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Minnesota Supreme Court Hearing Live Thread
Minnesota Supreme Court, Minnesota Public Radio ^ | 10/31/02 | TonyInOhio

Posted on 10/31/2002 7:22:07 AM PST by TonyInOhio

The Minnesota Supreme Court will hear arguments at 11:00 EST (10:00 CST) on the status of absentee ballots in next week's election.

Minnesota Public Radio will carry the hearing live. You can hear it live here (click on "Live MPR audio stream" on the lower right). The Court's information officer said KSTP Television may be providing live coverage as well.

Please post what you see and hear, here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: absenteeballots; coleman; election; electionfraud; mondale; stinkinrats; supremecourt; wellstone
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To: Congressman Billybob; Torie
We could use some expert advice over here, if you have the time. Thanks!
41 posted on 10/31/2002 8:23:05 AM PST by TonyInOhio
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I believe Robert Novak's column today deals with the Page issue.
42 posted on 10/31/2002 8:23:54 AM PST by Galtoid
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The story is in today's column by Bob Novak and is up on Drudge. Alan Page was not selected because of his race.
43 posted on 10/31/2002 8:24:16 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend; All
The law speaks to this issue. The absentee ballots for Wellstone are NOT to be counted.

Can someone find and post the pertinent MN statute? Thanks.

44 posted on 10/31/2002 8:24:16 AM PST by ELS
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To: TonyInOhio
The dems are arguing that the law that says "Ballots shall not be mailed..." after a certain date, does not preclude another method of sending the ballots. "Fairness dictates" that people could be contacted by phone, fax, etc.
45 posted on 10/31/2002 8:25:02 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: TonyInOhio
"If the statute states that it [the ballot} shall not be mailed, then it does not prevent the distribution of ballots by other means."

Good grief! Voting by internet?

I don't think the Judges are buying this argument.

46 posted on 10/31/2002 8:25:54 AM PST by Hunble
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To: TonyInOhio; Congressman Billybob
A Justice raises the equal-protection issue; that's at least a bit encouraging. DFL laywer urging Court to use websites, mail, any means possible to enable everyone to vote.

PING!

47 posted on 10/31/2002 8:25:57 AM PST by ELS
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To: concerned about politics
Coleman needs to get him out into a debate.

How insensitive of you! To even suggest such a political demonstration while the whole world is still mourning Senator Wellstone, especially his son who lost his mother and sister too. And after that beautiful memorial service. Shame on you. LOLOLOL

48 posted on 10/31/2002 8:26:02 AM PST by Attillathehon
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Okay, he canot speak well. Can he spell?

Glass houses and all...

49 posted on 10/31/2002 8:26:04 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Here:
There was one other possibility: Alan Page, the 57-year-old former Notre Dame and Minnesota Vikings football star who has been an associate justice of the Minnesota Supreme Court since 1993. A law-and-order liberal, Page has led the state Democratic ticket in recent elections. According to Minnesota sources, he was eager to seek the Senate seat. But the DFL apparently did not want to risk running the African-American Page in an overwhelmingly Caucasian state, and Page was swiftly discouraged.
Here:
It could be ex-Vice President Mondale, age 74 (call it the "New Jersey option," akin to the return of Sen. Frank Lautenberg, age 78, after Sen. Robert Torricelli dropped out of the Senate race there); Alan Page, the former Minnesota Vikings football star, now an associate justice on the state Supreme Court; Mondale's son Ted, a Minnesota lawyer; Hubert "Skip" Humphrey, the son of the late vice president; one of Wellstone's two surviving sons, David and Mark; one of the Minnesota congressmen; or maybe the state attorney general.
Here:
Mr Mondale was the obvious successor: the favourite of Democrats in Minnesota and Washington, and most crucially of Wellstone's family. Only one other contender came close: Alan Page, an African-American former professional football player and a current member of the state supreme court.

50 posted on 10/31/2002 8:26:40 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Hunble
AG Hatch is up now. He is a 'rat, but seems to be opposing the DFL lawyer.
51 posted on 10/31/2002 8:27:10 AM PST by TonyInOhio
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To: Hunble
Thanks TonyInOhio!

You're welcome!

52 posted on 10/31/2002 8:28:20 AM PST by TonyInOhio
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To: TonyInOhio
Love the way the media and the DFL call the absentee provisions articulated by the AG and the Secretary of State a "plan." It's the LAW.

