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Vietnam was a Noble Cause
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| 28oct02
| Darren Morrison
Posted on 10/28/2002 4:47:19 PM PST by RMrattlesnake
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Lets make sure our VETS no that it was not for nothing
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To: xin loi
Yep. Where were Hanoi Jane and the McGovernites when those millions were being exterminated? Not a single peep eminated from the whole lot of them. The peacnicks and all the other radical Marxists peddling their wares as the only ones who cared about the Asians, were absolutely mute.
Today they're all back under the ANSWER umbrella. Who funds these a--holes? Russia hasn't the funding. Who does? I'd like to know.
To: RMrattlesnake
NEVER FORGET
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-Battle of IA DRANG-1965
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To: RMrattlesnake
Lets make sure our VETS no that it was not for nothing.It's not the VETS who have to be convinced. Let the families of those who made the ultimate sacrifice know. Those are the people that who are most forgotten. The mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers. Tell them.
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posted on
10/28/2002 5:48:38 PM PST
by
Cagey
To: DoughtyOne
Who funds these liars?
A lot of commie groups you've heard of and a lot you haven't. Individual donations(tax-deductible), grants from foundations and most likely tax money from you and me fund these moronic traitors. The media gives them free and favorable public relations.
In Memory of Sgt."Moose" Himes.
- We don't get fooled again. -
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To: RMrattlesnake
That era was mostly about a convergence of two interests. The communist party in America had always been a factor in our government, and in society, but they didnt really have that much power. They didnt have that much power until the most selfish generation in American history happened to come of draft age. That would be the baby boomers so, you are dead on with your point about them becoming useful idiots. The commies seduced the boomers by telling them that the war was unjust, and that dovetailed nicely with the boomers selfishness. The boomers werent use to doing anything that they did not want to do. The commies now had force in numbers, and they had clout. The thing most pundits overlook is the protests stopped as soon as the draft was eliminated because the boomers were no longer interested. I feel I can be critical of that generation because I was one. Yes Viet Nam was a noble cause, and it will be to my everlasting shame that my generation probably is responsible for the deaths of so many of the vets.
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posted on
10/28/2002 6:18:10 PM PST
by
dix
To: martian_22
I agree with you.
To: DoughtyOne
Actually, George McGovern wanted to explore military action to stop the killing perpetuated by Pol Pot in Cambodia. Problem was, it was so close on to he debacle of the fall of Saigon that nobody in the US goverment had the stomach to go back in to SE Asia. I always wonder what went through McGovern's mind when he saw the results of our withdrawal from SE Asia. I know that grass was growing in the streets of Phnom Pen while Pol Pot and his freedom fighters were killing their fellow Cambodians with spades because bullets were too expensive.
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posted on
10/28/2002 6:40:54 PM PST
by
Nakota
To: RMrattlesnake; Orion78
And as a direct result of our failure to fully engage and defeat the Communists in Vietnam, and, instead, to kowtow to a bunch of flag burning spoiled brats who really did deserve a "bloodbath" (to quote Reagan), not only did Vietnam fall to the enemies of the USA and the West, so too did Laos and Cambodia. With our tail between our legs, we went from being a strong presence in a SEATO defined Southeast Asia to just another country among supposed equals. Even countries like Thailand started to lick the boots of the PRC, and now, at a time when geopolitically we ought to be deploying road mobile missiles all over SE Asia to stand down the PRC and Pakistan with their DF-21s and Shaheens, instead, we've got no bases and kowtow to Pakistan, who along with Myanmar and the PRC threaten to one day blitz the remaining free nations of the SE. There is no doubt in my mind that we made a big mistake by not declaring war against the N. Vietnamese and those who supported them way back in '64 or '65. Our feeble, ambiguous, post-WW-II foreign policy is just now becoming truly apparent as the disaster that it was; in the coming wars of mass destruction, thrust upon the US and our few remaining allies by the enemies of Western Civilization, we shall come to regret every single compromise, draw, withdrawl and other wussy act that we have shamefully allowed since 1945. Our irrational fears of direct confrontation with other nuclear armed nations have paralyzed our brains and led to self deception upon self deception. We are to the present age as the UK were to the period 1919 - 1939. Now, may the flaming by wishful thinkers, idiotic followers of defeatist MAD, lackeys of Thomas L. Friedman and apoligists to post-war moderation begin! I relish it, for it teaches me much and further serves to prove me correct.
