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Muslim arrested in Beltway case (John Muhammad)
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 24, 2002 | Art Moore

Posted on 10/24/2002 5:21:19 AM PDT by Michael2001

TACOMA, Wash. – Two men wanted for questioning in the D.C.-area sniper case were arrested early this morning at a rest stop near I-70 in the vicinity of Myersville, Md., about 45 miles northwest of the nation's capital, according to news reports.

John Allen Muhammad, 41, and stepson Lee Malvo, 17, were transported to Montgomery County, where the sniper task force is headquartered.

A rifle was found in Muhammad's car, reported WUSA-TV in Washington, D.C.

Neighbors who several years ago lived near Muhammad in Tacoma, Wash., described him last night as the head of a devout Muslim family who was prone to domestic violence, according to Seattle's KOMO-TV.

Federal sources said Muhammad and Malvo were known to speak sympathetically about the men who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, but the officials believe neither man to be associated with the al-Qaida terrorist network, the Seattle Times reported.

In connection with the sniper case, however, the FBI reportedly is searching "Camp Ground Zero USA" in Marion, Ala., a militant Islamic training camp with possible links to al-Qaida. Last night Fox News reported that FBI sources said "they are not at liberty to comment" and cannot confirm or deny their agents are investigating the camp.

WorldNetDaily reported two days after the D.C.-area shootings began Oct. 2 that FBI profilers believed the case fit no regular category and could find no motive other than terrorism. The shootings, which have caused an economic slowdown in the area, started four days after al-Qaida warned the U.S. that it would strike economic targets, WND reported last Thursday. A former CIA operative told WND in a story published Saturday, that the nature of the killings and Pentagon involvement in the probe support the terrorism theory.

In March 1999, Muhammad abducted his children and took them to the Caribbean after separating from his wife earlier that year, KOMO said. The children, a 12-year-old son and two younger daughters, now reportedly are in protective custody in Maryland.

As the focus of the Maryland-based sniper probe moved to the Pacific Northwest yesterday, task force head Charles Moose announced that Muhammad, also known as John Allen Williams, was being sought for information related to the case.

Moose told reporters last night that it should not be assumed that Muhammad "is involved in any of the shootings we are investigating," but is wanted for federal firearms violations and may have information material to the sniper probe.

Muhammad, described as about 6 feet 1 and 180 pounds, was believed to be traveling with a juvenile and considered "armed and dangerous," Moose said.

The Montgomery County, Md., police chief also gave a message to the sniper.

Moose said "our inability to talk has been a concern for us as well as for you," noting several attempts to establish a connection.

"You have indicated that you wanted us to do and say certain things," Moose said in his message to the sniper. "You asked us to say, 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose.' We understand that hearing us say this is important to you."

The solution, Moose said, "remains to call us and get a private toll free number established," or write to a post office box address.

The police chief's references apparently were related to a note found at the site of Saturday's shooting near Richmond, Va., and another at Tuesday's Montgomery County attack both of which included a demand for $10 million.

Seattle's KOMO radio reports that Muhammad is a veteran of the Persian Gulf War.

A former soldier who says he recognized Muhammad in a photo on TV news last night said he served with Muhammad in the Army.

Randy Lyons, of Bothell, Wash., told KING-TV that he knew Muhammad as an "outstanding soldier" who had a "very pretty wife and kids."

Authorities said they also were searching for Muhammad's stepson, John Lee Malvo, a citizen of Jamaica, according to CNN and Fox News.

Fox said the two men are linked to a blue or burgundy 1990 Chevy Caprice with New Jersey license NDA-21Z, which matched the car in which they were found asleep.

Fox News also reported that warrants related to the D.C. case issued yesterday in Montgomery, Ala.

A telephone call from the sniper alerted investigators to look into a Sept. 21 fatal shooting at a liquor store in Montgomery, according to the Seattle Times.

An official said a piece of paper found at the Alabama shooting scene was traced to Malvo, who then was linked to a Tacoma house where he had been living with Muhammad.

