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Preparing for Jihad ...in Alabama
ABCnews.com ^ | 07/25/02 | Brian Ross

Posted on 10/24/2002 5:12:32 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo

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To: anniegetyourgun
He is neither. Just what everyone was expecting....a couple of angry black Jamaican guys!

It's early yet... as this investigation unfolds, keep an eye out for the word : "Jamaat," as in Jamaat al Fuqra, Jamaat al Islam, or Jamaat al Tabligh. They are front groups for elements within Pakistan's ISI that are shoulder to shoulder with the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Other camps like this have been linked to Pakistan, so we'll see. Check this out...

Amongst the alleged members of the TJ (Tablighi Jamaat) in the Muslim community in the US is Mr.Louis Fara Khan, the Black Muslim leader. The TJ operates in the US and the Caribbean directly through its own preachers deputed from Pakistan and also recruited from the Pakistani immigrant community in the US as well as through front organisations such as the Jamaat-ul-Fuqra founded in the 1980s under the leadership of Sheikh Mubarik Ali Gilani, who generally lives in Pakistan, but travels frequently to the US and the Caribbean.

The annual report on the Patterns of Global Terrorism during 1998 issued by the Counter-Terrorism Division of the US State Department states as follows of the Jamaat-ul-Fuqra: "Seeks to purify Islam through violence. Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practise their faith and insulate themselves from Western culture. Fuqra members have attacked a variety of targets that they view as enemies of Islam, including Muslims they regard as heretics and Hindus. Attacks during the 1980s included assassinations and fire bombings across the US. Fuqra members in the US have been convicted of criminal violations, including murder and fraud."
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21 posted on 10/24/2002 5:57:23 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Jerrybob
Alabama Jihadists...

Be Seein' Y'all

Chris

22 posted on 10/24/2002 5:58:21 AM PDT by section9
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To: OldFriend
Al Qaeda Camp in Oregon Check this out.
23 posted on 10/24/2002 5:58:47 AM PDT by 6ppc
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To: OldFriend
We have no evidence that they were trained by Al-Queda. Is he an anti-American enemy sypathizer? Sure, and it will be a great excuse/alibi for his robbery, extortion, fraud, and murder case. Does that mean all muslims are terrorists who are preparing action against the US? No.
24 posted on 10/24/2002 5:58:51 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Thane_Banquo
All the comments so far on the media mention it as a right wing militia camp. Just can't stop trying to get a white to be guilty of something can they?
25 posted on 10/24/2002 6:10:59 AM PDT by willyone
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To: Thane_Banquo
The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

This absolutely sickens me. Although I'm not sure which is worse - that they use our country to train for attacks on our country, or that they are bragging about it.

26 posted on 10/24/2002 6:11:59 AM PDT by agrace
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To: anniegetyourgun
Does that mean all muslims are terrorists who are preparing action against the US? No.

But it does support the reverse assertion -- that (virtually) all terrorists are Muslims.

27 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:38 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: anniegetyourgun
Hope I live to see the day when some prominent muslim stands up and condemns the violence against christians and jews here and abroad. Until then, I will assume that most if not all muslims are hatefilled.
28 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:39 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Thane_Banquo
British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws, sources told ABCNEWS.

Yeah, right. No agenda here.

Heck, Mexico has tougher gun laws than the U.S., but you could set up a freakin' artillery range there and all you'd have to do is lightly grease a few palms among the local constabulary. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more. Try doing that in the U.S.!

And Mexico is hardly the only country like that. What a load of crap!

29 posted on 10/24/2002 6:14:53 AM PDT by Imal
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To: anniegetyourgun
You sure like them Islamists don't you. You have no problem with jumping on whites though do you. You should get back over to DU where your buddies hang out.
30 posted on 10/24/2002 6:15:07 AM PDT by willyone
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To: Jonathon Spectre
British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws

The site, since taken down by British authorities, described what seemed to be the Alabama camp, including live-fire exercises at a state-of-the-art shooting range in the United States ? Something that would not be legal in Britain.

The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

What are they trying to say? Are they trying to tell us we support terrorism bacause our citizens have the right to bear arms? PING

32 posted on 10/24/2002 6:19:48 AM PDT by FLdeputy
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To: OldFriend
I see.
33 posted on 10/24/2002 6:22:28 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: OldFriend
just focused on the Camden, NJ connection.

First time I heard this. Any details, anyone?

34 posted on 10/24/2002 6:22:39 AM PDT by bankwalker
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To: Thane_Banquo
Assuming: it would make the message that he forced Moose to read last night ("We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose") sound even more like a call-to-action code phrase.
35 posted on 10/24/2002 6:24:00 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: martin gibson
A+ and a gold star

BFD. I get those at Ebay all the time. <|:)~

36 posted on 10/24/2002 6:25:42 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: anniegetyourgun
Just what everyone was expecting....a couple of angry black Jamaican guys!......???

LOL !........Stay Safe !

37 posted on 10/24/2002 6:27:17 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Thane_Banquo
The looming question for law enforcement is whether there is a connection between the camp and the al Qaeda terror network.

An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of the camp in Marion, Ala. The facility is called "Ground Zero USA."

Bullet-riddled police cars and a school bus with mannequin targets are scattered around the property.

I think all the proof that they are connected to AQ or some other ME terror group is in those sentences. I also think the schol bus directly links the camp to the sniper.

38 posted on 10/24/2002 6:30:35 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: anniegetyourgun
Hey Annie...why are you jumping to conclusions so fast? Have you interviewed the shooter and gone over the evidence? This guy is a Muslim convert who expressed sympathy for the 9-11 attack; this sounds like a regular criminal? Not to me...give it a few days before you make any final judgements.

As Bush 41 used to say..."Wouldn't be prudent..."

39 posted on 10/24/2002 6:32:31 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
I'm so glad you asked. Of course I haven't interviewed them....and neither has anyone else here who has concluded that this guy is an Islamic international terrorist.
40 posted on 10/24/2002 6:34:00 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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