Posted on 10/30/2002 2:19:55 AM PST by kattracks
NewsMax rarely discusses paranormal things, and we give short shrift to such out-of-this-world wisdom -- even if CNN’s Larry King has mainstreamed psychics.
True, most psychics are quacks or frauds who like to make big after-the-fact claims and cash in on their fame.
But one apparently isn’t.
Her name is Elizabeth Baron.
A self-described "spiritualist" from Charleston, S.C., Baron offered a series of stunning insights into the recent sniper attacks around Washington.
Some of them were recorded on radio before the snipers were captured, making her claims more than credible.
Soon after the spree killings began on Oct. 2, Baron claimed that there was indeed an Islamic connection to the killings.
She also said – contrary to the many "profilers" spouting off – that the killings were being conducted by more than one individual.
She stated that a group of as many as five individuals were involved, although all did not do the killings themselves.
Baron also insists that an unidentified woman is involved.
Interestingly, Baron may have had a premonition of the attacks in April of this year. At that time she faxed a letter to a friend close to the FBI, indicating that Maryland was in danger and needed to be protected.
Days before the shooting of the man at the Ponderosa steak house in Ashland, Va., Baron said she had received the message "They will surrender in Richmond."
Ashland is a suburb of Richmond. According to press reports police have said that they almost captured Muhammad and Malvo at a pay phone in Richmond soon after the Ashland shooting.
Baron believes that the shooting in the Richmond area gave the police the evidence and clues they needed to help solve the case.
On Oct. 21, Baron said she began intense prayer to help her define the killer. She penciled a sketch of a very young man she believed was black or Hispanic.
She received another message: The man is with another man and they are driving a blue car.
All of that sounds rather fantastic and fabricated.
It might have been dismissed as such had it not been recorded for posterity on a national radio program.
On Tuesday, Oct. 22, Baron was an early morning guest on Phil Paleologos’ morning talk radio show "American Breakfast," broadcast on Cable Radio Network.
Paleologos told NewsMax he remains in awe of Baron’s prediction and revelations two days before the arrest of Muhammad and Malvo, before anyone even knew who was doing these killings.
"She came on my show and said, 'The Feds are on a wild goose chase; there is no white van involved, there is a blue car,'" Paleologos recalled, adding that Baron also made clear the killings involved a group and not one person.
"But she was really emphatic about this blue vehicle," Paleologos said, who noted that the only talk at the time had been of a white van.
When news broke late Wednesday night into Thursday morning that Muhammad and Malvo were suspects and may be driving a blue Caprice -- one they were later captured in – Paleologos was stunned.
The next day, he called Baron and played her on-air interview from days before, and congratulated her.
Paleologos says in all of his years on radio, Baron is the only person he has interviewed who he believes has true spiritual, psychic abilities.
"She has a gift. It's a blessing to have this, to help solve these cases and right wrongs," Paleologos told NewsMax. He said she is different in many ways from other psychics, and that she is not motivated by fame or fortune.
Baron, the mother of seven children, is the widow of a former Chicago-area police chief.
Baron has been issuing warnings about Islamic terrorism for several years. Since 1996, she has been saying that several nations, including Iraq and Iran, were helping to plan a major terrorist attack in lower Manhattan, specifically noting the New York Stock Exchange and the World Trade Center as targets.
In recent months, Baron says she has received some warnings about President Bush and Vice President Cheney, which she has passed on to federal authorities. She wouldn’t disclose the full details of these revelations publicly.
On another matter, asked if Steve Hatfill had anything to do with the anthrax attacks, she said, "It’s an absolute lie." Still, she added, the FBI is trying to find something on him to justify its investigation and actions against him.
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I simply included the ENGLISH definitions, but was explicitly referring to the LATIN and the GREEK origins...
[Middle English, from Late Latin daemon, from Latin, spirit, from Greek daimon, divine power.]
In other words, the word demon in English means something entirely different in Greek and Latin. That was the point I was trying to make. I was ALSO making the point that the Scriptures were translated to Latin and English from Greek. They didn't speak modern English in those days you know.
With that considered, if the Latin daemon means 'spirit', and the Greek daimon means 'divine power', what exactly was meant when the word daimon was utilized in Scripture?
