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Ask the Imam -- Is it OK to have SEX with my SLAVES?
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Posted on 10/22/2002 2:12:37 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt

Ask the Imam -- Is it OK to have SEX with my SLAVES? -- Can the master and slave have bodily contact and to what extent?

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Question #26067: He hired a woman to serve him then he agreed with her that she would be his slave




Question:

Few years back, I needed a slave for comfort and support and to fulfill my jobs, I was able to pay the slave what they wanted and to comfort them too on their conditions. There was a Young Lady who agreed, on our conditions. My slave was only there when I needed her a bit like part employment she came over when I needed her and went away when not needed. We made a contract that she would serve me because she agreed and I agreed with my side.

Hence, this young lady still lives in her parents home and is not marries she agreed I be her master so it gives me the rights to touch her and look at her. We spent a lot of time together and I freed her from the contracts then got married together.

The point is that we get slaves from war time, but when will that come? Here she had agreed. And look after with the same standard of mine

Is there any haram element in this situation because the master only touched someone he owned, so this cannot be zinna.

-I would like to know the equities of slaves too
-How to you own a slave and what is the sharee condition?
-Can the master and slave have bodily contact and to what extent?
-Is there an age difference limit, i.e. they both can’t be same age?
-Can this kept secret or does everyone HAVE TO know?
-What is the minimum age the master and slave can be?
-IS SLAVES ARE ONLY AVAILABLE AT WAR-TIME, , IS THERE ANOTHER WAS OF OWNING A SLAVE?

Is it true our prophet (pbuh) owned many slaves, and called one ship?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.  

Some of the questions are repeated and interconnected. We will answer them all – in sha Allaah – in the following points. 

Firstly: 

What you did with the servant woman is haraam and is not permissible. A servant woman is not a slave woman whom it is permissible to touch and have intercourse with. A servant woman is free and is not permissible for you except through marriage, which is what you did, but unfortunately you did it late. 

The contract that existed between you and the servant woman was a contract of employment, which was to serve you in your house. It was not a contract that permitted you to have intercourse with her. You say that she agreed that you would be her master and she let you touch her and look at her, and that you freed her from the contract, but this has no basis of validity in sharee’ah in the sense that you refer to. A free woman cannot become a slave unless she is a kaafir woman from a state that is at war with the Muslims and the Muslims have captured her. This does not apply in the case which you are asking about. 

Secondly: 

Slaves (men and women) may be taken in the wars that take place between Muslims and kaafirs, not in wars that are fought amongst the Muslims at times of tribulation. 

Islam limited the sources of slaves which existed before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to just one source, namely slavery resulting from capturing prisoners from among the kuffaar, including women and children. 

Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The reason why a person may be taken as a slave is his being a kaafir and waging war against Allaah and His Messenger. If Allaah enables the Muslims who are striving and sacrificing their lives and their wealth and all that Allaah has given them to make the word of Allaah supreme over the kaafirs, then He allows them to enslave the kuffaar when they capture them, unless the ruler chooses to free them or to ransom them, if that serves the interests of the Muslims. 

Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 3/387 

Thirdly: 

The mujaahideen take possession of slave women as they take possession of the spoils of war. It is permissible for the one who gains possession of male or female slaves to sell them. In both cases – owning a slave through battle or through purchase – it is not permissible for a man to have intercourse with a slave woman until after she has had one menstrual cycle from which it may be established that she is not pregnant. If she is pregnant, then he must wait until she has given birth. 

It was narrated that Ruwayfi’ ibn Thaabit al-Ansaari said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say on the day of Hunayn: “It is not permissible for any man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to irrigate the crop of another else – meaning to have intercourse with a woman who is pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to have intercourse with a captured woman until he has established that she is not pregnant. And it is not permissible for a man who believes in Allaah and the Last Day to sell any booty until it has been shared out.” 

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2158; classed as hasan by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 1890. 

Fourthly: 

It is permissible for there to be a physical relationship between a man and his female slave just as there is between a man and his wife, unless he marries her off  to someone else, in which case it is not permissible for him to have intercourse with her because it is not permissible for a woman to be in an intimate relationship with two men at the same time. 

Fifthly: 

There are no limits with regard to the age difference between a man and his female slave, apart from the fact that it is not permissible for him to have intercourse with her until after she has become able for that. 

Sixthly: 

The relationship between a man and his female slave should be announced publicly and not kept secret. That is because there are rulings that stem from this announcement, such as if they have children, and so as to ward off any suspicions that people who see them together may have concerning him and her. 

