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Descent into Evil (John Muhammad suspected of attack on US troops during Gulf War)
Newsweek ^
| Nov 4 2002 issue
| Evan Thomas
Posted on 10/28/2002 9:14:43 AM PST by spycatcher
"...[John Muhammad] Williamss unit was sent to Operation Desert Storm to clear mines and bulldoze holes in enemy lines. A few nights before the invasion of Iraq, Sergeant Berentson awoke in the early hours to find his tent, with 16 sleeping men inside, on fire. Someone had tossed in a thermite grenade. Berentson, who was fed up with Williamss insubordination, immediately suspected Williams and told the Armys Criminal Investigative Division. Berentson says he last saw Williams being led away in handcuffs. Williamss military records make no mention of the incident; indeed, they suggest Williams had a distinguished gulf-war stint. But Berentson always kept Williamss name and dog-tag number in his wallet. He says he was not surprised to see Williamss face on television..."
Back to the current attacks:
"...A witness outside the Fredericksburg, Va., Michaels craft store, scene of a shooting on Oct. 4, reported a dark-colored vehicle with New Jersey tags leaving the scene. A woman calling the tip line on Oct. 7 said she had spotted a black man crouching beneath the dashboard in a dark Chevy Caprice. The woman was struck by the intensity of the mans stare. The agent on the tip line brushed her off. Were looking for a white truck, she said.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abdurahmanalamoudi; balkans; dcsniper; domesticterrorism; gulfwar; jihadinamerica; johnallenmuhammed; muhammad; redcross; sniper; treason
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To: SarahW
This is outrageous! Everyone who was shot and killed after October 7 died unnecessarily.
I would have called my local police at 911, despite the Task Force's insistence that one should not do this, but rather direct all tips into their incompetent pipeline.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:07:51 AM PST
by
Palladin
To: spycatcher
As this Caprice was in prior use as a police undercover vehicle, I wonder if the sniper perch and holes were there when Muhammad bought the car?
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:08:02 AM PST
by
per loin
To: spycatcher
Someone capable of randomly picking off pretty much anyone who walked into his gun sights, day after day, must be in the thrall of some frothing-at-the-mouth psychosisif not the Devil, certainly his disciples. Right? Some top federal officials had suspected that the snipers were Qaeda assassins.I see no difference between these morons and Al Qaeda assassins. Al Qaeda is made up of crazy murderous Muslims and John Muhammad is a crazy murderous Muslim. Bin Laden would have gladly approved of John Muhammad's making mayhem in and around our nation's capital.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:09:00 AM PST
by
dennisw
To: spycatcher
Can you imagine? Wanting to be a serial mass murderer? Actually becoming one AND nobody paying attention to you? Everyone just letting you go free? Year after year. I wonder how many others are out there lurking?
To: Grampa Dave
Nation of Islam Serial Killers! Truth in reporting. You'll never hear the lamestream media use that appellation.
The old wisdom--calling a spade a spade!
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:14:05 AM PST
by
Palladin
To: dennisw
To: dennisw
To: browardchad
I was waiting for someone in the press to investigate his service in the Gulf War, and here it is, completely in keeping with his character.
Check this out:
Neighbors said that back around 1992, roughly the same time Muhammad lived in the Pinole house, FBI agents questioned them about the man."A long time ago, (the FBI) came over here and asked people about the people across the street," said a 21-year-old neighbor who refused to give his name. The neighbor said he and his parents lived on the street at the time. He added that the family believed the FBI questioning was related to Muhammad's military service.
During that military service, Muhammad was stationed at Fort Ord in Monterey County, as well as other places. He served in the 1991 Persian Gulf War.
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As if the story of his being suspected of igniting the tent, and his past record in the Louisiana National Guard weren't enough, after he left the Army, he joined the Oregon National Guard, despite the fact that he never legally lived in Oregon.
Have you got the links on his Oregon National Guard Service? Do you know where he was stationed and when?
To: Grampa Dave
From what I heard, LE was watching that phone booth b/c these perps made one of their phone calls to the police from it. However, I still agree with you that it was a set-up.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:19:34 AM PST
by
twigs
To: Palladin
We know that the media will never report this reality:
Nation of Islam Serial KillersSo it is up to us to label these serial killers as Nation of Islam Serial Killers!
I'm not using the typical word, radical. I don't think these two Nation of Islam Serial Killers are all that abnormal in the world of the Nation of Islam Serial Killers.
To: Dog
I saw a report over the weekend that said the day they caught those two illegals at the phone booth ...on one cable networks footage you can see the blue Chevy Caprice in the background.Dateline, Primetime, or 20-20 I don't remember which, as I was watching them all, had film footage of the take down of the two illegals, and yes in the background at another phone booth were the two snipers.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:25:04 AM PST
by
Spunky
To: spycatcher
The radius of the burst is approximately 6 meters, but fragments of the plastic body occasionally fly as far as 27 meters. Effective portions of the agent may be carried as far as 75 to 100 meters downwind. Personnel using these grenades should wear protective gas masks. I don't know where you got this data from, but a thermite grenade does not do this.
You DO not have to wear a protective mask and it does not burst or carry agents as you stated.
To: spycatcher
Dear Newsweek:
His name is Muhammed. It has been legally changed to Muhammed.
To: Grampa Dave
How many more Nation of Islam anti Americans have been in our military and are in it do damage to our good service people. I don't know, but, it sure does seem like we have a lot of so-called "friendly fire" anymore.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:30:53 AM PST
by
Spunky
To: spycatcher
Where are all of the people that said this guy was not related to ME terrorism. I am serving crow in the lunchroom in 15 minutes.
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:32:46 AM PST
by
Mixer
To: Sabertooth
Someone on Fox is reading these threads. They interviewed the coffeehouse singer and also this morning the guy who sold the car from Sure Shot autos in Camden.
According to the interview this morning, the car was not modified when it was sold. Also Malvo was not with Mohammad at the time he looked for the car, just the co-owner. Mohammed was not very talkative, spun a line about being from Jamaica, then started to talk with an accent. Salesman said he remembered him because after saying he was from Jamaica, and then saying he was from Canada but of Jamaican ancestry, he then pulled out a DC driver's license. Salesman said he could not engage the guy in conversation.
FBI merely asked him if he had sold the car, and asked him who bought it. Apparently Fox asked more detailed questions than the FBI.
To: spycatcher
Does anyone have Muhammad's SSN? With it I know how to get his Army record (all perfectly legal)...
To: pabianice
Would it be on his divorce decree or the restraining order that was published here earlier?
To: Spunky
Unfortunately Friendly Fire went back to the days of the Civil War and was quite prominent in Viet Nam.
I think that there will be less with the all volunteer military, but this scares the hell out of me.
To: Steve Van Doorn
I am looking for an explanation as to why the authorities were looking for a white cargo van or a white astro van? I am not aware of any further infromation that has been released regarding this fact.
Also, I am sick and tired of the media flashing on the tv screen over and over the photo of malvo and muhammad sitting ot the couch together smiling, like they are one happy family. These thugs are cold blooded killers! Where is the outrage, just because they are black?
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posted on
10/28/2002 10:38:12 AM PST
by
Mr. D
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