Muhammad was based at nearby Fort Lewis, Wash., in 1994-95 and lived in a Tacoma neighborhood where a backyard search for ballistic material was conducted yesterday, according to Peggy Bellows, an editor for the Tacoma News Tribune.

FBI agents also conducted a search yesterday in Bellingham, Wash., related to two persons of interest in the D.C. sniper case, at least one of whom is "not a U.S. national," according to the mayor of the city in northwestern Washington state.

Agents in Tacoma recovered two shell casings along with a tree stump with bullet holes in the backyard of a fourplex, said KOMO-TV in Seattle.

The material was to be transported by air to Washington, D.C., according to news reports.

Bellingham mayor Mark Asmundson told Seattle's KING-TV that his police department began cooperating yesterday morning with FBI agents interested in two men who were residents of the city, near the Canadian border, in the past year and a half.

One was a student at Bellingham High School and the other was an older man, according to Asmundson.

A KOMO-TV report later confirmed that the student was Malvo.

The two were most recently in Bellingham nine months ago, Asmundson said.

"Being near the border, we've had our share of unusual characters in Bellingham," Asmundson said.

In Tacoma, sources confirmed that the search there was related to the D.C. sniper case, according to KIRO-TV.

Fort Lewis spokesman Lt. Col. Joseph Piek said the FBI had asked for help from the base, KOMO-TV reported.

The backyard search was conducted by consent of the property owner, said FBI spokesperson Melissa Mallon on the scene late yesterday afternoon. Local television news reports said the owner is not a person of interest.

"There is no immediate danger for anybody in this neighborhood," Mallon said. "If there were, we would let people know."

Tacoma mayor Bill Baarsma said in an interview with KING-TV in Seattle that he was called out of a meeting at about 12:30 p.m. yesterday to be met by the FBI.

"It was a day of irony for me, because I was called out of a meeting about how to cope with a terrorist attack," he said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; alqaeda; blackmuslims; blackpanthers; jamaatalfuqra; newblackpanthers
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To: Jeff Head
I don't think I can listen to more....

FOX just said...

"Under arrest......a Gulf War veteran and a 17 year old kid".............

a Gulf War veteran being the first description of the guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21 posted on 10/24/2002 6:01:27 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Michael2001
FBI agents also conducted a search yesterday in Bellingham, Wash., related to two persons of interest in the D.C. sniper case, at least one of whom is "not a U.S. national," according to the mayor of the city in northwestern Washington state.

Haven't heard this tidbit on any of the news networks this morning. Although about the camp in AL - first of all, WND is the first I've heard it called a "terrorist training camp," however, this place trains people who come from something like 24 countries, and a while ago, Scotland Yard notified US authorities that Muslim extremists in England were connected to this camp so check it out. So I guess it might as well be called such! The owner of the camp so far emphatically denies that this guy John Mohammed ever trained there at all. All this per Fox News.

I want to know how this camp is allowed to operate this way in the first place - I have no problem with American citizens getting weapons training on American soil, but how is it justifiable/legal to commercially train foreigners in weapons use? And how many of these kinds of facilities are currently in operation in the US?

22 posted on 10/24/2002 6:02:09 AM PDT by agrace
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To: Jeff Head
BUMP!
23 posted on 10/24/2002 6:02:12 AM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: Sender
But FWIW, Ted Williams, former detective in DC, and black himself, directly confronted the issue of tunnel vision of profilers who said this was an angry white male when it ended up being a black man. I personally have always liked Williams. He's not afraid to speak his mind and what he has to say is usually worth listening to, unlike many "experts" they drag onto the set.
24 posted on 10/24/2002 6:02:46 AM PDT by twigs
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To: anniegetyourgun
Well they might as well come from Saudi Arabia for all I'm concerned. An American muslim who sympathizes with the attacks on 9/11 is just as much an enemy of America as the genuine article in my opinion.
25 posted on 10/24/2002 6:04:54 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Scarlet_Pimpernil
Marx?
26 posted on 10/24/2002 6:06:35 AM PDT by d101302
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To: Jeff Head
How many of those people exist do you suppose in this country? In Islam ... a lot ... and Islam isn't just "over there" anymore. There are millions in the pool here.

