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Operation Infinite FReep, Columbia, MO 10/26/02
self | 10/26/02 | Bluesagewoman;DogRobber

Posted on 10/26/2002 12:58:13 PM PDT by bluesagewoman

Are Peaceniks Anti-American?

This morning was chilly and dreary, in more ways than just the weather. Though most of the peaceniks were gone to the national protests, those who were left behind were the more obnoxious and narrow-minded of the group. Upon arrival we were greeted by the peacenik in the tie-dyed shirt with “Good morning, warmongers.” DogRobber responded with, “Good morning, peacenik idiot.” Not the best comeback, but heart-felt regardless.

The peacenik group had an unusual addition, a local physician who set up shop with two chairs and a sign reading, “dialog.” He is a pacifist and wanted the experience of engaging in “dialog” with people who did not share his view. I believe he had an interesting personal journey.

The peaceniks and the kind doctor took offense at the sign we had that stated that not all Missourians were “anti-American.” The question arises, at least in my mind, is pushing a socialist agenda, demanding no action in the face of aggressive and irrational dictators, and once again dividing our country in the face of evil, anti-American? Notice the word is “anti-American,” and not un-American. Lord knows dissent, protesting, and personal opinions are as American as Boston tea parties.

*“George Orwell attributed pacifists' contrarian arguments as a manifestation of their separation from the roots of the common culture of their country and in particular the resolve of their own governments, and the people, to resist aggression. ‘The average intellectual of the [pacifist] Left believed, he wrote, "that the war was lost in 1940, that the Germans were bound to overrun Egypt in 1942, that the Japanese would never be driven out of the lands they had conquered, and that the Anglo-American bombing offensive was making no impression on Germany. He could believe these things because his hatred of the British ruling class forbade him to admit that British plans could succeed. There is no limit to the follies that can be swallowed if one is under the influence of feelings of this kind.’”

“Orwell clearly had neither patience for such follies, nor any doubts of the need for democracies to be prepared to use force in their defense, pre-emptive or not. "Civilization," he said, ‘rests ultimately on coercion. What holds society together is not the policeman but the goodwill of common men, and yet that goodwill is powerless unless the policeman is there to back it up. . . . Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it.’”* (Taken from below link)

Orwell, obviously, was an anti-totalitarian and sounded a warning against totalitarian fascism in his book 1984. Today’s peace protesters fail to understand the difference between the vicious coercion of totalitarianism, and the use of force by the forces of social order in opposing oppressive governments. At today’s FReep one militant protester declared that Dogrobber’s photography was “oppressing” him and was an attempt to intimidate him; a reflection of that inability to discriminate between the violence of evil and the use of force to control evil. Until pacifists and ant-war protesters can develop the ability to look beyond the simplistic understanding of war and peace of “kill-bad, not kill-good,” they will forever doom us to dealing with evil at the 11th hour when the sword will be at our collective throats. Witness Neville Chamberlain and the Munich Appeasement. Witness the Yalta conference that allowed 40 years of Stalinist control of the Eastern Block. Witness the Paris Accords that ushered in the purge of South Vietnam and Pol Pot’s butchery.

Now is not the time to be just the silent witness of our age. Speak out against evil and for its destruction. Do not let the peacenik groups assist the tyrants of our times with divisions, loss of resolve, and an inability to identify evil.

*From (earlier article link)

Would you feel intimidated looking at this sweet mug?

Another earth-shattering observation from the peacenik intelligentsia.

Bret is enjoying the quiet responses to his sign.

Bluesage at it again.

All dressed up and no one to talk to?

I’m oppressed, dammit, I’m oppressed, I tell you! OPPRESSED!

It hasn’t changed a bit.


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KEYWORDS: freep; missouri; peacenik
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To: bluesagewoman; All
God Bless the Missouri FReepers!
21 posted on 10/26/2002 7:51:21 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; All
I hope you are watching CSPAN right now! INCREDIBLE!

Mr. Doctor, this is what we were trying to explain to you this morning. Believe us now?

Peaceniks, put that in your smoke and pipe it! Those are some courageous Iraqis. There is a time for peace and a time for war.

22 posted on 10/26/2002 9:04:31 PM PDT by bluesagewoman
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To: bluesagewoman; Dogrobber; bretmilk; zip
Good job MO FReepers. Way to stay in the peaceniks faces. I think you are right in that they will never understand logic, but keep annoying them.
24 posted on 10/27/2002 3:37:56 AM PST by Kathy in Alaska
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To: Kathy in Alaska
Double post. Sorry.
26 posted on 10/27/2002 3:42:04 AM PST by Kathy in Alaska
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To: bluesagewoman; zip; bretmilk; Reborn; duffer; Bahbah; BOBWADE; KSCITYBOY; Prov3456; bogeyman; ...
Peaceniks take for granted that all Muslims want a dictator to rule their countries and lives. We have argued to no effect that America not only fights for our own freedom, but the freedom of others. It is immoral to condemn Iraqis (and others who wish freedom) to life under a mad man, by our inaction or fear of warfare. We argue that Saddam is the Hitler of our age. Maybe the Iraqi voices will convince the peacemongers!