Now do you see how this can get confusing? In fact, you've never answered my original question as to exactly WHERE in Scripture the word is used. Can you find a reference?
I DO understand the current useage of the word. I'm simply trying to say that it didn't always mean the same thing as it does today. That is why I'd like to see how exactly the word was used if it was used at all....
You would have had a lot of fun in Salem, MA back in the 1600's. Lighten up a bit and realize that not everything you don't understand equates to witchcraft. You apparently have no understanding of what real witchcraft is. There are many types of witchcraft, but they all revolve around the concept of appeasing deities and/or asking for the assistance of spirits (or demons) for power over Nature in the material world.
Understand this one thing, there is no such thing as GOOD WITCHES and BAD WITCHES, it is all evil.
Understand this. When you pray to God, you are asking for a favor usually, correct? What you are doing is practicing WITCHCRAFT, as you are asking a deity to assist you to effect a change in the material world. You are effectively trying to cast a spell. It would appropriately be called sorcery if instead of praying to God, you were asking for the assistance of evil spirits to do your bidding.
Once again, which of the verses I listed that clearly state that what this women does is forbidden by God don't you understand?
That which you mention 'clearly' forbids eating meat. Are you a vegetarian? I'll get back to you on that topic in a separate post.
That's the exect same point I have been trying to make to you. You have this simple, pop culture understanding of the topic.
Is Ms. Baron a Freeper perhaps?
We do know that everyone experiences the surprise of 'coincidence'. . .synchronicty, in their lives. You do not consciously make it happen - no event is ever identical in how it manifests and these 'happenings' while 'real' cannot be recreated in a lab or a 'test'. . .But we know 'it' happens. . .
Perhaps you can explain, the why of 'hunches', coincidences, intuition; or just feelings (save brain locus etc.)These experieces cannot be quantified or measured either; they are not precisely 'predictable'; nor are they'made to order'. We do not however deny their existance; we just 'name it' and by that naming, we move the irrational to the 'rational' and no longer need to ponder the challenges they offer in terms of questioning the possibilities of a greater reality than the one we assume. . .
The 'psychic' stems from the same world of the irrational; it operates from 'feelings' and yes, and just as unpredictable; and with no guarantees. . .and short of challenging statistical odds; it is not laboratory worthy.
Regarding 'Randi' (and yes, I am familiar with his work - and in my haste I thoughtlessly mispelled his name - mea culpa offered); and I am not denying that much of what passes as psychic is as 'real' as a magic act. . .but to challenge all things 'psychic' still requires mental gymnastics that in the end, do challenge even the magic of the 'Amazing Randi'.
. . .and even a 'magic act' offers a challenge to a sceptic that there is more to reality than meets the eye.
. . .and of coure, Faith Healers, belong to a different classification of 'magic act'. . .but still depend on the same suspension of belief - if only in the mind of the beholder.
. . .and you can save those 'kumbaya's. . .please. . .
I do believe people can have a prophetic gift from God, but there are two qualifications: first, they have to state that they are relaying information given by God. Secondly, their predictions have to be 100% on the mark. Otherwise, they are false prophets and in the Old Testament days were subject to stoning. Not a lot of grey area there.
This is not a matter of dismissing something because we don't understand it. It's a matter of dismissing something because we understand the various methods of deception and fraud involved.
I "don't understand" how a 'Rat precinct can get 110% voter turnout, but I don't consider it evidence of a supernatural event.
Puh-leeze. If correctly predicting that the sniper attacks were the work of several Islamist wack-jobs is evidence of psychic power, then there are dozens if not hundreds of "psychics" among the regular FReepers.
LOL -- maybe Clowntoon and his various enablers are "psychic". They sure knew how to obfuscate clear facts into vague fog.
Dozens of people right here were saying multiple shooters, based on the mix of head and body shots.
Better round up the 'Rat precinct captains before Tuesday, then....
Not taking away anything from anyone here, for sure! . . . and I am not defending the merits or lack thereof, of this psychic. . .only those that would deny the existance of anything psychic. . .and simply denounce all as bogus. . .or even 'hocus-pocus'. . .or worse.
. . .just offering a view that offers that there are numerous phenomena that challenge us to enlarge our view of things. . .that's all. . .
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