this provides an adequate explanation.
By the way, as the tag-line says, Liz Michael is running a campaign for the U.S. Senate in Arizona, but let's just say that she's the opposite of a mainstream candidate.
I agree with your assessment of the danger of al Fuqra, but lack of clear identification with a known terrorist group has become the escape hatch for the FBI, the media, and everyone else that wants to hide their head in the sand of political correctness, and ignore NOI and the various violent splinter groups spawned by it.
Muhammad does not need to be a card-carrying member of any group to get his message out: it's there, loud and clear.
And remember, al Fuqra, unbelievably, hasn't even been classified as a terrorist group by the DOJ as yet -- so if they do find a connection, they can still issue the standard mantra of "no known connection to a terrorist group."
Examples:
The article talks about "police profilers." I didn't hear a single "profile" from any official agency. Everything was either "consultants," who explicitly said they had no clue as to what police were actually thinking or looking at, or "sources," who told us, anonymously, what police were thinking. Neither is any evidence as to POLICE incompetence.
As to the "Illegal aliens." They were not stopped just becasue they were Hispanic. The police were staking out a phone booth (they may have been incompetent not to get there a couple of minutes earlier -- I dunno) -- and the aliens were the people who showed up to use the phone.
As to the lying witness at the Home Depot -- the cops did figure that out pretty quick -- based on the in-store cameras that showed the witness inside when he said he was outside. As to the White Van/Truck -- that's what a number of witnesses said they "saw in the vicinity" (maybe they did -- the shooters just weren't in it!), and you can imagine the conspiracy minded if the police had "hushed up" their stories.
On balance -- I think the cops did OK -- not great, because the shooters would not have been caught so soon if they had not scattereed some clues, but when they had the clues, LE got an ID and connecting evidence pretty quick. B- to B+ grade.
I think he did make it clear. He left notes all over the place - the contents of which have not been revealed. The tarot cards, for example, supposedly contained more than the fragmentary messages revealed to the press, but even those fragments contained enough information so that any police agency would have realized they were dealing with Black Muslim Five Percenters. They used certain stock phrases used by this group, for example.
Actually, I think the money demand - which seems to have come later - only arose because it seemed to be the only way that Muhammed could get them to take him seriously and assemble "enough" clues to be unable to deny the evidence. Remember, Moose and the others seem to have wanted this person, from the very start, to be neither black nor Muslim, and I think this was crucial in slowing down the apprehension of the pair. If their whole purpose was publicity, it must have been pretty frustrating! If it weren't such a deadly serious thing that had destroyed so many lives, it would almost be comical.
And of course, if it weren't such a serious thing with regards to the future. I still wonder about the "duck in the noose" remark -
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Manson didn't butcher anybody. A bunch of runamok kids under the leadership of Tex Watson went off and did it by themselves. They came back and one of the girls came to Manson ans said, "Guess what we did?" Manson's reply was, "You got me thrown in the jailhouse is what you did."
Normal people tend to look for logical actions by those who commit atrocious acts under the influence of religious zeal or intense hatred, since murder of strangers is in complete contradiction to our well-ordered world, and threatens, by its random nature -- to undermine the very fabric of society.
How many times did you hear so-called "experts," many of them former FBI agents, proclaim that the sniper was not a terrorist, since a terrorist would claim responsibility? This assumption is completely bogus, as evidenced by the FBI's own case files, as far back as 1990.
When Egyptian El-Sayyid Nosair assassinated Meir Kahane in November of 1990, the FBI insisted on the “lone nut” theory; and Nosair never offered a rationale for the shooting during his criminal trial in New York; in fact, he was not even convicted of murder, only of lesser charges. But in a notebook belonging to Nosair (who was also linked to the bombing of a gay bar in Greenwich Village and the attempted assassination of Mikhail Gorbachev the same year) he called for the “breaking and destruction of the enemies of Allah. And this is by means of destroying exploding, the structure of their civilized pillars such as the touristic infrastructure which they are proud of and their high world buildings which they are proud of and their statues which they endear and the buildings which gather their head[s,] their leaders, and without any announcement for our responsibility of Muslims for what had been done.”
Michaels is obviously a libertarian, as you imply, but while I don’t agree with some of her beliefs, I think she may be right on target with this theory.
No, he didn't: but he was the(stomach-turning) inspiration of the loonies who did:
From The Crime Library
Another facet of Charlie, although not nearly as important to him as his music, was his philosophy. To a large extent, this "philosophy" was a con, something he dreamed up to impress his followers, but he probably believed some of it.
The core of this philosophy was a kind of Armageddon. Charlie preached that the black man was going to rise up and start killing the whites and turn the cities in to an inferno of racial revenge. The black man would win this war, but wouldn’t be able to hang onto the power he seized because of innate inferiority.
In 1968, Charlie was forecasting racial war when all of a sudden the Beatles released their White Album, which had the song "Helter Skelter." The lyrics fit Charlie’s theory to a tee: "Look out helter skelter helter skelter helter skelter/She’s coming down fast/ Yes she is/Yes she is." Now, the racial Armageddon had a name. It was Helter Skelter.
Helter Skelter would begin, according to one of Charlie’s devotees, "with the black man going into white people’s homes and ripping off the white people, physically destroying them,. A couple of spades from Watts would come up into the Bel Air and Beverly Hills district…and just really wipe some people out, just cutting bodies up and smearing blood and writing things on the wall in blood…all kinds of super-atrocious crimes that would really make the white man mad…until there was open revolution in the streets, until they finally won and took over. Then the black man would assume the white man’s karma. He would then be the establishment…"
Charlie and the Family would survive this racial holocaust because they would be hiding in the desert safe from the turmoil of the cities. He pulled from the Book of Revelations, the concept of a "bottomless pit," the entrance of which, according to Charlie, was a cave underneath Death Valley that led down to a city of gold. This paradise was where Charlie and his Family were going to wait out this war. Afterwards, when the black man failed at keeping power, Charlie’s Family, which they estimated would have multiplied to 144,000 by that time, would then take over from the black man and rule the cities.
"It will be our world then," Charlie told his followers. "There would be no one else, except for us and the black servants. He, Charles Willis Manson, the fifth angel, Jesus Christ, would then rule the world. The other four angels were the Beatles.
How did this hokey philosophy result in the blood bath at the Tate and LaBianca houses? Well, Charlie the Prophet had already forecast that the murders would start in the summer of 1969, but as the summer went on, it looked as though the "prophet" was wrong. "The only thing blackie knows is what whitey has told him," he said to one of his followers just before the murders. "I’m going to have to show him how to do it."
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