. It took Free Republic to help give the Iraqi people a platform and a voice ...

It is a necessity that free people oppose those who destroy freedom. One cannot savor freedom in comfort while others stoop under the yoke of slavery. If not out of the obligation we owe to one another, then out of the personal interest that comes from insuring that the slave taker will not come for us.

"Sadam's a Killer, he must go."

"Sadam's a Facist, he must go."

"Death, Death, Death to Sadam."

Out of the mouths of those who know him best, his own people. Out of the mouths of those who know that his end will cost their own families and friends and are willing to stand that cost. Out of the mouths of those who have already suffered his oppression and murder. If only we would hear their cries for freedom. When CNN, FOX, and CBS have these people on their nightly fare, will we know the message is out.

27 posted on 10/27/2002 5:26:39 AM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: bluesagewoman
Thanks for taking up your weekly post.
28 posted on 10/27/2002 9:10:15 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: bluesagewoman
Sunday Morning Bump! Keep up the great reporting Blue.
29 posted on 10/27/2002 9:17:20 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: bluesagewoman; zip; SAMWolf; bretmilk; Prov3456; Reborn; rface; duffer; Bahbah; KSCITYBOY; ...
I love how you write Bluesage. I agree, they ARE anit-American and you put it so well. I think their brains must be formed differently and I thank God they are in the very tiny minority. I just wish the media would stop giving them coverage and give all their coverage to those like all of you supporting the troops.

Love you all and I am so proud of you.

30 posted on 10/27/2002 10:47:35 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: bluesagewoman; zip; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Bahbah; Ben Hecks; Reborn; BringingUpPatriots; ...
Bumping for wonderful freepers supporting the troops.
31 posted on 10/27/2002 11:02:16 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: bluesagewoman; GooberDoll; radu; HiJinx; Johnny Gage; backhoe; Iowa Granny
Bump for wonderful freepers supporting our troops.
32 posted on 10/27/2002 11:05:22 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny; SAMWolf
Thank you so much for your support. We were getting no where quickly, until we joined Operation Infinite FReep. The exposure you have given us through the Canteen, and the support of other Infinite FReepers has made all the difference in our mission, and morale. Bless you!

Since we know our troops see our messages and our support, we've undertaken the counters with renewed passion and persistence. Your dedication and drive are instrumental in keeping this going. Again, thanks to you all!

33 posted on 10/27/2002 11:05:57 AM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: bluesagewoman; ALOHA RONNIE; The Shrew; leadpenny; LaDivaLoca; The Mayor
Bumping for wonderful freepers supporting the troops.
34 posted on 10/27/2002 11:17:46 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: bluesagewoman
Bluesage, I am soooo proud of you and your group. I wish I lived near so FallGuy and I could join you with every freep. Gosh I would love that and so would FallGuy.
35 posted on 10/27/2002 11:21:20 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: bluesagewoman; All
God Bless the MO Freepers!! Thank you for supporting our troops!! Keep up the great work! Your fans are from all over the country and our troops all over the world!!
36 posted on 10/27/2002 12:38:18 PM PST by MoJo2001
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To: bluesagewoman
Another beautifully written essay Bluesagewoman.
One thing that strikes me about your peaceniks in particular, is that they always seem to have signs and slogans that I just can't make sense of. All of them do, but some of the ones you face seem to be a little more obscure than others I have seen.
Maybe they are just too intellectual for me huh? If that is the case, I prefer to be stupid! :-)
Great job freepers in MO!
37 posted on 10/27/2002 1:11:47 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: SAMWolf
"Good morning, warmongers." DogRobber responded with, "Good morning, peacenik idiot." Not the best comeback, but heart-felt regardless.

LOL!!! I love it.

Today's peace protesters fail to understand the difference between the vicious coercion of totalitarianism, and the use of force by the forces of social order in opposing oppressive governments.

You're absolutely right, Blue. Thanks so much for your report and pics.

Thanks for the ping, Sam.

Bump!

38 posted on 10/27/2002 1:17:45 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: ladyinred
...they always seem to have signs and slogans that I just can't make sense of.

Do you mean that you don't know how to win an earthquake? (my favorite)

39 posted on 10/27/2002 1:25:07 PM PST by zip
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“Good morning, warmongers.” DogRobber responded with, “Good morning, peacenik idiot.”

I'm glad Dogrobber was there to respond. I would have used one of my intelligent comments like "I know you are but what am I?". lol

40 posted on 10/27/2002 1:29:50 PM PST by zip
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