1,000 Republican Students Denied Right to Vote

Generation GOP - Arkansas ^ | Oct. 22, 2002

[lepton]

You ignored the word "solely". They can become residents by demonstrating intent, and fulfilling residency requirements. Also "Temporary" doesn't mean a portion of one's life, it generally means a brief period. In the case of the military, one can either keep ones previous residency, or adapt residency in the new location if it is a "Permenant Duty Station" rather than merely TDY.

What cannot happen is for them to have their residency changed against their will.

[Saundra Duffy]

This is a hate crime.

[lepton]

I don't see any other way of getting vote fraud under control.

Well, we could start by prosecuting cases where fraud is actually discovered.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"I fail to understand JoeMamma's outrage."
It's not outrage, it's a sound argument.

"These students were legally registered to vote."
Do you know that for sure? Is legal residency required to legally register in AR? If so, the students were not legally registered and the judge followed the rule of law. That is JoeMamma's argument. It all depends on the law in AR.

"Dem judge has friend with a rep challenger...do you see now? "
Yes, I see. But that fact, as uncomfortable as it may be for us, is immaterial in a case where the law is clear and said judge has ruled on it.

Again, it all depends on the laws in Arkansas. I, for one, am leaving the research up to others on this thread who are more inclined to take the time.

[ladyinred]

But so what? The government found out that many people were registered in NY and at their vacation homes in, you guessed it, Florida! They vote twice and feel they are of course, more than entitled to do so!

[3D-JOY]

In my experience a person may decide where his main address may be. School, home, relatives residence etc.

Applying for a drivers license is often the determining factor.

That is how Homesteading in places with a tax advantage is worked. License and registration if owning a car, and you are considered a resident.
Time spent in the location is impossible to estimate or prove.

Wonder how this would work if applied to the students?

I do not agree that they are all illegal.

[lepton]

Is legal residency required to legally register in AR? If so, the students were not legally registered and the judge followed the rule of law.

Universally, and by virtue of simply having a campus address? Respectfully, that's ridiculous.

[3D-JOY]

Absolutely!

They brag about it and say it is OK because they pay taxes twice too.

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[Bloody Sam Roberts]

The Arkansas Code covers voter qualifications:
7-5-201. Voter qualification.
(6) Persons who are temporarily living in a particular place because of a temporary work-related assignment or duty post or as a result of their performing duties in connection with their status as military personnel, students, or office holders shall be deemed residents of that place where they established their home prior to beginning such assignments or duties.

Thank you for posting that. It seems clear enough.

[wingnuts'nbolts]

Vote absentee! I would ban all campuses from being able to vote period! All those kids can vote at home!!!

[GovernmentShrinker]

Actually, the upshot is that whether they can legally vote in Arkansas or in the county in question depends on their INTENT. If they intend to return to their former residence, they must vote there; otherwise they may vote in their present location. There are two obvious problems with this: 1) there is no way to systematically verify the future intentions of thousands of people on voter rolls, and 2) Many college students honestly have no idea whether they'll stay in the area after graduating, or go back where they came from; some end up working in the area of the college year-round, but they often make this decision at they end of the school year, when they do or do not find a full time summer job locally.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Most students never did lease or own the premises where they lived with their families prior to leaving for college, so that definition isn't really useful.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"...by virtue of simply having a campus address? Respectfully, that's ridiculous."

I agree. Read the law as posted in reply #63. In particular, item #6:

(6) Persons who are temporarily living in a particular place because of a temporary work-related assignment or duty post or as a result of their performing duties in connection with their status as military personnel, students, or office holders shall be deemed residents of that place where they established their home prior to beginning such assignments or duties.

The students are required to vote in the state where they established their home prior to beginning of school. Not in Arkansas.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Joe, I love it that our party holds everyone to a higher standard. The debate is healthy and lively and honest...and the kids are standing up for their rights. All's well in this little corner of the world tonight. (^:

[GovernmentShrinker]

Trust me, someone will see to it that the parentless young Marine gets to vote. The judge's ruling is patently wrong as applied to that kid.

[GovernmentShrinker]

How the heck does one go about discovering it, when there's no way to tell whether people who register to vote are eligible to do so, much less whether the person who uses a registered name to vote is the same person who registered, or an impostor, after the real registrant moved out of the state?

[Arkinsaw]

Joe, I love it that our party holds everyone to a higher standard.

It is great. Reaffirms my belief in it. We should however not dismiss this and move on until the law is applied equally to all students and not just those at conservative and religous universities.

[Norman Conquest]

So the same test will be applied to all the new student registrants in Minnesota? Well, that seems fair.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Actually, if it were up to me, we'd raise the voting age to 35. Then the results wouldn't be so skewed by the votes of naive kids who are susceptible to believing leftist promises of a socialist utopia.