Seventhly: 

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) owned some male and female slaves, among whom were the following: 

Ibn al-Qayyim said: 

Zayd ibn Haarithah ibn Shuraaheel, the beloved of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). He freed him and arranged his marriage to his freed slave woman Umm Ayman, and she bore him Usaamah. His other slaves include Aslam, Abu Raafi’, Thawbaan, Abu Kabshah Sulaym, Shaqraan (whose name was Saalih), Rabaah (who was Nubian), Yassaar (who was also Nubian and was killed by the ‘Arniyeen); Mid’am and Kirkirah (another Nubian) – these two were killed at Khaybar. They also included Anjashah al-Haadi and Safeenah ibn Farookh, whose real name was Mihraan, but the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) called him Safeenah (= “ship”) because they used to make him carry their luggage when they traveled, so he said, “You are a ship (anta safeenah).” Abu Haatim said that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) freed him; someone else said that Umm Salamah freed him. The Prophet’s slaves also included Anasah, whose nickname was Abu Mashrah; Aflah; ‘Ubayd; Tahmaan – also known as Keesaan; Dhakwaan; Mihraan; Marwaan – although it was said that this was another name of Tahmaan, and Allaah knows best; Hunayn; Sandar; Fudaalah (who was Yemeni); Maaboor (who was a eunuch); Waaqid; Abu Waaqid; Qassaam; Abu ‘Usayb and Abu Muwayhabah.  

His female slaves included: Salma (Umm Raafi’); Maymoonah bint Sa’d; Khadrah; Radwa; Razeenah; Umm Dameerah; Maymoonah bint Abi ‘Usayb; Maariyah and Rayhaanah. 

Zaad al-Ma’aad, 1/114-116 

Eighthly: 

It is rare nowadays to find slaves in the shar’i sense in which it is permissible to be intimate with them etc. That is because most of the Muslims have long since given up the obligation of jihad for the sake of Allaah, in addition to their position of weakness and humiliation before their kaafir enemies, so that many of the majority-Muslim nations have signed the protocol that expressly forbids slavery and strives to put an end to it, which was agreed upon in the United Nations in 1953. 

Based on that we must be very careful in examining any case where people are bought and sold as slaves, and we must also beware of the misinterpretation of the word amah (pl. imaa’) (= slave woman) which some new Muslims understand to mean that enslavement takes place simply by paying the woman some money and agreeing to have intercourse with her. This is like prostitution which is now widespread in some immoral places, night clubs and telephone sex services. 

We ask Allaah to help us and you to be patient with regard to matters of our religion and to protect us from falling into evil. 

And Allaah knows best.


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To: Sungirl; shaggy eel
shaggy just wanted to see if you were still around.
61 posted on 10/23/2002 9:29:40 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: aruanan
They don't seem to have a problem with taking slaves from southern Sudan and doing whatever they want to them.

And those slaves are probably Christians.

62 posted on 10/23/2002 10:51:27 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: isthisnickcool
Check out this site.

deceased left TV... Ref: Q# 6695 you said that it is not permissible to sell the TV left by deceased, then what is supposed be done with it?

Ref: Q# 6695 you said that it is not permissible to sell the TV left by deceased, then what is supposed be done with it? a) can it be sold to kaafirs? will the money by HALAL b) can it be sold to Kaafirs and the money used as charity c) or use the money with the intention of reward d) it is stated on albalagh that it is permissible to sell TVs to anyone?? e) or the TV is supposed to be destroyed (what if the HEIRS object to this and only one or two heirs are willing to destroy it..what is to be done then?) f) WILL all heirs be sinful if the TV is still used?

Answer 6997

2002-10-23

In principle, it is not permissible to be of any assistance to Haraam.

Therefore, it is not permissible to buy, sell, hire, gift or keep a television. The television will have to be destroyed. (Ahsanul Fataawa vol.8 pg.306)

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai



So, what happens if the owner of the slave dies?  Will the slave have to be destroyed because he/she was his possession? We need a ruling from the Imam pronto!!!
63 posted on 10/23/2002 11:01:36 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: Sungirl
,,, I have a buyer here who wants to look you over. 28 posted on 10/22/02 10:01 PM Eastern by shaggy eel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi...what is this supposed to mean?

,,, the animal cruelty/hunting threads have been hell for you. I thought we'd take a little time out from them and get onto something a bit more cerebral, just to see if I can sound you out on a totally disassociated issue. I hate being right all the time. If we take animal rights out of it, there's less chance of you designing your own crisis. Let's talk slavery. Contrary to the spirit of this thread, it's best that I point out this is a suggestion, not a command. [LOL!]

