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Ask the Imam -- Is it OK to have SEX with my SLAVES?
Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com) ^ | Oct 22,2002 | The Imam

Posted on 10/22/2002 2:12:37 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt

Ask the Imam -- Is it OK to have SEX with my SLAVES? -- Can the master and slave have bodily contact and to what extent?

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Question #26067: He hired a woman to serve him then he agreed with her that she would be his slave




Question:

Few years back, I needed a slave for comfort and support and to fulfill my jobs, I was able to pay the slave what they wanted and to comfort them too on their conditions. There was a Young Lady who agreed, on our conditions. My slave was only there when I needed her a bit like part employment she came over when I needed her and went away when not needed. We made a contract that she would serve me because she agreed and I agreed with my side.

Hence, this young lady still lives in her parents home and is not marries she agreed I be her master so it gives me the rights to touch her and look at her. We spent a lot of time together and I freed her from the contracts then got married together.

The point is that we get slaves from war time, but when will that come? Here she had agreed. And look after with the same standard of mine

Is there any haram element in this situation because the master only touched someone he owned, so this cannot be zinna.

-I would like to know the equities of slaves too
-How to you own a slave and what is the sharee condition?
-Can the master and slave have bodily contact and to what extent?
-Is there an age difference limit, i.e. they both can’t be same age?
-Can this kept secret or does everyone HAVE TO know?
-What is the minimum age the master and slave can be?
-IS SLAVES ARE ONLY AVAILABLE AT WAR-TIME, , IS THERE ANOTHER WAS OF OWNING A SLAVE?

Is it true our prophet (pbuh) owned many slaves, and called one ship?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.  

Some of the questions are repeated and interconnected. We will answer them all – in sha Allaah – in the following points. 

Firstly: 

What you did with the servant woman is haraam and is not permissible. A servant woman is not a slave woman whom it is permissible to touch and have intercourse with. A servant woman is free and is not permissible for you except through marriage, which is what you did, but unfortunately you did it late. 

The contract that existed between you and the servant woman was a contract of employment, which was to serve you in your house. It was not a contract that permitted you to have intercourse with her. You say that she agreed that you would be her master and she let you touch her and look at her, and that you freed her from the contract, but this has no basis of validity in sharee’ah in the sense that you refer to. A free woman cannot become a slave unless she is a kaafir woman from a state that is at war with the Muslims and the Muslims have captured her. This does not apply in the case which you are asking about. 

Secondly: 

Slaves (men and women) may be taken in the wars that take place between Muslims and kaafirs, not in wars that are fought amongst the Muslims at times of tribulation. 

Islam limited the sources of slaves which existed before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to just one source, namely slavery resulting from capturing prisoners from among the kuffaar, including women and children. 

Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The reason why a person may be taken as a slave is his being a kaafir and waging war against Allaah and His Messenger. If Allaah enables the Muslims who are striving and sacrificing their lives and their wealth and all that Allaah has given them to make the word of Allaah supreme over the kaafirs, then He allows them to enslave the kuffaar when they capture them, unless the ruler chooses to free them or to ransom them, if that serves the interests of the Muslims. 

Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 3/387 

Thirdly: 

The mujaahideen take possession of slave women as they take possession of the spoils of war. It is permissible for the one who gains possession of male or female slaves to sell them. In both cases – owning a slave through battle or through purchase – it is not permissible for a man to have intercourse with a slave woman until after she has had one menstrual cycle from which it may be established that she is not pregnant. If she is pregnant, then he must wait until she has given birth. 

It was narrated that Ruwayfi’ ibn Thaabit al-Ansaari said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say on the day of Hunayn: “It is not permissible for any man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to irrigate the crop of another else – meaning to have intercourse with a woman who is pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to have intercourse with a captured woman until he has established that she is not pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out.” 

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2158; classed as hasan by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 1890. 

Fourthly: 

It is permissible for there to be a physical relationship between a man and his female slave just as there is between a man and his wife, unless he marries her off  to someone else, in which case it is not permissible for him to have intercourse with her because it is not permissible for a woman to be in an intimate relationship with two men at the same time. 

Fifthly: 

There are no limits with regard to the age difference between a man and his female slave, apart from the fact that it is not permissible for him to have intercourse with her until after she has become able for that. 

Sixthly: 

The relationship between a man and his female slave should be announced publicly and not kept secret. That is because there are rulings that stem from this announcement, such as if they have children, and so as to ward off any suspicions that people who see them together may have concerning him and her. 

