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Fox News Alert. Montgomery County ANOTHER SHOOTING!!!
Fox News | 10/22/02

Posted on 10/22/2002 3:17:53 AM PDT by areafiftyone

JUST BREAKING!!! Police confirm another shooting. But are not sure if it is related.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
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To: Smogger
all the grabs you is the attitude and demeanor of the task force spokesman, whether he is a beneficiary of affirmative action or if he's PC

No, that not all that grabs me, not by a long shot. What grabs me is that the media and the public are being led around by the nose, with press conferences carefully delayed to build up suspense, with Q&A sessions that are meaningless and absurd, because their are plenty of questions, and no answers, and that so many people, including the media, are buying the BS, while people are dying and others live in fear.

Meanwhile the media and the public, who, if used correctly, can be tremendous sources of info and support, are continually being held at bay -- with Moose speeches condemning the media early on, the much-publicized arrests and prosecution of witnesses (great way to encourage people to come forward), and the lack of public outcry when people are dragged from their vehicles and handcuffed for the crime of driving a white van, which may or may not be connected, by LE's own admission. (At least that particular tactic wasn't used this morning...).

Fear can be constructive, when it makes you more alert to your surroundings. It is also destructive, when it makes you accept tactics, including suppression of information and strong-arm tactics that would not otherwise be tolerated in a free society.

If this is a dress rehearsal for what the Feds believe are "inevitable attacks" on the U.S., God help us all.

861 posted on 10/22/2002 11:35:57 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Smogger
Re: your comment:Only a LEO or a woman could get through all of those roadblocks on so many different occassions. IMHO.

That assumes that the murderer is going through a roadblock...what about going around it...what about the bicycle theory? Traveling to a predetermined pick up point where the bike is stashed in a van or truck...
862 posted on 10/22/2002 11:37:22 AM PDT by Indiana Jones
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To: fooman
Releasing the info I agreed with. But I don't see how you apply Occam to my hypothesis. Its not really a complete thought, except to say that all the pundits on the tube who keep droning about how "this can't really be a planned terrorist attack because it is ineffective" are dead wrong. It is extremely effective, whether planned or coincidental.

I believe (/tinfoil lined saran-wrap) that this is a Hamas or other Muslim-funded offshoot, at least one of which who has worked with federal agents for a time, and they are playing this by ear. The communication is just a ploy to keep the public feeling "in the dark", and the whole thing is just an example of what waits for us in the future from these types.

863 posted on 10/22/2002 11:38:03 AM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: Indiana Jones
"what about the bicycle theory? "

O.K. but in the bicycle theory, what happens to the weapon?

864 posted on 10/22/2002 11:39:00 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: Cobra Scott
I would tend to doubt that this is a group like Hamas, since they have made a point over the years of avoiding this kind of strike against the U.S.

Not because they are kind-hearted people, but because they raise a lot of cash in this country and don't want to turn off the faucet.

865 posted on 10/22/2002 11:39:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: timestax
Agreed on the scanner thing.
866 posted on 10/22/2002 11:41:01 AM PDT by fooman
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To: MJY1288
Well, It's not Muslim terrorist that's for sure

You sound pretty sure, do you know something that you can share?

867 posted on 10/22/2002 11:41:39 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Rytwyng
Yes, perhaps I should have used other terminology with regard to my ethnic take on this.  As for a *greater* crime to me, I would hope you could understand the dynamics of this.  If this were to turn out to be a white guy shooting minority members, do you think the left would run with it?  I do.  They'd use it to the best of their ability to strengthen the stereotype of the racist white male.  As I said to another poster, I do not want this to turn into something the left can exploit.
868 posted on 10/22/2002 11:41:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: MJY1288
On your say so? Right!
869 posted on 10/22/2002 11:42:21 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Velveeta
I can't share the specifics, But without a doubt it's NOT a muslim terrorist
870 posted on 10/22/2002 11:43:13 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: CFW
Don't forget the Sept. 14 wounding of the store clerk.
871 posted on 10/22/2002 11:43:41 AM PDT by SCR1
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To: Kerberos
Saw the following information in the Richmond-Times Dispatch: http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/vametro/MGB27MC6L7D.html

Note's threat tied to closing of area schools

BY MEREDITH FISCHER AND PAIGE AKIN

TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITERS Oct 22, 2002

A note found by police in the woods near Saturday's sniper shooting indicated a possible threat to local schools, according to several high-ranking school and government officials.