64 posted on 10/23/2002 12:47:48 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Contrary to the spirit of this thread, it's best that I point out this is a suggestion, not a command. [LOL!]

Now now, give her a few more days to recuperate from the flame wars. :-)

65 posted on 10/23/2002 12:56:07 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: JohnathanRGalt
They are nuttier than fruitcakes or Democrats.....
66 posted on 10/23/2002 1:23:46 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: JohnathanRGalt
This explains Bert's domination of Ernie ;-)
67 posted on 10/23/2002 1:37:46 PM PDT by amused
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To: shaggy eel
Excellent observation ! And rather kind of you to take an interest . Sometimes I do wonder about people who seem to have the capacity to focus on 1 thing at a time , especially when they appear to be stuck on the same issue year after year .

Mr. Galt .. This 1 I'll keep Sir . Much obliged .

68 posted on 10/23/2002 1:39:29 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: dorben; Terriergal
,,, thank you. The continual antagonism on the animal rights threads is past becoming predictable. This thread would have given my addressee a chance to participate in dialogue removed from that subject. I thought I'd try this as an experiment because my wife made the observation that the continual adherence/victim theme played out on animal rights threads was an attention grab, perpetuating the addressee's place as "victim". I'll assume Sungirl's no-show on this thread will prove my wife correct.
69 posted on 10/23/2002 1:48:59 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
I do believe you married peer and above my friend . I'd have to freepmail you what mine says after reading from her . It really is to bad because people are interesting indeed .

Nonetheless .. She had her chance today and perhaps there might be other opportunities in the future .

70 posted on 10/23/2002 1:56:58 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Sungirl
Go away!
71 posted on 10/23/2002 6:34:28 PM PDT by smoking camels
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To: smoking camels
I think we all get the message. You can stop posting this on every thread now.
72 posted on 10/23/2002 8:09:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: weegee
True. That is exactly my point. Many Christians (at least in this country) thought slaveholding was acceptable 200 years ago, while today few if any do. I wonder if there have been any similar changes in Islam over the last few hundred years.
73 posted on 10/23/2002 8:48:12 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: wideawake
Here's an similar site, only this one is 'Ask the Rabbi':

Mordechai Torczyner's WebShas - Index to the Talmud: Mealtime Issues: Bathroom Issues (You can also type 'slave' into their search engine to get an index of the many places in the Talmud which regulate master-slave relations.)

Sure enough, there is plenty to legislate about bathroom behavior, including a prohibition on wiping oneself an even number of times (the practice is evocative of magic).

On the other hand, a search in Google for 'prayer bathroom' reveals several Christian sites which recommend taping prayers to the bathroom mirror for regular recitation, or going into a bathroom for privacy to pray. I'm not sure which is weirder....

74 posted on 10/23/2002 9:05:00 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: shaggy eel; dorben
Well, maybe she's just not interested in human rights issues.
75 posted on 10/23/2002 9:07:03 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: JohnathanRGalt
I can't answer your question but here is an instance where the Imam has gone away from discussing the koran and lashes out at Western culture through the tradition of birthdays!

http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6025

what importance does birthdays have in Islam?And how do we celebrate?

As Salaam Alai Kum, Respected Mufti Saheb, I heard that Islam does not permit us to celebrate birthdays.So one of my cousin doesn't celebrate his birthday or his wife's birthday or his only two year old daughter's birthday and when I wish him on the respective days,he tells me that Islam do not want us to celebrate birthdays and he gives me a lecture about it and tells me that it is a westernized culture or a worldly thing.But when I told one my friend about it she told me that,wishing is not prohibited in Islam neither does Islam say not to wish anyone on their happy day(birthday,wedding anniversary),she said there is nothing wrong in wishing and no where in Islam it says not to wish people.I have a question that is it in Islam to celebrate birthdays and if not can we just wish atleast.I am confused and want to know what does Islam according to Quran and Hadith say about birthdays.Can you please provide me with any authentic support if there is any from Quran or Hadith.May Allah reward you for this,Jazakhalla khairun.Wasalaam Alai Kum.

Answer 6025

CELEBRATING BIRTHDAYS

It is not necessary that everything the West does is according to logic. The biggest proof that it is the invention of the west are the song words without which this function is not complete viz. 'Happy birthday to you.' No
one says, 'Happy birthday celebration' or 'Happy Blessed birthday' or any other words of this kind. This disease of celebrating birthdays was never prevalent among Muslims before, but since Muslims started living alongside
the non-Muslims, they have been influenced by them. Birthdays are celebrated usually at the end of a year and not at the beginning of the year. For example, if one's birth date is on the 1st of January, then the birthday
will be celebrated on the 1st of January and not the 2nd of January. Now just ponder, what intelligence is there in celebrating and showing happiness
when a year has decreased in one's life.