To: RMrattlesnake
Thank you!
To: Nakota
I appreciate your take on McGovern. The problem is, that once the barn door is open, the cows are out. McGovern and his fellow travelers ushered in the genocide. Everybody tried to tell them that there was more on the table than ugly American, beautiful NVC. Once they'd done their magic, there was no rescuing the victims of their ideology.
McGovern and his fellow travelers are responsible for the deaths of millions. I hope the weight of this crushes that son of a b.
His fellow travelers spit on the troops as they returned. I've spit on the memory of that prick for thirty years.
To: RMrattlesnake
I caught a repeat of a C-Span interview with Mort Kondrake (Fox News' Beltway Boys) over the weekend and was very interested to hear that the reason he finally abandoned his youthful allegiance to the liberal Democrats was his revulsion about the Democratic Senate's refusal to vote the six hundred million dollars assistance promised to South Vietnam in case the North violated the truce ending the war, which they did immediately. "These poor people in the south were dying, and the liberals, who usually were happy to spend money on all sorts of things, wouldn't support military efforts to try to help them", were Kondrake's approximate words. This was the real betrayal in the war - militarily, the North had been fought to a standstill and the South, although weak, had a chance to maintain its independence with promised assistance in weapons and materials, but no troops, from the US. Senate Democrats reneged on the promise, without a doubt in large part from the petty motivation that they had to justify their antiwar sentiments, and of course the South, seeing themselves abandoned, crumbled. Tragic.
If you haven't already read it, you might find interesting Michael Lind's book Vietnam, The Necessary War. Lind makes the rather bizarre argument that we definitely should have been in Vietnam but that we should have abandoned the war sooner, since it went on too long in his view. Nevertheless his basic premise - that Vietnam was one of several necessary proxie wars we had to fight with China and USSR to maintain our own freedom and security - fits well with your comments and helps affirm that those who fought there served their country well....
To: DoughtyOne
The only one to speak out against this was Joan Baez.
Who was promptly taken to the woodshed and given a stern talking too.
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posted on
10/29/2002 5:23:32 AM PST
by
Valin
To: RMrattlesnake; dd5339; cavtrooper21
Thanks for the freepmail ping!
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posted on
10/29/2002 7:18:24 AM PST
by
Vic3O3
To: belmont_mark; sport; Matt Drudge; Joy Angela; FreddieKruger; JLO; DoughtyOne; doug from upland; ...
NEVER FORGET
...Friend of HILLARY...
...Anti-U.S. WALTER CRONKITE fooled US on TV into leaving the poor souls of S.E. Asia behind to the fate at that hands of the invading Communist Bullies in the Killing Fields.
...Yesterday Anti-U.S. WALTER CRONKITE tried to scare US into not acting against Mass-Killer SADDAM with a threat that we would start World War III if we did act.
HILLARY =
CRONKITE =
HO CHI MINH =
1-Dead
1-Too Old to run
1-Too Young not to run for President =
HILLARY doing here now what she did to support HO CHI MINH during the Vietnam War long ago in full partnership with her friend Anti-U.S. WALTER CRONKITE.
PRAY, PREPARE -&- VOTE against all of HILLARY's Friends on November 5th. ALL of THEM.
Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE/a Witness
NEVER FORGET
To: belmont_mark; sport; Matt Drudge; Joy Angela; FreddieKruger; JLO; DoughtyOne; doug from upland; ...
NEVER FORGET
...Friend of HILLARY...
...Anti-U.S. WALTER CRONKITE fooled US on TV into leaving the poor souls of S.E. Asia behind to their fate at the hands of the invading Communist Bullies in the Killing Fields.
...Yesterday Anti-U.S. WALTER CRONKITE tried to scare US into not acting against Mass-Killer SADDAM with a threat that we would start World War III if we did act.
HILLARY =
CRONKITE =
HO CHI MINH =
1-Dead
1-Too Old to run
1-Too Young not to run for President =
HILLARY doing here now what she did to support HO CHI MINH during the Vietnam War long ago in full partnership with her friend Anti-U.S. WALTER CRONKITE.
PRAY, PREPARE -&- VOTE against all of HILLARY's Friends on November 5th. ALL of THEM.
Signed:..ALOHA RONNIE/a Witness
NEVER FORGET
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