That information prompted Richmond-area school superintendents to reverse an earlier decision and close schools yesterday.

Schools remain closed today in most of the metro Richmond area.

The decision-making process began Sunday afternoon, when school officials held a news conference urging parents to send their children to school.

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"At 4 [p.m.], the decision was that schools were the safest place for students," Chesterfield County School Board Chairman Dr. James Schroeder said. "At 7 [p.m.], obviously the superintendents had received other information recommending that schools be closed."

About 150,000 students from schools in Chesterfield, Goochland, Hanover, Henrico and Powhatan counties and the city of Richmond stayed home yesterday and will again today. A number of private schools were also closed.

"When school administrators feel or sense that there may be harm placed upon children when they are at schools, the best decision is not having them at school," said Chesterfield Administrator Lane B. Ramsey.

An official from another local county confirmed that the note made reference to a possible threat to schools.

After the decision Sunday night, Henrico schools Superintendent Mark A. Edwards told The Times-Dispatch that local schools would be closed Monday because of numerous calls from parents concerned about student safety.

Edwards yesterday acknowledged police information was a factor.

"Our primary rationale for closing schools did have to with the response from parents," Edwards said. "We used the best data available from law enforcementment agencies in making our decision as well."

Frank Morgan, superintendent of Goochland schools, said the county decided to close both days because of the recomenda- tions of the sheriff's department.

Another school official said that police weren't concerned just about possible violence at school buildings, but also that school buses and trailers would be vulnerable to an attack.

"There was a credible threat made in the area that something was going to happen," one high-ranking local government official said yesterday.

Richmond schools Superintendent Deborah Jewell-Sherman said she had not heard about the contents of the note. But another Richmond school source confirmed that the note was the reason area schools were closed yesterday and today.

The closings were prompted by Saturday's shooting outside an Ashland Ponderosa Steak House. The note containing the possible threat to schools was found in the woods nearby.

The victim, a 37-year-old man, was shot once in the abdomen and remains in critical condition at Medical College of Virginia at Virginia Commonwealth University.

The shooting has been positively linked to the Washington-area sniper shootings that have terrorized the region since Oct. 2.

School officials were especially concerned and cautious.

"We went out at first and said schools are the safest place," Schroeder said, "but if police have information saying our schools might be threatened, we have to respect that."

872 posted on 10/22/2002 11:44:03 AM PDT by Heartlander2
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To: MJY1288
I Agree.
873 posted on 10/22/2002 11:44:28 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Smogger
I betcha the shooter is listening... 855 posted on 10/22/02 11:32 AM Pacific by Smogger

Could be,..but most portable scanners are "touchy" and hard to keep operating in a car...but you never know!!

874 posted on 10/22/2002 11:44:33 AM PDT by timestax
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To: MJY1288
Is English a second language for this person?
875 posted on 10/22/2002 11:45:18 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Cobra Scott
I agree that it is terrorism and that they are trying to generate general chaos and hurt our economy. But they do not have the power to turn the people against the gov.

That we are doing all by ourselves. But we all agree that LE are idiots!
876 posted on 10/22/2002 11:45:19 AM PDT by fooman
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To: John Jamieson
My sister works on the Task Force as a crime scene investigator
877 posted on 10/22/2002 11:45:38 AM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
I'm going with the French, Yugolav service man until proven otherwise. Even the French think it mught be him. Incidentally he is reported as being a loner.
878 posted on 10/22/2002 11:45:42 AM PDT by SCR1
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To: Alberta's Child
Okay, point taken...unless a new faucet is opening up in, say, Baghdad? I dunno. Ranting and raving this morning. I need some breakfast.
880 posted on 10/22/2002 11:46:50 AM PDT by Cobra Scott
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