During a birthday celebration, candles are lit on a cake, amounting to the years of the one's life. He extinguishes these candles by blowing them out and all present clap their hands. Hands are clapped at two occasions only,
one at the time of joy for some achievement of his. Secondly, when someone acts foolishly, then to mock at him. Here a person is extinguishing the rays of the years of his life by blowing them out himself. Then this is no happiness, nor is it any achievement. So the clapping of hands is only for mocking at this person's stupidity. Ponder that this is a custom and sign of non-believers. When it is someone's birthday, one year of his life has
decreased, and not increased.

This world is a field to work for the hereafter. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu æ#129;layhi Wasallam)'s Ummah has been sent in this world for a very great object. The example of this world is like a king who send a few people into
his treasure room saying that shortly he will send them out, so at that time whatever they will be possessing will be their property. Inside the treasure room, on one side there are heaps of gold and silver, on another side are
lying pearls and jewels, then at another place in the room, delicious food and soft beds are arranged. Now some people think that the king may send them out any minute. They quickly gather the gold, silver, pearls and gems.
They feel they will go out from there and organise the food and beds for themselves afterwards. There is another group of people who think that they have just arrived. They feel, 'Let us enjoy the food, then lay down to rest.
After that we will take from the treasures. There is ample time.' So they eat, sleep and pass their valuable time without taking from the treasures. Suddenly the king sends everyone out. Now those who had collected the valuables can enjoy their lives eating and sleeping while those that wasted their time and did not accumulate anything will begin to regret. Every moment of this worldly life is very valuable. Here we have to earn for the long and everlasting life of the hereafter. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu æ#129;layhi Wasallam) has said that after entering into Jannat, the people of Jannat will not be sorry about anything of this world, except for that moment which was spent without the remembrance of Allah. It is apparent that when reward will be granted for remembrance of Allah in this world which is
an abode of actions, then one must surely feel very regretful, that if they should have spent more time in the remembrance of Allah, they could be worthy of more rewards.

Hafiz Zain Siqti asked Hafiz Jurjani the reason for swallowing dry flour to which he replied that when he compared the time of swallowing dry flour and chewing roti then, in chewing so much time is spent in which say 70 times Subhanalla can be uttered. Therefore he left eating roti for the last 40 years.

How can it be permissible to waste time by celebrating birthdays and becoming happy that a big slice of one's life is put behind. This world is a prison for the believer and a Jannat for the disbeliever. Allah has bought the life and wealth of the believers for Jannat. This life is a trust of
Allah by us. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu æ#129;layhi Wasallam) said, 'A person will not be able to move from his place, until he does not reply to five questions:

* How did you spend your life?
* How did you spend your youth?
* Where did you earn your wealth from?
* Where did you spend your wealth?
* How much did you act upon your knowledge?

A person who is concerned of replying to these questions, how can he show happiness upon the years of his life decreasing? Besides all this, Islam does not permit waste. This is the reason that the poor of this Ummat will enter Jannat 500 years before the wealthy, because the wealthy will be delayed by giving an account of their wealth. By spending on birthday parties, there is no benefit to Islam nor to the poor. It is stated in a Hadith the worst Walima feast is the one in which the poor and destitute are
left out and the wealthy are only invited. Another object of the birthday parties is show. Islam encourages simplicity. By this attitude of show, the poor feel inferior and deprived and the rich have a superiority complex.
Also, in these gatherings, music, singing, video filming and the taking of photographs and other un-Islamic and forbidden acts take place. May Allah Taãla guide us and protect us from all these evils.

By Moulana Abdul Hamid Ishaq
Principal - Madrasah Arabia Islamia, Azaadville
Edited


76 posted on 10/23/2002 11:52:31 PM PDT by weegee
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To: isthisnickcool
Does gravity exist or is it made up?

Answer 34

We do not understand your question as everything existing is made up.

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

77 posted on 10/23/2002 11:54:41 PM PDT by weegee
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Yo! Allah! Piss be upon you. ASAP.
78 posted on 10/24/2002 12:15:39 AM PDT by Hank Rearden
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Un freaking believable.
79 posted on 10/24/2002 12:28:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Well, I sometims tape reminders to my bathroom mirror at night so I won't forget stuff the next morning. I've never prayed at my sink, though.
80 posted on 10/24/2002 4:30:51 AM PDT by wideawake
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