Seventhly: 

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) owned some male and female slaves, among whom were the following: 

Ibn al-Qayyim said: 

Zayd ibn Haarithah ibn Shuraaheel, the beloved of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He freed him and arranged his marriage to his freed slave woman Umm Ayman, and she bore him Usaamah. His other slaves include Aslam, Abu Raafi’, Thawbaan, Abu Kabshah Sulaym, Shaqraan (whose name was Saalih), Rabaah (who was Nubian), Yassaar (who was also Nubian and was killed by the ‘Arniyeen); Mid’am and Kirkirah (another Nubian) – these two were killed at Khaybar. They also included Anjashah al-Haadi and Safeenah ibn Farookh, whose real name was Mihraan, but the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) called him Safeenah (= “ship”) because they used to make him carry their luggage when they traveled, so he said, “You are a ship (anta safeenah).” Abu Haatim said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) freed him; someone else said that Umm Salamah freed him. The Prophet’s slaves also included Anasah, whose nickname was Abu Mashrah; Aflah; ‘Ubayd; Tahmaan – also known as Keesaan; Dhakwaan; Mihraan; Marwaan – although it was said that this was another name of Tahmaan, and Allaah knows best; Hunayn; Sandar; Fudaalah (who was Yemeni); Maaboor (who was a eunuch); Waaqid; Abu Waaqid; Qassaam; Abu ‘Usayb and Abu Muwayhabah.  

His female slaves included: Salma (Umm Raafi’); Maymoonah bint Sa’d; Khadrah; Radwa; Razeenah; Umm Dameerah; Maymoonah bint Abi ‘Usayb; Maariyah and Rayhaanah. 

Zaad al-Ma’aad, 1/114-116 

Eighthly: 

It is rare nowadays to find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. That is because most of the Muslims have long since given up the obligation of jihad for the sake of Allaah, in addition to their position of weakness and humiliation before their kaafir enemies, so that many of the majority-Muslim nations have signed the protocol that expressly forbids slavery and strives to put an end to it, which was agreed upon in the United Nations in 1953. 

Based on that we must be very careful in examining any case where people are bought and sold as slaves, and we must also beware of the misinterpretation of the word amah (pl. imaa’) (= slave woman) which some new Muslims understand to mean that enslavement takes place simply by paying the woman some money and agreeing to have intercourse with her. This is like prostitution which is now widespread in some immoral places, night clubs and telephone sex services. 

We ask Allaah to help us and you to be patient with regard to matters of our religion and to protect us from falling into evil. 

And Allaah knows best.


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1 posted on 10/22/2002 2:12:37 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: *JIHAD IN AMERICA; Apple Pan Dowdy; Heartlander2; dennisw; tutstar; tomahawk; crazykatz; Cindy; ...

Jehadi website ping: (let me know if you want on or off)

2 posted on 10/22/2002 2:15:14 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Charming "religion".
3 posted on 10/22/2002 2:18:16 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Holy moley! They are evil!
4 posted on 10/22/2002 2:26:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: JohnathanRGalt
We ask Allaah to help us and you to be patient with regard to matters of our religion and to protect us from falling into evil.

Ah, seems like it's a teensy-weensy bit too late to worry about that happening...

5 posted on 10/22/2002 2:32:36 PM PDT by MarineDad
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Thanks for the ping.

We just don't discuss treatment of our female slaves enough here on FR. Isn't the 12th century grand?

6 posted on 10/22/2002 2:39:07 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Hey Imam, when is it permissible to have intercourse with an animal? Which animals can be used for this purpose? Is there anything that needs to be done with the animal once the act has been completed? Yours in Allah
7 posted on 10/22/2002 2:42:46 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: JohnathanRGalt
“Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you…..” Surah 4:24



Tafsir of Mawdudi, Book2, page 112, footnote 44:

“That is, ‘Those women, who became prisoners of war, while their husbands are left behind in the War Zone, are not unlawful because their marriage ties have been broken by the fact that they have come into the Islamic Zone. It is lawful to marry such women and make them wives, and it is also lawful for those, in whose possession they are, to have sexual relations with them.

There was, however, a difference of opinion as to whether such a woman is lawful if her husband has also been captured along with her. Imam Abu Hanifah and those of his way of thinking are of the opinion that the marriage tie of such a pair should remain intact but Imam Malik and Shafi’ee are of the opinion that it should be broken.’

As there exist many misunderstandings in the minds of people concerning the slave-girls taken as prisoners of war, the following should be carefully studied:

(1) It is not lawful for a soldier to have conjugal relations with a prisoner of war as soon as she falls into his hands. The Islamic Law requires that all such women should be handed over to the government, which has the right to set them free or to exchange them with the Muslim prisoners in the hands of the enemy or distribute them among the soldiers. It is lawful for a soldier to cohabit only with that woman who has been formally given to him by the Islamic government.

(2) Even then, he shall have to wait for one monthly course before he can cohabit with her in order to ensure whether she is pregnant or not; otherwise it shall be unlawful to cohabit with her before delivery.

(3) It does not matter whether the female prisoner of war belongs to the People of the Book or not. Whatever her religion, she becomes lawful for the man to whom she has been given.

(4) None but the one whom the slave-girl is given has the right to “touch her”. The offspring of such a woman from his seed shall be his lawful children and shall have the same legal rights as are given by the Divine Law to children from one’s loins. After the birth of a child she cannot be sold as a slave-girl and shall automatically become free after her master’s death.