RATS just don't like this law. Well, tough. Death's a bitch in elections. And they are attempting to screw all other candidates across the spectrum in down-ballot races.

53 posted on 10/31/2002 8:29:31 AM PST by mwl1
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To: ELS

204B.41 Vacancy in nomination; changing ballots.

When a vacancy in nomination occurs through the death or catastrophic illness of a candidate after the 16th day before the general election, the officer in charge of preparing the ballots shall prepare and distribute a sufficient number of separate paper ballots which shall be headed with the words "OFFICIAL SUPPLEMENTAL BALLOT." This ballot shall contain the title of the office for which the vacancy in nomination has been filled and the names of all the candidates nominated for that office. The ballot shall conform to the provisions governing the printing of other official ballots as far as practicable. The title of the office and the names of the candidates for that office shall be blotted out or stricken from the regular ballots by the election judges. The official supplemental ballot shall be given to each voter when the voter is given the regular ballot or is directed to the voting machine. Regular ballots shall not be changed nor shall official supplemental ballots be prepared as provided in this section during the three calendar days before an election. Absentee ballots that have been mailed prior to the preparation of official supplemental ballots shall be counted in the same manner as if the vacancy had not occurred. Official supplemental ballots shall not be mailed to absent voters to whom ballots were mailed before the official supplemental ballots were prepared.

HIST: 1981 c 29 art 4 s 41; 1986 c 444; 1991 c 320 s 13

Copyright 2002 by the Office of Revisor of Statutes, State of Minnesota.

http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/st02/204B/41.html

54 posted on 10/31/2002 8:29:55 AM PST by deport
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To: TonyInOhio
I love listening to legal arguments. Who knows, even at my old age, perhaps someday I may actually attempt to get a formal legal education.

AG Hatch is now mentioning the military....

55 posted on 10/31/2002 8:30:33 AM PST by Hunble
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To: deport
Since when did law matter regarding elections?
56 posted on 10/31/2002 8:31:01 AM PST by smith288
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To: TonyInOhio
DFL lawyer alleges that automated phone calls have been going out urging voters to hurry and get their absentee ballots voted before the Court rules

We received an automated call, reminding voters to request an absentee ballot if they hadn't already, and to mail their ballot in ASAP. I thought this was reasonable, given that the election is only days away. Absolutely nothing was said about the court.

57 posted on 10/31/2002 8:31:06 AM PST by Otta B Sleepin
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To: TonyInOhio; steveegg
Tony - the problem seems to be only with your browser. Steve indicates that he can see it -and I have verified with other Freepers that they can as well...

DON'T EVER question my HTML again!!DAMNIT... (just kidding)

58 posted on 10/31/2002 8:31:19 AM PST by phasma proeliator
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To: concerned about politics
Coleman needs to get him out into a debate.

It won't matter how awful he is, even if there is a debate--
Case in Point:
Frank Lautenberg was horrible in the NJ debates last night, doddering, nasty, conmpletely off-topic and dismissive to the other candidates. Do the local (Jersey) papers and news reports reflect this truth ?? Nope -- they are saying things like "Lautenberg went after Forrester forcefully" and "hit his points well" that he "asked important questions regarding Forrester's change of position on abortion" (making sure that they bring up something that hurts Forrester with his own supporters). They even made reference to Lautenbergs having served in the military, while Forrester did not (unfair point, Forrester signed up for the draft but was not called--whereas Lautenberg looked old enough to have served in WW I). Watching the debate and then hearing/reading the reports in the media makes one think you were tuned to the wrong station -- it's like an "alternate universe" thing *SIGH*

59 posted on 10/31/2002 8:33:21 AM PST by twyn1
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To: mwl1
AG is raising the issue of military ballots and referring to equal protection problems. He seems to be adhering to the statute generally...woman Justice (I believe the Chief Justice) asks about the Constitutional issue. Justice Page asks specifically about absentee ballots that have already come in - "do they get counted"? Hatch says statute says they get counted. Page doesn't seem to like that answer - seems to be making the point that the 'rats are trying to raise equal protection issue to throw out the absentees
60 posted on 10/31/2002 8:34:04 AM PST by TonyInOhio
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