Ask the Imam -- Is it OK to have SEX with my SLAVES?

Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com) ^ | Oct 22,2002 | The Imam

[JohnathanRGalt]

Arin whois for 63.175.194.25

OrgName:   infocom
OrgID:     INFOCO-8
Address:   630 International PKWY Suite 100
           Richarson TX 75081
TechName:  Elashi, bayan
TechPhone: +1-972-644-5363
TechEmail: bayan@infocomcorp.com

We do know that Hamas has controlling interest (of at least one) ISP in Texas.  

American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us. Steven Emerson, page 103

The FBI believes that Hamas has even gone so far as to set up a for-profit American corporation. On September 5, 2001, agents from the Joint Terrorism Task Force operating out of Dallas, Texas, executed a search warrent against InfoCom Corporation, and Internet service provider in Richardson Texas, for its ties to Hamas. Though the affadavit requesting approval for the search of InfoCom's offices remains classified, the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) notified InfoCom that two of its bank accounts, totaling $70,000, had been frozen due to a lump-sum investment of $250,000 provided to InfoCom in 1993 by Nadia Elashi Marzook, the wife of Musa abu Marzook (the "Head of the Political Bureau of Hamas" -- he directly provided the funds and ordered the killing of hundreds of Israelis). As a by-product of the search instituted against InfoCom, the Bureau of Export Administration had suspended InfoCom's export privileges based on suspicions that InfoCom had violated U.S. Export control laws by making shipments to Libya and Iran, two states listed as state sponsors of terrorism.

Furthermore, subpoenas were served on two of InfoCom's clients, the Islamic Association of Palestine and the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. Ghassan Dahduli, a former empolyee of InfoCom and an officer in the American Middle Eastern League for Palestine (AMELP) - a 501(c)(3) charity with direct links to the Islamic Association for Palestine - was taken into custody by federal authorites on September 22, 2001, after refusing to answer questions. Dahduli has aslo been implicated as an associate of one of the individuals who was convicted for a role in the August 1998 attacks on the United States embassies in Africa

[JohnathanRGalt]

Jehadi website ping: (let me know if you want on or off)

[wideawake]

Charming "religion".

[Bigg Red]

Holy moley! They are evil!

[MarineDad]

We ask Allaah to help us and you to be patient with regard to matters of our religion and to protect us from falling into evil.

Ah, seems like it's a teensy-weensy bit too late to worry about that happening...

[SJackson]

Thanks for the ping.

We just don't discuss treatment of our female slaves enough here on FR. Isn't the 12th century grand?

[AlaskaErik]

Hey Imam, when is it permissible to have intercourse with an animal? Which animals can be used for this purpose? Is there anything that needs to be done with the animal once the act has been completed? Yours in Allah

[knighthawk]

“Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you…..” Surah 4:24



Tafsir of Mawdudi, Book2, page 112, footnote 44:

“That is, ‘Those women, who became prisoners of war, while their husbands are left behind in the War Zone, are not unlawful because their marriage ties have been broken by the fact that they have come into the Islamic Zone. It is lawful to marry such women and make them wives, and it is also lawful for those, in whose possession they are, to have sexual relations with them.

There was, however, a difference of opinion as to whether such a woman is lawful if her husband has also been captured along with her. Imam Abu Hanifah and those of his way of thinking are of the opinion that the marriage tie of such a pair should remain intact but Imam Malik and Shafi’ee are of the opinion that it should be broken.’

As there exist many misunderstandings in the minds of people concerning the slave-girls taken as prisoners of war, the following should be carefully studied:

(1) It is not lawful for a soldier to have conjugal relations with a prisoner of war as soon as she falls into his hands. The Islamic Law requires that all such women should be handed over to the government, which has the right to set them free or to exchange them with the Muslim prisoners in the hands of the enemy or distribute them among the soldiers. It is lawful for a soldier to cohabit only with that woman who has been formally given to him by the Islamic government.

(2) Even then, he shall have to wait for one monthly course before he can cohabit with her in order to ensure whether she is pregnant or not; otherwise it shall be unlawful to cohabit with her before delivery.

(3) It does not matter whether the female prisoner of war belongs to the People of the Book or not. Whatever her religion, she becomes lawful for the man to whom she has been given.