(5) If the master marries his slave-girl with another man, he forfeits his conjugal rights over her, but retains other rights such as service from her.

(6) The maximum limit of four has not been prescribed for slave-girls as in the case of wives for the simple reason that the number of female prisoners of war is unpredictable. The lack of limit does by no means provide a license for the well-to-do people to buy any number of slave-girls for licentious purposes.

(7) The proprietary rights over a slave male or female as given to a person by the government are transferable like all other legal proprietary rights.

(8) The handing over of the proprietary rights over a slave-girl to a man formally by the government makes her as much lawful for him as the giving of a hand of a free woman to a man by her parents or guardian by means of nikah (marriage ceremony). Therefore there is no reason why a man who does not hold marriage in detestation should hold sexual intercourse with a slave-girl in detestation.

(9) When once the government hands over the female prisoner of war to someone, it has no right whatever to take her back from him, just as the parent or guardian has no right after the woman is handed over to a man through nikah.

(10) It should also be noted well that if a military commander temporarily distributes female prisoners of war among the soldiers for sexual purposes, or permits them to have sexual relations for the time being, such an act shall be unlawful and there is absolutely no difference between this and fornication, and fornication is a crime according to the Islamic code.”

http://www.islamexposed.com/Essays/slave_girls.htm
8 posted on 10/22/2002 2:45:47 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: JohnathanRGalt
It is rare nowadays to find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. That is because most of the Muslims have long since given up the obligation of jihad for the sake of Allaah, in addition to their position of weakness and humiliation before their kaafir enemies,

War and taking slaves is part of the "obligation of jihad"? I thought I heard on the television that jihad just meant personal struggle and that we should not be worried about the members of the Religion of Peace®.

Kaafir enemies? I do believe that he's talking about us and Israel. Time to give them a little more of that humiliation and weakness.

9 posted on 10/22/2002 2:46:21 PM PDT by KarlInOhio
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To: AlaskaErik
Hey Imam, when is it permissible to have intercourse with an animal?

Why don't you write the Imam and ask? You might be rewarded with an answer!

10 posted on 10/22/2002 2:48:43 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: JohnathanRGalt
And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out.”

Sheik, your booty!

11 posted on 10/22/2002 2:52:52 PM PDT by PaulJ
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To: Bigg Red
Kill them! Kill them ALL!
12 posted on 10/22/2002 3:17:01 PM PDT by ReadMyMind
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To: PaulJ; sheik yerbouty
"And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out."

Sheik, your booty!

Calling Mr. sheik yerbouty. . . .

13 posted on 10/22/2002 3:21:58 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: AlaskaErik
ONCE A MARINE, ALWAYS A MARINE...

Hey Imam, when is it permissible to have intercourse with an animal?

My guess is that it should still be alive..

Which animals can be used for this purpose?

Preferably ones without claws, teeth, etc. I think a Kodiak is right out.

Is there anything that needs to be done with the animal once the act has been completed?

Set up the grill?

Pookie & Me

14 posted on 10/22/2002 3:30:43 PM PDT by Pookie Me
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Few years back, I needed a slave for comfort and support and to fulfill my jobs, I was able to pay the slave what they wanted and to comfort them too on their conditions. There was a Young Lady who agreed, on our conditions. My slave was only there when I needed her a bit like part employment she came over when I needed her and went away when not needed. We made a contract that she would serve me because she agreed and I agreed with my side. Hence, this young lady still lives in her parents home and is not marries she agreed I be her master so it gives me the rights to touch her and look at her.
She doesn't sound like a slave. She sounds like a paid part-time housekeeper and prostitute. I think this 'slave' business is just a weird loop-hole.
16 posted on 10/22/2002 3:48:22 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: PaulJ
ROTFLMAO!!!
17 posted on 10/22/2002 4:17:35 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Looking for Diogenes
She doesn't sound like a slave. She sounds like a paid part-time housekeeper and prostitute. I think this 'slave' business is just a weird loop-hole.

Yep. the Imam clearly tells him that: "What you did with the servant woman is haraam and is not permissible." Apparently the only slaves allowed are those (men, women, and children) that may be taken in the wars that take place between Muslims and kaafirs and that Islam limited the sources of slaves ... to just one source, namely slavery resulting from capturing prisoners from among the kuffaar, including women and children.

Of course, with the Islimic initiated wars going on throughout the world there should be ample opportunity to take more slaves and find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. in the future.

18 posted on 10/22/2002 4:19:38 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
It is a wonder these people can even function in today's world. And it's no surprise that they have to isolate themselves culturally from Western thought. One glance at true freedom and it's discount time at the prayer rug outlet.
19 posted on 10/22/2002 4:22:41 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: wideawake
And these are not "fundamentalist" beliefs! It applies to all muslims, for all time!
20 posted on 10/22/2002 4:23:00 PM PDT by mikeIII
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