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"DUCK IN A NOOSE" message explained
AP Fox News Story ^ | October 24, 2002 | AP on Fox News

Posted on 10/24/2002 1:18:18 PM PDT by Jeff Head

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:04 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The last cryptic message from Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose to the Washington-area sniper referred to a Cherokee Indian story about an arrogant rabbit that was duped by the duck he tried to catch.

"You have indicated that you want us to do and say certain things. You've asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you," Moose said late Wednesday at a televised news briefing, called so authorities could release information on two people sought for questioning in the 13 sniper shootings.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: beltwaysniper; crime; dcsniper; domesticterrorism; radicalislam; terrorism
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To: seeker41
Lots of FReepers emailed FOX last night about this reference, that is how they figured it out. Saw it happening real time.

That commie Ron Kuby had the chutzpah to take credit for coming up with the story himself this morning on WABC radio (New York).

Claims he remembers it from his peyote-ingesting days with Indians while at the U. of Kansas!

Yeah, right, Kuby. We know you read it here on FreeRepublic. Last night.

81 posted on 10/24/2002 2:31:38 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Jeff Head
Hard to say at this point if we have all of the participants or if we will encounter copycats (possibly even with more written messages by the same author, designed for later incidents).

Once the sniper is in custody, it does not make any sense to bow to his demands.

82 posted on 10/24/2002 2:36:09 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Jeff Head
A local conservative talk show host sugguested that the message might be a code to other "sleeper cells" in the Nation with instructions.
83 posted on 10/24/2002 2:37:34 PM PDT by Merdoug
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To: Jeff Head
In the ancient story, passed down through generations of Cherokee Indians, a rabbit brags that he can catch a duck. He throws a noose over the neck of a duck, but it flies away with the rabbit hanging on. Eventually the rabbit must let go, landing in a hollow tree stump. The conceited animal has to eat his own fur for food and is embarrassed by his appearance when he finally escapes.

"His boastfulness got him in trouble and eventually destroyed him," said Tera Shows, spokeswoman for the Cherokee Nation, based in Tahlequah, Okla.

So......is the US the 'boastful rabbit' who thinks it's ended the terror and will now soon see its boastfulness come back to bite it?

I wonder...........

84 posted on 10/24/2002 2:37:46 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: shhrubbery!
That's right, and I take full credit for being the FIRST to put it on. FOX - e-mail me if you want to give me a job in your legal department. I will require serious coin.
85 posted on 10/24/2002 2:42:51 PM PDT by Julliardsux
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To: Jeff Head
Another Freeper I am no longer sure who pointed out that Like A Duck In A Noose makes a phonetic spelling of a certain international figure's name. Coincidence????

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

86 posted on 10/24/2002 2:51:17 PM PDT by harpseal
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To: glock rocks
You are exactly right. There is something odd about this. When Chief Moose issued this statement, they already KNEW who the suspects were and had put out an APB on them. Why broadcast this? They KNEW they were running?

And why do out of his way to say that the "suspects" were "persons of interest" who were NOT considered to be the snipers---I HEARD this!

87 posted on 10/24/2002 3:05:54 PM PDT by LS
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To: Talldocs1; GovernmentShrinker; Jeff Head; B4Ranch; Grampa Dave; Pete-R-Bilt
i think Government Shrinker has the best explanation so far for this obscure message being released... the release of the message was certainly approved from on high...

but how could anyone in their right minds be that certain that this off-the-wall statement was not code for his compadres, as oppossed to merely assuaging some muddlebrained psycho with a rifle?

they had to know they were looking for a black muslim with an agenda... and they knew the connections he had with others in washington and alabama... so far as to send a group to gitmo for further corroboration.

perhaps a touch more than coincidence?

what good was planned to come from the release of this message? it would be very foolish to underestimate the enemy, if indeed the evil extends beyond these two islamic murderers in this case. why risk it?

somethin ain't right here.

88 posted on 10/24/2002 3:12:54 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Jeff Head
The conceited animal has to eat his own fur for food and is embarrassed by his appearance when he finally escapes.

And who among us didn't know about this?

89 posted on 10/24/2002 3:33:58 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: LS
check out the link regarding the "persons of interest" in #88.
90 posted on 10/24/2002 3:35:12 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Prodigal Son; Jeff Head
Finally he hears voices and calls out to the people to cut open the stump so they can see how beautiful he is. When they do, he escapes.
91 posted on 10/24/2002 3:47:45 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Tired of Taxes
As others have pointed out, there are different spellings. "Ladin" is a spelling the enemy does use. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/775100/posts
for "Letter From Usamah Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin to the American People" on waaqiah.com
92 posted on 10/24/2002 3:59:58 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: Brad's Gramma
OMG...they cut open the stump and found the evidence which may connect and help convict him... the .223 slugs.

incidentally, according to brit hume on foxnews, the AP retracted the story that said the rifle in his trunk matches the ballistics of the slugs removed from the victims.

93 posted on 10/24/2002 4:01:50 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: Tired of Taxes
It is kind of interesting BUT just another "coinky dink" I am sure....
94 posted on 10/24/2002 4:09:09 PM PDT by antivenom
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To: Howlin
LOL!!!! Yes the good old days of FR when you could put in pesky music...remember those OLD threads!!! People went NUTS when the music started! LOL
95 posted on 10/24/2002 4:11:27 PM PDT by antivenom
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To: Jeff Head
I'm not sure the Moose Message was from, or to, the Sniper. It seems like Moose is confirming a "tip" and reasurring the tipster they are acting on it.

What was the Big Tip? How did the authorites know to specifically look for -these- two guys?

Something is missing from the story IMHO.
96 posted on 10/24/2002 4:46:17 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy
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To: glock rocks
I agree it is fishy, but the article is a series of "six degrees of separation"-type of relationships. There is, to this point, no linkage of Muhammad to this camp. I wish there were an Al-Quaeda connection, but so far, it doesn't seem so. But, there are still plenty of loose ends.
98 posted on 10/24/2002 4:58:46 PM PDT by LS
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To: glock rocks
I read it, but maybe I'm dense. I still don't see the motivation of the police to release this wording at that time.
99 posted on 10/24/2002 4:59:19 PM PDT by LS
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To: Conservative_Dr.Pepper_Drinker
No kidding....back in the old days of FR...people would insert background music to a post and DRIVE the thread crazy...of course back then a 1000 post thread was on ONE page...not broken up in 100 post segments like today...so every time you would refresh the damn music would start...was known to send some posters over the edge! LOL the good old days when "closed" tags would terrorism a whole thread with bizarre formatting...LOL seems so long ago....
100 posted on 10/24/2002 5:01:56 PM PDT by antivenom
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