Time to clean out the pool.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

27 posted on 10/24/2002 6:08:23 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: SamAdams76
Of course these two are an enemy of the country. Anyone who would do this to our citizenry should be put to death. I'm not ready to kill off all others in this country who may have converted to Islam or are of Arabic extraction.
28 posted on 10/24/2002 6:08:27 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Yep, just what everyone wants it to be - two Islamic terrorists from Saudi Arabia who are a part of Al-Queda who are here on expired visas and received their training in Pakistan.

No it's much worse than that. These are Muslims, from the United States, who got their training in this country, and are citizens.(which seems to be a growing trend).

29 posted on 10/24/2002 6:08:33 AM PDT by porte des morts
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To: Michael2001
Michael12001, You said you are going to boycott everyone named "Muhammad".

Just minutes ago on FOXNews, I heard E.D. and Steve discuss the Michael's craft store link to the killings. According to them, the English version of Muhammad is Michael.

30 posted on 10/24/2002 6:09:46 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Guenevere
SpeakingOutOnIslam

I find this most interesting.

31 posted on 10/24/2002 6:09:51 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: Guenevere
a Gulf War veteran

It is time for vets to start howling like banshees again. The presstitutes keep forgetting that sliming the military is also very un-PC. This fact is in their talking points, but everytime someone fakes to the left they forget how to execute this move and go dump some mud on the military again. There are a whole lot more military and ex than their are these to be fawned over worshippers of the way of peace.

32 posted on 10/24/2002 6:10:39 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Sabertooth
Well, the son is reported to be a citizen of Jamaica, and the elder reported to be a security guard (I use that term loosely here) for the million man march.So some of the dots are there to connect.
33 posted on 10/24/2002 6:11:53 AM PDT by porte des morts
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To: porte des morts
A growing trend, or just something we are learning about now that Clinton and his appeasers are out of office?
35 posted on 10/24/2002 6:12:55 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: porte des morts
A growing trend, or just something we are learning about now that Clinton and his appeasers are out of office?
36 posted on 10/24/2002 6:12:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jeff Head
If Nation of Islam types and all other "bad" muslims are supporting this atrocity then I want Calypso Louies head on a pike along with those who support such.

And to all who think these two POS killers were "lashing out" against oppression or some BS idealism that validates shooting women and children and other non combatants need to be called, collected , prosecuted ,punished and if still alive after all of that .....deported..... as exactly what they really are...... Terrorist Trash .........

Stay Safe !

37 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:12 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Sabertooth
Good point. There may be some direct, or even indirect links established and verified.

But in my heart, it is pretty clear in any case based on the things I put in that post. If a person is Muslim, if they are radical (preaching like Farrakhan), if they aprrove of 911 .... then they are an Islamic terrorist waiting to happen IMHO.

That certainly doesn't mean that there are not others who are criminal and murderes. It certainly doesn't mean that there are not also very organized terror activites. But we may find that these are of the worse variety because they just "pop up" whenever these like minded people decide to cut loose.

I pray it doesn't go that way ... but we'd best be prepared.

38 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:20 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I sent fox & friends a link to a story that says:

"Leo Dudley, a former Marine who lived a block from Muhammad, said Muhammad helped provide security for Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan’s “Million Man March” in Washington, D.C."

They never reported the info about the Farrakhan connection.

39 posted on 10/24/2002 6:15:10 AM PDT by MissHardihood
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To: Guenevere
That is sickening. Why not:

"John Muhammed, a longtime convert to Islam, a follower of Louis Fara Khan and an individual who vocally apporved of 911"

That's what he is, and those are the relevant points. Their statement smears hundreds of thousands of honorable war veterans.

40 posted on 10/24/2002 6:16:19 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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