(4) None but the one whom the slave-girl is given has the right to “touch her”. The offspring of such a woman from his seed shall be his lawful children and shall have the same legal rights as are given by the Divine Law to children from one’s loins. After the birth of a child she cannot be sold as a slave-girl and shall automatically become free after her master’s death.

(5) If the master marries his slave-girl with another man, he forfeits his conjugal rights over her, but retains other rights such as service from her.

(6) The maximum limit of four has not been prescribed for slave-girls as in the case of wives for the simple reason that the number of female prisoners of war is unpredictable. The lack of limit does by no means provide a license for the well-to-do people to buy any number of slave-girls for licentious purposes.

(7) The proprietary rights over a slave male or female as given to a person by the government are transferable like all other legal proprietary rights.

(8) The handing over of the proprietary rights over a slave-girl to a man formally by the government makes her as much lawful for him as the giving of a hand of a free woman to a man by her parents or guardian by means of nikah (marriage ceremony). Therefore there is no reason why a man who does not hold marriage in detestation should hold sexual intercourse with a slave-girl in detestation.

(9) When once the government hands over the female prisoner of war to someone, it has no right whatever to take her back from him, just as the parent or guardian has no right after the woman is handed over to a man through nikah.

(10) It should also be noted well that if a military commander temporarily distributes female prisoners of war among the soldiers for sexual purposes, or permits them to have sexual relations for the time being, such an act shall be unlawful and there is absolutely no difference between this and fornication, and fornication is a crime according to the Islamic code.”

http://www.islamexposed.com/Essays/slave_girls.htm

[KarlInOhio]

It is rare nowadays to find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. That is because most of the Muslims have long since given up the obligation of jihad for the sake of Allaah, in addition to their position of weakness and humiliation before their kaafir enemies,

War and taking slaves is part of the "obligation of jihad"? I thought I heard on the television that jihad just meant personal struggle and that we should not be worried about the members of the Religion of Peace®.

Kaafir enemies? I do believe that he's talking about us and Israel. Time to give them a little more of that humiliation and weakness.

[DallasMike]

Hey Imam, when is it permissible to have intercourse with an animal?

Why don't you write the Imam and ask? You might be rewarded with an answer!

[PaulJ]

And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out.”

Sheik, your booty!

[ReadMyMind]

Kill them! Kill them ALL!

[JohnathanRGalt]

"And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out."

Sheik, your booty!

Calling Mr. sheik yerbouty. . . .

[Pookie Me]

ONCE A MARINE, ALWAYS A MARINE...

Hey Imam, when is it permissible to have intercourse with an animal?

My guess is that it should still be alive..

Which animals can be used for this purpose?

Preferably ones without claws, teeth, etc. I think a Kodiak is right out.

Is there anything that needs to be done with the animal once the act has been completed?

Set up the grill?

Pookie & Me

[Looking for Diogenes]

Few years back, I needed a slave for comfort and support and to fulfill my jobs, I was able to pay the slave what they wanted and to comfort them too on their conditions. There was a Young Lady who agreed, on our conditions. My slave was only there when I needed her a bit like part employment she came over when I needed her and went away when not needed. We made a contract that she would serve me because she agreed and I agreed with my side. Hence, this young lady still lives in her parents home and is not marries she agreed I be her master so it gives me the rights to touch her and look at her.

She doesn't sound like a slave. She sounds like a paid part-time housekeeper and prostitute. I think this 'slave' business is just a weird loop-hole.

[crazykatz]

ROTFLMAO!!!

[JohnathanRGalt]

She doesn't sound like a slave. She sounds like a paid part-time housekeeper and prostitute. I think this 'slave' business is just a weird loop-hole.

Yep. the Imam clearly tells him that: "What you did with the servant woman is haraam and is not permissible." Apparently the only slaves allowed are those (men, women, and children) that may be taken in the wars that take place between Muslims and kaafirs and that Islam limited the sources of slaves ... to just one source, namely slavery resulting from capturing prisoners from among the kuffaar, including women and children.

Of course, with the Islimic initiated wars going on throughout the world there should be ample opportunity to take more slaves and find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. in the future.

[IronJack]

It is a wonder these people can even function in today's world. And it's no surprise that they have to isolate themselves culturally from Western thought. One glance at true freedom and it's discount time at the prayer rug outlet.

[mikeIII]

And these are not "fundamentalist" beliefs! It applies to all muslims, for all time!